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Old 12-03-17, 12:16 PM   #1
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Wheel Tire Rim suggestions on Domane Build

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What a great resource all of you are. Title says it all. Building a Domane on their SLR disc frame. Settled in on want I want on most of the bike but am overwelmed and ignorant on wheels tires and rim sizes.I do like a wider tire and am not opposed to going with a 32mm that Trek uses on this bike unless better options are suggested. Want a wheel that will accomodate size tire up to 32mm (19mm inner rim?). I'm 65 and will not ever race so comfort is key with a few centuries planned for 2018. However I do like to go fast and challenge myself and want to keep the bike light and fast (grin). Good overall compromise? Budget around 2k but willing to spend more/less if good value for $$$. Suggestion greatly appreciated from all.
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This link has a decent selection of quality rims. On my own bike, I have Velocity A23 rims, 23mm wide with a 28 mm tire on the front and a 29.5 mm tire on the back. Alloy Rim Roundup - Fairwheel Bikes Blog
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Thanks. Looks like they are out of stock on everything!
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This link has a decent selection of quality rims. On my own bike, I have Velocity A23 rims, 23mm wide with a 28 mm tire on the front and a 29.5 mm tire on the back. Alloy Rim Roundup - Fairwheel Bikes Blog
I wonder when they'll get around to doing a new shootout. The Pacenti Forza is sounding like a great replacement for their earlier SL23, which I liked. Next time I build a rear 700C wheel, it will be with one of those offset Forzas.
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whichever you choose, make sure that it's a tubeless ready rim and make sure that it has decent hubs
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I would do a custom build with HED Belgium rims and White Industries disc hubs.

https://sugarwheelworks.com/handbuil...uild-package-/
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I bought a Domane SL6 Disc back in March and I'm loving it. I'm 60, not a racer, but do try to improve my speed, do lots of long rides, lots of hills. One reason I paid more the SL6 vs. the SL5 was to get the Vision 40 wheels. I've now got about 2400 miles on and they are great from all aspects. I weigh 230 lbs, was worried about reliability - not an issue so far at all, rock solid.

It came with the 32MM Bontrager R2 tires. I wanted 32mm, I like some tread on my tires but kept these on until this weekend. They have worked fine, though I haven't done much wet road riding with them. I just replaced them with Bontrager AW3, mainly to put use the slick R2s over the winter on another bike that goes on an indoor trainer for the winter - the R2s still had plenty of miles on them.
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I would give Rob a call, and have a discussion with him. PSImet on this forum. https://www.psimet.com/

He was a big help to me when I was considering new wheel, and he sure gets good reviews.
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Hi Ald1

I have a Domane SLR 6 Disc and am currently running 30mm Challenge Strada Bianca on Bontrager Paradigm Elite wheels. I love these wheels and with the disc set up I have gone all the way up to 35mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs. In the summer I use 28mm tires.
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I've been riding some 32mm Compass Stampede Pass tires in their extralight variant for the last 500 miles or so, and they are outstanding. That variant is kind of expensive, but the ride is so plush. The tires are lighter than a Continental Grand Prix 4000II in 28mm. They use what Compass claims to be a casing that ordinarily is used only on good tubulars.

I have a set of rims for a build I'm doing (still waiting for the hubs and spokes to arrive) that are 28mm wide and 46mm deep, carbon rims from Light-Bicycle in China. They are about the same weight as a Stan's Grail rim, but since they are deeper, spoke length will be shorter, so overall build weight with the same hubs and spoke count would be a bit lower than the Grail, while also providing a more aerodynamic transition from a wide tire to the rim, better shape to a wide tire thanks to the wider inside rim width, and so forth. The cost was something like $440 shipped for the pair. I haven't built them yet so I have no experience with them yet, but I've held them in my hands and they are nice and round, straight, and they look fantastic. Light-bicycle has also been around for a few years and I've seen good reviews on their rims on other forums, so I thought it worth the gamble. You might consider it.
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Old 12-06-17, 01:52 PM   #11
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I built a 2017 SL Disc Domane size 58 this past winter with the following components & 2 wheelsets:


Ultegra Di2 11sp, R785/RS805 Shifter/calipers, 6870 Derailleurs, R600 Remote Shifter
Ultegra 50/34 crank, 11/32 cog
Boyd Altamont Lite alloy wheels w/White CLD hubs
Industry 9 AR25 alloy wheelset w/I9 CLD hubs
30mm & 35mm Schwalbe S-1 (now G-1 Speed) & 35mm Schwalbe G-1 tubeless tires
3T Ergonova Team Carbon bars, Zip100mm alloy stem, Fizik tape


Industry 9 wheels are bit lighter & wider than the Boyds and are IMHO better. Most importantly the White CLD hubs on the Boyd's require the large Shimano SM-HB20 lock ring rather than the RT98 ring that come with CLD rotors. On Domane frames the large CLD lock ring will jam on the front fork. White sent me a modified axle to work around this problem but it requires me to remove the axle to install the rotor. Hopefully White will resolve this issue. So unless Trek has changed their Domane front fork, be carful about buying any CLD wheelset that requires the large Shimano SM-HB20 lock ring.


The 30mm G-1 Speed are a great road tire & on the I9 wheels they widen to 32mm giving a smooth fast ride. The 35mm G-1 are used for off road adventures and are a great gravel tire although there have been issues with bead elongation (I had to return 1). They setup tubeless very easily and will hold pressure quite well without sealant.


Also if you haven't decided yet, defiantly go Di2, its great and the Domane facilitates its installation with the battery in the down tube rather that in the seat post.


Although I like the 3T Ergonova Team Carbon bars they were very difficult to route brake lines thru, can't see how you could run regular shift cables + brake lines thru them.

I have about 1000 hours on the bike and love it except for disc brake squeal. I've tried everything but it seems like if I haven't ridden in a few days they require to be burned in again, lucky I'm in a hilly area. Plus the frame amplifies the squeal from the rear brake thru the front fork, crazy. Guess I'll try new pads next.
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I built a 2017 SL Disc Domane size 58 this past winter with the following components & 2 wheelsets:



I have about 1000 hours on the bike and love it except for disc brake squeal. I've tried everything but it seems like if I haven't ridden in a few days they require to be burned in again, lucky I'm in a hilly area. Plus the frame amplifies the squeal from the rear brake thru the front fork, crazy. Guess I'll try new pads next.
I had front brake squeal on my Boone. "Squeal" doesn't do it justice. More like a banshee screeching. It was so bad that I found myself subconsciously avoiding using the front brake for the first 100 miles. Swapped out pads, replaced the $25 stock brake disc with the same part, no joy. Guys at the Trek store were stumped. On a whim, I upgraded to XTR/Ultegra discs and the squeal hasn't returned in 2,000 miles.

And another vote for the Schwalbe G-One Speed and the G-One Allround 35 mm. I use both.
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I had front brake squeal on my Boone. "Squeal" doesn't do it justice. More like a banshee screeching. It was so bad that I found myself subconsciously avoiding using the front brake for the first 100 miles. Swapped out pads, replaced the $25 stock brake disc with the same part, no joy. Guys at the Trek store were stumped. On a whim, I upgraded to XTR/Ultegra discs and the squeal hasn't returned in 2,000 miles.

And another vote for the Schwalbe G-One Speed and the G-One Allround 35 mm. I use both.




Thanks for the tip, I agree with the "banshee screech" analogy but I'm already running XTR99 rotors. However I have 140mm in the rear which makes much more noise than the front 160's. Maybe the caliper spacer acts as a noise/vibration insulator so I might try going to 160 in the rear that requires a spacer. On the positive side, I can easily scare squirrels from crossing my tracks.
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Old 12-09-17, 07:14 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the great input! Keep 'em coming. Frame coming next week. Going Sram.......
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I forgot about the front iso-flex-thingy began to creak after about 100hrs. Seems that when it was assembled it wasn't properly greased, another SLR owner also noted this issue. It's not bad & I'm deferring it to winter maintenance. So other than creaking headset & squealing brakes its been great and IMHO looks way better than the Spec. sprung headset frames.
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I would do a custom build with HED Belgium rims and White Industries disc hubs.

https://sugarwheelworks.com/handbuil...uild-package-/
Good rims .... I have a set of HED Belgium Plus rims, laced to Chris King R45 hubs (the ones with ceramic bearings) and Sapim CX Ray spokes ....

I can use normal clinchers or tubeless, and at the moment, I'm using 2017 IRC Formula Pro RBCC tubeless road tyres.... cost me a lot of money, but I will use this wheelset on other bikes when I upgrade ...

One downside is that I have to service the hubs twice a year and that costs 45 each time for the pair (90 per year) ... but saying that, it's not too bad as I cycle over 10 000 Km per year
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I've been riding some 32mm Compass Stampede Pass tires in their extralight variant
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Riding Compass tires is actually a weird experience. Very weird. You see the road imperfections coming, you know you just rolled over them, but you never felt them.

And they roll......and roll.......and roll......and just keep rolling. I bought a pair in 2016 and still shake my head in disbelief on every ride.
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Riding Compass tires is actually a weird experience. Very weird. You see the road imperfections coming, you know you just rolled over them, but you never felt them.

And they roll......and roll.......and roll......and just keep rolling. I bought a pair in 2016 and still shake my head in disbelief on every ride.
Yeah, it is very wierd. I've said before that I estimate I feel maybe 30% of the vibration on the new bike with these 32mm Compass tires that I felt on my previous bike. Unfortunately I don't know exactly how to attribute the difference because it was a move from a fairly stiff aluminum frame to a titanium frame at the same time I got the room to use those 32mm Compass tires, but I'm willing to believe the tires account for more of the difference in road feel than the titanium. Stretches of road that were so bad that I had to slow down through them on my previous bike I can now ride through at full speed. I still feel something, it's just greatly muted compared to before. And it's not like I was riding really hard tires on my old bike. This improvement is compared to a 28mm Grand Prix 4000IIs in the rear and a 25mm Grand Prix 4000IIs in front, which inflated to 30.5mm and 28mm, repectively.

If you've ever switched from a tire like a Gatorskin to the Grand Prix 4000 and seen a big improvement, then imagine that same amount of improvement again going to the Compass tires, and then imagine a little more.
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November makes some great wheels. I don’t have any Disc wheels but my rim brake sets are great.
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