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Old 11-22-17, 07:29 AM
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Bag that Will Take A Jacket / Sweat Top

Can anyone recommend me a fuel tank or frame bag that's big enough to put a jacket or a sweat top in ...... All of the ones I've looked at have been too small with approx 1.5 ltre capacity ... really need something that's about 3 ltre.

The only thing I've found that will take one is a handlebar bag which isn't my preferred option.

EDIT: Think I've just found what I'm looking for ... Has anybody got the Topeak Midloader bag and if so what do you think of it ... I saw a revue that said it only has the one large compartment which is a bit of a shame as they offer 3 and 4.5 and 6 ltre versions, be good to have one of the larger ones with a compartment for puncture kit / tools and a large area for clothing such as jacket.

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Originally Posted by Witterings View Post
Can anyone recommend me a fuel tank or frame bag that's big enough to put a jacket or a sweat top in ...... All of the ones I've looked at have been too small with approx 1.5 ltre capacity ... really need something that's about 3 ltre.

The only thing I've found that will take one is a handlebar bag which isn't my preferred option.

EDIT: Think I've just found what I'm looking for ... couldn't see how to delete post so thought I'd at least edit it.
Please share what you found.
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Old 11-22-17, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
Please share what you found.
Have edited original post again
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that kind of bag is intriguing, but would you choose that instead of a rear rack & trunk? I'm always curious why ppl stay away from the rear rack option (cuz that's just what I grew up using for everything)
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Old 11-22-17, 08:40 AM
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Apidura and Revelate both have very nice, high quality frame bags.
https://www.apidura.com/

Revelate Designs LLC
I own the Apidura small road frame pack which is 3 liters capacity and carry a light jacket, running pants and food/water filter regularly. It is very light weight and well made. Shipping from England was 5 days. Revelate bags are similar in construction and weight.




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Old 11-22-17, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
that kind of bag is intriguing, but would you choose that instead of a rear rack & trunk? I'm always curious why ppl stay away from the rear rack option (cuz that's just what I grew up using for everything)
I prefer a rear rack, and commute with a backpack on the rack, except on my old rackless roadbike, then I wear the backpack.

But I can see that for rough, off-road bike touring, or when frame and fork suspension systems are used it would be advantageous to use a frame bag.

Then there's the issue of weight distribution, which comes down to personal preference. On my MTB-based commuter I have a rack and Wald folding baskets, and have carried heavy loads in both baskets with my usual backpack on the rack which made the handling a little "funny". Some swear by front porteur racks for their backpacks, but, depending on frame and fork geometry, at some point there is a compromise. A traditional touring setup with front and rear panniers may distribute weight more evenly, but compromises ground clearance, and combines the potential handling problems of loading the front fork with weight with placing that weight at the polar ends of the bike.

A frame bag places the weight within the bike's wheelbase, where it would probably feel more stable and natural, although it would raise the center of gravity higher than panniers would. Also, you can conceivably reach into a frame bag while riding, although that may not be the smartest move in traffic or demanding terrain, or if you can't risk dropping something.

All-in-all though I suspect the main reason for using a frame bag along with a carradice-style bag slung-high off the rear of the saddle, along with a front porteur rack or front handlebar bag is to keep the wheels as free and clear as possible, while also keeping the bags further away from potential mud and dirt, while also allowing for frame and fork suspension travel.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Apidura and Revelate both have very nice, high quality frame bags.
https://www.apidura.com/

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Very nice - bookmarked.

Now I just need to grow a few inches taller so I can have a frame that's large enough for a frame bag AND two water bottles...
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
that kind of bag is intriguing, but would you choose that instead of a rear rack & trunk? I'm always curious why ppl stay away from the rear rack option (cuz that's just what I grew up using for everything)
Really just to keep the weight down, it'll only have a top of some sorts in there and maybe the sleeves off of a lightweight convertible jacket which if it's warm enough to take them off I'll only be carrying a t-shirt in the bag so a rack would seem a little bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

It's mainly because we end up going for a quick beer after our ride and I want to be able to take something that isn't so cycle specific to wear in the pub.
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Bike bags are an interesting topic.

As you have discovered, compact looks cool but won't hold much. Big will carry most of what you want but can look a little goofy. Un - no matter how big the bag, you'll never have trouble filling it up. The bigger the bag, the more stuff you'll find you need to carry. I'd be cautious of mid frame bags because you have all sorts of clearance issues to consider: foot circle, front derailleur movement, water bottles, etc. Not saying they're bad, just be careful. There's a reason why you don't see more of them being used.

As a general rule, my advice is to work on the opposite end of the equation. Carry less "stuff" with you and look for jackets that fold or roll compactly into the least volume.
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Old 11-23-17, 07:28 AM
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look at banjobrothers there is a huge variety and good price
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Old 11-23-17, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
As a general rule, my advice is to work on the opposite end of the equation. Carry less "stuff" with you and look for jackets that fold or roll compactly into the least volume.
I did agree with this but even something small needs a reasonable size bag, I took my cycle jacket which very small / thin and it went in this but it wasn't like I had a ton of room spare although I did manage to squeeze a slight fuller jersey in and it gave me an indication of teh capacity I needed

Ridge Handlebar Bag

Tried them both in one of these and not a cats chance of squeezing either in
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look at banjobrothers there is a huge variety and good price
Had a look at those, they look very reasonable but even the medium is 15.5" long, I measured up my bike and will be borderline if I can get the medium Topeak Midloader on which is 14.8", the only other that seemed to have the 3 ltre capacity and would fit was this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Roswheel-Tr...heel+frame+bag

Whilst there weren't any reviews on this specific bag there were quite a few not so good reviews on the durability of their smaller pannier / phone bags for the front of the bike which kind of put me off.
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Old 11-23-17, 11:29 AM
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I recommend you look into a custom-made frame bag. I got this from Rogue Panda and here the related thread of mine with pics.

Advantage:
- uses full space (put in tube, tools, hydration bladder). Every little cranny and nook is utilized.
- looks better than a standard bag that leaves gaps around (I know, subjective)
- actually was cheaper than some of the brand name non-custom bags
- lower center of gravity and no problem with weight on left or right as you have with panniers
- not mutually exclusive to panniers or saddle bag in case you need more space. I have this bag for longer tours
- lighter than a rack and panniers

Someone above mentioned possible clearance issue with knees, this is not the case with this bag. Even when I overfill it it doesn't interfer.

Someone mentioned handlebar bags. I tried that (actually I tried every type of bag before I got rid of all of them after I had my frame bag). Handlebar bags are the worst for weight distribution and may limit your headlights.

Someone mentioned the need to have space for bottles. This also had mislead me originally to use frame bags that leave space for bottles. and using a hydration pack uses the space much better and I can use a 3l bag easily and have the tube attached to the handelbar so I can drink while riding. much better solution than bottles.

As you can see in my thread, once you have that frame bag on one bike, you want it on all of them. Just so neat and useful. Quality of the rogue Panda bag also is great. my only regret is to fiddle with all the other odd bags first (money and time I'll never get back)
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Originally Posted by wipekitty View Post
Very nice - bookmarked.

Now I just need to grow a few inches taller so I can have a frame that's large enough for a frame bag AND two water bottles...
Not shown in the photo above are Arundel "Side-Loader" cages normally mounted when the frame bag is used. They mount lower than standard cages and bottles enter at an angle from the side allowing bottles to be carried with the frame bag mounted. Other companies make similar cages.






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put your stuff in a Stuff sack and tie it behind your saddle.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Apidura and Revelate both have very nice, high quality frame bags.
https://www.apidura.com/

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I own the Apidura small road frame pack which is 3 liters capacity and carry a light jacket, running pants and food/water filter regularly. It is very light weight and well made. Shipping from England was 5 days. Revelate bags are similar in construction and weight.




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Meant to ask earlier .. forget the bag what tf is that bike / tyres ... my next purchase will probably be a gravel / adventure bike
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Originally Posted by Witterings View Post
Meant to ask earlier .. forget the bag what tf is that bike / tyres ... my next purchase will probably be a gravel / adventure bike
Niner RLT 9 RDO.

Ultegra Di2 compact road drivetrain, American Classic 29" RACE wheels. Tires pictured are Schwalbe G-One Allaround but I've since switched to Panaracer Gravelking SK.
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