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hydration starts early in the morning when you wake up! you should break fast with a large glass of water. and drink water throughout the day. If my Rides are under 2 hours I might have 1/2 bottle of water. hydration is a lifestyle. not a cycle thing.
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As an alternative to Pedialite, I would try another product that was recommended to me by my physician.
Ultima Replenisher: Ultima Replenisher Ingredients - See what we're made of.
According to that web site it has: potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium.
Ultima Replenisher: Ultima Replenisher Ingredients - See what we're made of.
According to that web site it has: potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium.
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but not white sugar
sugar is bad.
sugar depletes the body of B-Vitamins, Potassium, Magnesium, Zinc and manganese.
Sugar raises CO2 in the blood
sugar causes an increased insulin production by the pancreas (zinc manganese)
sugar required fluids to digest it.
Men have survived for thousands of years without sugar drinks.
the sugar a body requires is the sugars a body makes, not the sugars someone ingest.
sugar is bad.
sugar depletes the body of B-Vitamins, Potassium, Magnesium, Zinc and manganese.
Sugar raises CO2 in the blood
sugar causes an increased insulin production by the pancreas (zinc manganese)
sugar required fluids to digest it.
Men have survived for thousands of years without sugar drinks.
the sugar a body requires is the sugars a body makes, not the sugars someone ingest.
All things in moderation. Even fast food. No problem.
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As an alternative to Pedialite, I would try another product that was recommended to me by my physician.
Ultima Replenisher: Ultima Replenisher Ingredients - See what we're made of.
According to that web site it has: potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium.
Ultima Replenisher: Ultima Replenisher Ingredients - See what we're made of.
According to that web site it has: potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium.
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According the commercial for Gatorade it was designed with the foozball players in mind, out in the Florida sun and heat. They found that drinking the flavored salt water helped them practice stronger, longer. I don't know about "peer" review but apparently there was some manner of science to it.
I have heard people mention putting salts of various type in their water bottle, in small amounts. Personally I get ill when I drink things of this type. My tummy no likey.
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They used to have salt-tablet dispensers next to the drinking fountains in factories where it got really hot. I'd do one or two every couple hours, but I honestly have no idea if they did any good. You need a certain amount of potassium and sodium available for the ion channels in your cells. Those are critical.
Gatorade has these covered with sodium citrate and monopotassium phosphate; they throw in some sugar for a feel-good energy boost.
Adequate plain water and sensible food will have you covered.
Gatorade has these covered with sodium citrate and monopotassium phosphate; they throw in some sugar for a feel-good energy boost.
Adequate plain water and sensible food will have you covered.
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According the commercial for Gatorade it was designed with the foozball players in mind, out in the Florida sun and heat. They found that drinking the flavored salt water helped them practice stronger, longer. I don't know about "peer" review but apparently there was some manner of science to it.
I have heard people mention putting salts of various type in their water bottle, in small amounts. Personally I get ill when I drink things of this type. My tummy no likey.
I have heard people mention putting salts of various type in their water bottle, in small amounts. Personally I get ill when I drink things of this type. My tummy no likey.
there's been a lot of studies. Not sure about a definitive advantage over water, except I think that Gatorade works because it tastes better than water and you drink more of it.
My grad student buddy Rock used to have summer jobs hanging up tobacco in hot humid barns South Carolina. So you're lifting really heavy, wet tobacco plants in 95 degree heat (110 in the barn) and 95% humidity, for hours at a time. The farmer was a savvy guy. At the end of each interval (that is, just before lunch and just before knocking off for the day), he'd roll out ice-filled coolers filled with watermelons. Rock said that was about the best thing he's ever had.
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There are more than 1 version of electrolytes that exist. Like vitamin D...
Bath salts in the ole jug, I bet makes for an interesting cycling experience...
Bath salts in the ole jug, I bet makes for an interesting cycling experience...
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Which might be helpful for someone who is deficient in potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium, which would be very rare. Otherwise, it's just a pointless conglomeration of chemicals whose main function is to sell Ultima Replenisher to people who don't know better.
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What I do know on the subject is that is is popular among some troops who train vigorously in some potentially highly dehydrating conditions. That it sells as well as it does in PX/BX stores surprised me as they generally have any number of isotonics and other hydration options at hand from water to Gatorade, and most of the other ones we would be familiar with in civilian U.S. stores. I'm fairly certain the high sales are not just because of any massive jump in birthrate in that population.
I would imagine they like to have it on hand to stave off the effects of possible dehydration (whether back in barracks or in their bags), which I think is the main purpose of the product.
Some interesting info here:
https://www.hhicera.com/military/newsletter_vol8_3.pdf
P.S. I don't work for Cera or Pedialyte, but am somewhat familiar with consumables in the military environment.
As for me personally, I used Skratchlabs powder with water in one bottle and plain water in the other. I used to use NUUN, but I didn't see sodium among the ingredients, whereas with Skratchlabs, I did. I sweat out salt like a beast (is that a clyde thing? i don't know), so I figured what goes out I might consider putting back in.
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Vitamin H is a supplement that assists with the conversion of taking carbohydrates & turning them into a glucose form.
The vit D reference was my comparability to the different forms of something often grouped under a common-colloquial name.
The vit D reference was my comparability to the different forms of something often grouped under a common-colloquial name.
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Pedialyte has its fans among adults. Managers and clerks at a couple of nearby shops say in summertime they have to stock up on extra generic pedialyte for the construction and road crew laborers.
That surprised me because I would have assumed the higher concentration of sodium and potassium might cause indigestion and diarrhea. If you've worked construction or pretty much any heavy labor industrial job, you know you don't get much time for potty breaks, and some union job breaks are heavily regulated. When I moved freight on a union loading dock we got two 15 minute rest/bathroom breaks and one 30 minute meal break per shift. No variations in time. If you needed a bathroom break off that schedule you'd better be damned quick and well ahead of schedule on your loading/unloading. No extra drink breaks either, and they frowned on carrying your own water on the dock although some guys wore belt canteens.
So either the higher concentration of electrolytes in pedialyte isn't too bad, or you get used to it. Maybe the guys who bought it diluted it with water, I dunno.
Some folks might be able to get by on plain water and a good diet, but I can't. Oddly, my bouts with stomach cramps, muscle cramps and other dehydration symptoms have never occurred during the hottest weather, even though I've bicycled up to 65 miles in Texas summer (and a local cycling friend rides full centuries once or twice a week year 'round, regardless of heat). My bouts with cramps have occurred on relatively cool overcast days. My best guess is I'm more cautious in summer but let my guard down on days in the 60s-70s and forget to drink enough.
Last bout with stomach cramps so severe I couldn't keep riding was last June on an overcast, cool morning after pushing pretty hard for an hour with hill climbing repeats. I carried some NUUN tablets but didn't premix them in my water bottles. I rested under a bridge, drank a bottle with the NUUN added, popped a glucose tablet and was fine within 30 minutes and finished another 20-30 miles on flatter, easier terrain.
But I envy folks who don't need this stuff and can still churn through exercise or work on hot days with plain water.
I've tried all the popular sports stuff, including NUUN tablets. The only problem I had with NUUN and other tablets was summer humidity and my own sweat thwarting even sealed ziplock baggies, making a sticky mess inside the baggies. Unfortunately the tablets were slightly larger in diameter than the glucose tablets I also carry for emergencies (I've been prone to hypoglycemia bonks since childhood), so the NUUN tabs wouldn't fit in the same sealed plastic tube with the glucose tabs.
I settled on DripDrop when I can find it (it's pricey and relatively scarce outside of pharmacies), or the much cheaper Propel. Both come in single serving Mylar packets tiny enough to fit even the most minimal saddle bag. And it can safely be tucked into a sock without sweat penetrating the Mylar packet. The DripDrop tastes good, slightly tangy. The Propel has that nasty bitter artificial sweetener flavor, but it works and it's cheap.
Another good 'un in sealed single serving Mylar packets is Emergen-C, which contains more vitamins B and C, zinc, etc. The packets are larger than the DripDrop and Propel but still small enough to tuck into a minimalist saddle bag, jersey pocket or sock and stay dry no matter how sweaty I get. Tastes okay, a bit like orange-vanilla creme sorbet, no nasty bitterness. Walgreen's was blowing out their stock of short dated Emergen-C a couple of months ago and I bought dozens of packets for a nickel apiece.
Anyway, the NUUN and other tablets worked great, but the DripDrop, Propel and Emergen-C in single serving Mylar packets keep better for me in high humidity, or tucked into my sweaty jersey or sock. And my Serfas Speed Bag has little slip pockets just large enough for these electrolyte packets.
That surprised me because I would have assumed the higher concentration of sodium and potassium might cause indigestion and diarrhea. If you've worked construction or pretty much any heavy labor industrial job, you know you don't get much time for potty breaks, and some union job breaks are heavily regulated. When I moved freight on a union loading dock we got two 15 minute rest/bathroom breaks and one 30 minute meal break per shift. No variations in time. If you needed a bathroom break off that schedule you'd better be damned quick and well ahead of schedule on your loading/unloading. No extra drink breaks either, and they frowned on carrying your own water on the dock although some guys wore belt canteens.
So either the higher concentration of electrolytes in pedialyte isn't too bad, or you get used to it. Maybe the guys who bought it diluted it with water, I dunno.
Some folks might be able to get by on plain water and a good diet, but I can't. Oddly, my bouts with stomach cramps, muscle cramps and other dehydration symptoms have never occurred during the hottest weather, even though I've bicycled up to 65 miles in Texas summer (and a local cycling friend rides full centuries once or twice a week year 'round, regardless of heat). My bouts with cramps have occurred on relatively cool overcast days. My best guess is I'm more cautious in summer but let my guard down on days in the 60s-70s and forget to drink enough.
Last bout with stomach cramps so severe I couldn't keep riding was last June on an overcast, cool morning after pushing pretty hard for an hour with hill climbing repeats. I carried some NUUN tablets but didn't premix them in my water bottles. I rested under a bridge, drank a bottle with the NUUN added, popped a glucose tablet and was fine within 30 minutes and finished another 20-30 miles on flatter, easier terrain.
But I envy folks who don't need this stuff and can still churn through exercise or work on hot days with plain water.
I've tried all the popular sports stuff, including NUUN tablets. The only problem I had with NUUN and other tablets was summer humidity and my own sweat thwarting even sealed ziplock baggies, making a sticky mess inside the baggies. Unfortunately the tablets were slightly larger in diameter than the glucose tablets I also carry for emergencies (I've been prone to hypoglycemia bonks since childhood), so the NUUN tabs wouldn't fit in the same sealed plastic tube with the glucose tabs.
I settled on DripDrop when I can find it (it's pricey and relatively scarce outside of pharmacies), or the much cheaper Propel. Both come in single serving Mylar packets tiny enough to fit even the most minimal saddle bag. And it can safely be tucked into a sock without sweat penetrating the Mylar packet. The DripDrop tastes good, slightly tangy. The Propel has that nasty bitter artificial sweetener flavor, but it works and it's cheap.
Another good 'un in sealed single serving Mylar packets is Emergen-C, which contains more vitamins B and C, zinc, etc. The packets are larger than the DripDrop and Propel but still small enough to tuck into a minimalist saddle bag, jersey pocket or sock and stay dry no matter how sweaty I get. Tastes okay, a bit like orange-vanilla creme sorbet, no nasty bitterness. Walgreen's was blowing out their stock of short dated Emergen-C a couple of months ago and I bought dozens of packets for a nickel apiece.
Anyway, the NUUN and other tablets worked great, but the DripDrop, Propel and Emergen-C in single serving Mylar packets keep better for me in high humidity, or tucked into my sweaty jersey or sock. And my Serfas Speed Bag has little slip pockets just large enough for these electrolyte packets.
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I just keep a bottle of a store brand of Mio in my bag. The store brand has vitamins and caffeine. If nothing else it gives the water a little flavor. It's a tiny bottle, just a squirt, no mixing required.
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A banana and water. Worked for Gino Bartali.
If you are having cramps and stuff, pre-hydrate. Have your Doc check your vitamin D level.
If you have the flu and can't keep anything down, pedialyte may be helpful. But as Skipjacks says, it's expensive and doesn't taste so great. Better, better tasting, and cheaper options abound.
If you are having cramps and stuff, pre-hydrate. Have your Doc check your vitamin D level.
If you have the flu and can't keep anything down, pedialyte may be helpful. But as Skipjacks says, it's expensive and doesn't taste so great. Better, better tasting, and cheaper options abound.
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One function of Vitamin D is in regulating the uptake of calcium in the gut. The other is to block parathyroid hormone, which facilitates bones taking up calcium. So the vitatmin increases calcium uptake and decreases its use in bone. Net result is an increase in circulating calcium. Calcium is an electrolyte and has a strong effect on muscles and nerves.
I was having cramping in my legs and my doc checked vitamin D levels and they were low. Took supplemental vitamin D. The cramps went away.
I was having cramping in my legs and my doc checked vitamin D levels and they were low. Took supplemental vitamin D. The cramps went away.
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One function of Vitamin D is in regulating the uptake of calcium in the gut. The other is to block parathyroid hormone, which facilitates bones taking up calcium. So the vitatmin increases calcium uptake and decreases its use in bone. Net result is an increase in circulating calcium. Calcium is an electrolyte and has a strong effect on muscles and nerves.
I was having cramping in my legs and my doc checked vitamin D levels and they were low. Took supplemental vitamin D. The cramps went away.
I was having cramping in my legs and my doc checked vitamin D levels and they were low. Took supplemental vitamin D. The cramps went away.
Vitamin D deficiency is pretty common these days. It can have an effect on circulating calcium but that usually only occurs at the extremes of vitamin D levels. Glad to hear that your muscle cramp problem resolved.
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Which might be helpful for someone who is deficient in potassium, magnesium, chloride, calcium, selenium, zinc, phosphorus, sodium, copper, manganese, molybdenum, chromium, which would be very rare. Otherwise, it's just a pointless conglomeration of chemicals whose main function is to sell Ultima Replenisher to people who don't know better.
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Here in the subtropical 100% humidity environment, I would say 1 bottle per hour minimum no matter how hydrated you are and for me, any ride over 2hrs would include a NUUN tab in every other bottle. In this climate, you have to stay on top of your hydration. I found out the hard way on my first long summer ride that electrolytes are a must.
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