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Ride_Fast 12-12-17 02:11 PM

Handelbar weight
 
I recently got two mtb handlebars, Race Face "Ride" and "Deus XC" low riser. The "Ride" is much heavier than the "Deus XC". My question is are heavier handlebars more comfortable than lighter ones? What are the pros and cons?

fietsbob 12-12-17 03:02 PM

Lowest eight is such a Shallow criteria...



Depends on the material used to form the bar... a carbon fiber MTB bar in your budget?

I have Ergon Grips the GR series, paddle style ones, for my comfortable grips on my bike with a relatively straight bar..
... it, the bar, has some rearward sweep..


now wait for those who bought both those bars that you mentioned to speak of their findings... It may take a while?






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Ride_Fast 12-12-17 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20048836)
Lowest eight is such a Shallow criteria...

Depends on the material used to form the bar... a carbon fiber MTB bar in your budget?

it's more about performance and comfort.

Both are Alloy, but the "Ride" is heavier. I was just wondering what people thought of weight and comfort.

fietsbob 12-12-17 04:48 PM

same alloy? there are several higher strength 7075-t6 heat treated camn be thinner tube wall

Cheaper alloys use more to be adequately strong... works the same with various steel alloys and products made from them ..

go for titanium ..

got two? use both, form your own opinion ...

Ride_Fast 12-12-17 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20049059)
same alloy? there are several higher strength 7075-t6 heat treated camn be thinner tube wall

Cheaper alloys use more to be adequately strong... works the same with various steel alloys and products made from them ..

go for titanium ..

got two? use both, form your own opinion ...

To be honest, I bought both of them online so there wasn't any information on the type of alloy. I've owned stuff from race face in the past so I didn't think they would be cheap.

I'm going to use one on a single speed track bike, the other will go on a mountain bike, so I will only be using one that's why I ask.

Altimis 12-12-17 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ride_Fast (Post 20049002)
it's more about performance and comfort.

Both are Alloy, but the "Ride" is heavier. I was just wondering what people thought of weight and comfort.

If you care about only "weight".

Its meaningless...

Lighter, is just more expensive, simple as that. Durability is questionable, most of times, lighter equal to less material and less durability, depends on what material they use and how they make it. AND what and how you use it for.

Comforts? I dunno, there no such buy X give you X result, its maybe Y Z $ % ^ & * @

Comforts is not about weight alone, its about how it feels, how you handle it, too deep? too shallow? its just right? what grips you using?

cyccommute 12-13-17 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Ride_Fast (Post 20049083)
To be honest, I bought both of them online so there wasn't any information on the type of alloy. I've owned stuff from race face in the past so I didn't think they would be cheap.

I'm going to use one on a single speed track bike, the other will go on a mountain bike, so I will only be using one that's why I ask.

The Deus is a 7075 alloy while the Ride is a 6061 alloy. You can read about the differences here. Bottom line, 7075 aluminum is stronger. For the handlebar, this translates into less material needed for the same strength. The difference is weight is about 100g which really isn't all that much. The Deus will provide a little bit livelier ride over the Ride.

JonathanGennick 12-13-17 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Ride_Fast (Post 20048733)
I recently got two mtb handlebars, Race Face "Ride" and "Deus XC" low riser. The "Ride" is much heavier than the "Deus XC". My question is are heavier handlebars more comfortable than lighter ones? What are the pros and cons?

Price point. Ride is Race Face's value line, and it's easier and less expensive to make heavier bars. Deus was probably positioned higher and sold for more, and probably is made using a more expensive alloy.

Reynolds 12-13-17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20050093)
I was shocked when I received the aluminum hbar, to replace my steel hbar.
The aluminum is much heavier!

Not surprising - high end steel can be lighter than low end aluminum.

Iride01 12-13-17 09:57 AM

As many have said, it's not just the material in general. Aluminum, Steel, Carbon. It's also about the particular alloy whether steel or aluminum, I presume Carbon has different blends too, but don't know for certain. As well, tempering of the materials, how the particular manufacturer handles, shapes and otherwise manufactures the part whether handlebars, frame or what have you.

So you just can't put a one size fit's all generalizations that heavier is better or worse.

Ironfish653 12-13-17 10:21 AM

As a sweeping generalization, high end aluminum bars will be lighter, and stiffer, due to the choice of alloys. This will result in a little more 'spring' or 'snappy' feeling, kinda like carbon, but at (usually) less cost.
The lighter, stiffer aluminum does give up a little in durability; some of the sub-150g XC bars from back in the day were notoriously brittle, and needed to be inspected after hard hits, and replaced every couple of seasons.



Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20050093)
I was shocked when I received the aluminum hbar, to replace my steel hbar.
The aluminum is much heavier!

All depends on the bars in question. The Ritchey Logic Rizer that replaced my crash-fractured Scott AT-1 is more than double the weight, 360g vs 141g. The Scott had a 2mm-thick clamp section, butted down to 0.8mm under the grips, while the Ritchey mics out at 4.1mm under the grips. While the Scott felt like a high-end kitchen knife, the Ritchey feels like a crowbar. I could probably tear down my garage door with it :crash:

pickettt 12-13-17 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ironfish653 (Post 20050243)
some of the sub-150g XC bars from back in the day were notoriously brittle, and needed to be inspected after hard hits, and replaced every couple of seasons.


Though not aluminum or carbon, I raced XC hard on a Bontarger Titec 118 for years, and years with zero problems. I think part of it is to learn to ride the bike, and not just run into everything in your path.

Ironfish653 12-13-17 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by pickettt (Post 20050377)
I think part of it is to learn to ride the bike, and not just run into everything in your path.

We liked our XC with a little East-Coast trials thrown in. If you hit something that hard, it usually meant that you weren't on the path anymore. :D If you were lucky, you weren't on the bike anymore, either.

My AT-1 made it 15 years, until I clipped a curb with the wheel on the kids' trailer, and I crossed up and dumped it in the street. Split the bar all the way up to the brake lever clamp.

pickettt 12-13-17 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ironfish653 (Post 20050587)
We liked our XC with a little East-Coast trials thrown in. If you hit something that hard, it usually meant that you weren't on the path anymore. :D If you were lucky, you weren't on the bike anymore, either.

My AT-1 made it 15 years, until I clipped a curb with the wheel on the kids' trailer, and I crossed up and dumped it in the street. Split the bar all the way up to the brake lever clamp.

No material would stand up to that.

Ride_Fast 12-15-17 12:28 PM

Thank you everyone for being helpful. I'll be using the Deus.


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