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Old 07-09-18, 08:06 PM
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Came across this thread just now, searching for info on Selle Anatomica weight limits. I have an NSX model purchased in 2014 when weight limit was up to 250. I just today snapped the rails so was wondering if the change in weight spec last year was about rail strength (I weigh 210). I gather from this thread, weight spec is about the leather not the rails, is that correct?
My leather is in good shape so am considering paying SA $60 to replace my frame.
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Old 07-10-18, 12:27 AM
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I'd say buy the (Brooks) saddle that fits your needs AFTER the SA expires.

If you experienced numbnes in the nether parts, get an Imperial. If all is well, get a B17. I am 260# and currently ride a Flyer (B17 with springs). Before I had a B17, which I relegated to my hybrid. Honestly, I can't sense any 'give' from the Flyer's stiff springs. I am happy with either.
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Seriously?
In your own words you ‘fell in love’ because it ‘fits and feels great’
That is all you can ask for and end of story.
Stop being ridiculous and overthinking it.
Saddles do not catastrophically fail lol.
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh View Post
Was 220lbs when I first mounted it on my touring bike. I was 185 lbs when I tossed it. No significant or prolonged wet weather use. I covered it with a waterproof stuff sack at night when camping out (rain or not). For me I bought it because I wanted to be different, go against the grain and not buy a B17 like everyone else. My experience with the SA taught me that there is a good reason the B17 is so popular. I do absolutely love it, enough so that I bought a second for my hybrid as well.

Enjoy it until you can't. That's what I did. It wasn't uncomfortable, but it didn't last long enough for me to justify the cost.
Do you have the X or the H?
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Do you have the X or the H?
I had the X. I had to keep tightening it until I couldn't anymore. Now I use the B17 and have no regrets.
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I had the X. I had to keep tightening it until I couldn't anymore. Now I use the B17 and have no regrets.
I have had the NSX (no slit) for 4 years and many thousands of miles. The leather is fine and I have needed to employ the tensioning bolt rarely, using up only a 1/4 inch or so. Below is hat SA sent to me about downgrading weight spec and strength of their new rails in response to my questions about whether replacing my broken rails made sense for somone my size (210). They seem to be using the same leather they always have on the X but changed the weight spec becuase the H's leather was thicker. I infer they were getting complaints about rapid wear of the X from heavier riders, but I have not had an issue with the NSX. I also infer from fact that they are now heat treating rails, they were having breakage issues due to a rail design that accomodates a lot of fore/aft adjustment, this was my problem. Ironically, the fore/aft adjustment was partly why I chose SA over Brooks originally. I do have Brooks Pros on two other bikes but felt for this particular bike I would need more adjustment -- turns out I dont but tne SA leather is very comfy and still in good shape so I am consdering the repair.

-----------------Begin note from SA------

Thanks for reaching out to us and your support of Selle Anatomica.

Our weight recommendation on our saddles has changed since we introduced the H Leather Series. The H leather is a stiffer, more rugged platform that some of our riders were asking for. Since its debut, we made the decision to adjust rider weight recommendations to accommodate this new product into our lineup. Furthermore, in late 2017 we introduced into production on all Series 1 saddles heat treated 4130 chromoly rails to replace our standard non heat treated 4130 rail sets. Your NSX1 saddle would have had our older 4130 rail configuration.

It would be our recommendation that you order a Series 1 NewFrame set given you say the leather is still in good shape. The new heat treated rails are very strong and we have yet to have a rail failure since introducing them.

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B-17 or B-17 Imperial?
B-17 with the copper rivets.
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Saddleweight is a guide you need some common sense to use, handlebar height has a huge impact on saddle comfort.

i know you guys on here asume we're all roadies in lycra but thats never the case, and you need to consider riding style and position. Even drop bars vary enough to require differernt saddles so start learning to read between the lines.
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So does force. At 210 (I wish I weighed only 210, BTW), if you hit a pothole or bump the wrong way, I expect you may exert a lot more than 210 lbs of force on the rails.
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I have had an excellent comfort experience with my (3) current SA’s, total comfort on long rides, and I have zero break in.

I ordered this honey/silver H2 today which will soon be mounted on my new to me Merlin Road Ti along with a honey colored bar tape for the finish.




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Honey color saddle and matching bar tape FTW!

I have a honey colored Brooks Flyer with matching Brooks tape on my olive colored Novara Randonee and I love it!
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

If you find a saddle which is comfortable, durable, and is a good value, stock up!

Marketing requires constant changes in style and features, even if they are pointless, and many "improvements" actually make things worse.
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Old 07-19-18, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GerryinHouston View Post
Honey color saddle and matching bar tape FTW!

I have a honey colored Brooks Flyer with matching Brooks tape on my olive colored Novara Randonee and I love it!
My silver/vintage H2 arrived today, honey bar tape hopefully arrives Monday.




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My silver/vintage H2 arrived today, honey bar tape hopefully arrives Monday.




SA Silve/Vintage
Lovely combination with the color of the frame!
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Originally Posted by GerryinHouston View Post
Lovely combination with the color of the frame!
Thanks Gerry, much appreciate sir!

White SA on my vintage Peloton....and black SA’s on our Trek 920 urban assault bikes

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And this seems to be the trend with the Selle Anatomica. I read threads where one gets years of service with little-no problems and others get "used up" in short order. Throw in a clydesdale or borderline clydesdale and the problems magnify... or maybe not. There will always be those who blame any and everything on user error and others who abuse gear then blame failure onthe gear.
My two cents: If I tension the SA to the point where it feels good to me, the leather will stretch out in a few rides to a point where the sag doesn't feel good (again, to me). If I just leave it like that, it won't continue to sag - it stabilizes. But if I want the comfort back, I turn the bolt one half turn. The cycle repeats and in a few years the bolt is backed all the way out and the saddle is shot (for me).

For those who actually like the level of sag that the SA "stabilizes" to, then all is well and it should last a very long time.

My butt just wont permit that.
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I'm at something like 4,000 miles on my "new" H2, the only thing I did was put about 2 turns of slack into it when I got it. It was too tight from SA. So I have maybe... 2 threads showing at the front. Untouched since. I think I'm probably right at the bottom end of the weight for the H series leather-- I'm not stretching it at all, it seems.

If there's a drawback to the C-series (other than the pricetag) I've yet to find it.

My bent-railed X (pre-X1) is still in service. The bend just stretched the cover, so I took something like 6 turns out of the bolt, and it has ~800 miles on it "post bend."
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I'm at something like 4,000 miles on my "new" H2, the only thing I did was put about 2 turns of slack into it when I got it. It was too tight from SA. So I have maybe... 2 threads showing at the front. Untouched since. I think I'm probably right at the bottom end of the weight for the H series leather-- I'm not stretching it at all, it seems.

If there's a drawback to the C-series (other than the pricetag) I've yet to find it.

My bent-railed X (pre-X1) is still in service. The bend just stretched the cover, so I took something like 6 turns out of the bolt, and it has ~800 miles on it "post bend."
Owning a C series is on my short list
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So does force. At 210 (I wish I weighed only 210, BTW), if you hit a pothole or bump the wrong way, I expect you may exert a lot more than 210 lbs of force on the rails.
Steel rails don't break from a single impact; they might bend given steel's flexibility, but not break. They break from fatigue over time from fexing back and forth under weight; and the length of the SA rails would subject them to more flex/more rapid fatigue than would be case with shorter rails like the Brooks design. That SA now uses heat treating to strengthen their rails suggests they recognize that regular cromoly was not durable enough for their rail design irrspective of rider weight.


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I'm at something like 4,000 miles on my "new" H2, the only thing I did was put about 2 turns of slack into it when I got it. It was too tight from SA. So I have maybe... 2 threads showing at the front. Untouched since. I think I'm probably right at the bottom end of the weight for the H series leather-- I'm not stretching it at all, it seems.

If there's a drawback to the C-series (other than the pricetag) I've yet to find it.

My bent-railed X (pre-X1) is still in service. The bend just stretched the cover, so I took something like 6 turns out of the bolt, and it has ~800 miles on it "post bend."
Before my rails broke, I was 4 years and many thousands of miles into my NSX (no slit) with only minimal use of of the tension bolt, and the last time I used the bolt was quite a ways back so the leather seems to have stopped stretiching (see pics).

Since my leather is in such good hape, I decided to ship it back to SA and have them put it on their new heat treated rails. $55.00 including shipping with the 15% off TDF2018 discount SA is currently offering.
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I have several X's, several pre-X's, one NSX, and just received an H. My weight was 180 when I bought my first pre-X around 2007, and they said nothing about 130 mm being the sit-bone width. They clearly said (in more-extensive literature than they give today) that sit-bone width does not matter to them. Adjusting the center screw, as part of settings for height, fore-aft, tilt and yaw offset, were intended for comfort, as stated.

One of the pre-X's is stretched out almost completely, but I can't say I didn't over-tighten it; I also haven't paid attention to not tightening it while riding. I was also told by one of the regulars that in the past few years they have gotten better leather - it should reduce the common incidence of saddles turning triangular. This is one of my bud's pet peeves.

Anyway the H has much thicker under-leather than the earliest pre-X I have (Happy Bottom card signed 2007). I haven't decided what to put it on. I recently finished rebuilding my two Mondonicos, and am enjoying them with their gel-padded Toupes.

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Shout out to Selle Anatomica Customer Service



I shipped my saddle back to SA in California to have the leather put on a new frame. It arrived there last Friday. By Monday it had been repared and shipped back. It arrived today in Virginia. Repair plus shipping across the country (I live in Virginia) in less than a week. Pretty impressive turnaround.
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I shipped my saddle back to SA in California to have the leather put on a new frame. It arrived there last Friday. By Monday it had been repared and shipped back. It arrived today in Virginia. Repair plus shipping across the country (I live in Virginia) in less than a week. Pretty impressive turnaround.
They ship fast, most of my recent saddle purchases have arrived within 3-4 days. I have had nothing but outstanding customer service from Selle Anatomica.


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