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Old 01-19-18, 11:52 PM
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Shimano or SRAM

I prefer my Shimano equipped drivetrains but the bikes I have with SRAM have performed very well. I am just wondering what other cyclists prefer and why.
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Old 01-20-18, 12:42 AM
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They both make really good drivetrain components. I'd be inclined to run SRAM on any 1x drivetrain, mountain or road/cross. I like how definite the feel of SRAM doubletap road levers is, and I think that 5800 and 6800 Shimano levers are a little indistinct in feel, but 7800 and R8000 and R9000 levers have a better lever shape and shifter feel in my opinion. I like the way Shimano hydraulic road brakes feel a little better, and I'd rather bleed them over Sram, but they both work well. SRAM road shifters are intrinsically a lot lighter than Shimano. Ultegra level Di2 is available a whole lot cheaper than eTap.
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I prefer SRAM simply because I usually ride with my hands on the hoods and the brifters fit my hands better. The Shimano brifters are uncomfortably wide for my hands. Both brands shift well.
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Old 01-20-18, 08:28 AM
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I'm all over the map. Shimano for cranksets, because of familiarity. KMC for chains. Shimano for brakes, because easy to install and bleed, and because mineral oil. I used to favor SRAM for shifters and derailleurs, but I have come back around to Shimano for ease of install.

Don't forget about Microshift. Someday I'll build a bike with a Microshift group on it, just to see how that plays out.
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Old 01-20-18, 08:48 AM
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Just to throw the cat among the pigeons: Campagnolo. Never had anything else on a road bike but then both my bikes are really old. If I was buying one now it would almost certainly be Shimano or SRAM and I don't know which I'd prefer.

I really like the SRAM twist shifter I have on my recumbent, though. The Shimano groupset on my Giant mountain bike doesn't work that well, but I bought the bike used and it's had a pretty hard life so it probably isn't fair to judge it on that.
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Old 01-20-18, 08:59 AM
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If campag didn't have such overpriced consumables and silly consumer pricing this side of the Atlantic, I'd keep buying.

Like the Shimano ergonomics and shifter action. their hydraulics are brillant and run on mineral oil. All excellent engineering and QA. Set it up and bam it works.
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SRAM....pricing is silly. Don't like the shifter action. Definitely not a fan of using DOT fluid. Then they go an hawk the snot out of their 1x nonsense (one of my mates jokes that this is because they cannot make a decent front der).
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
I prefer my Shimano equipped drivetrains but the bikes I have with SRAM have performed very well. I am just wondering what other cyclists prefer and why.
You'll get all kind of random responses for the one or the other manufacturer. You should clarify if you mean road or MTB group.

I'm a huge proponent of 1x drivetrains (all MTB group for me), so SRAM is my preference since Shimano often doesn't even have a product (no 1x12, not fatbike, limited chainring options for 1x). but if shimano decided to compete at some point, I would consider both brands.

I never used a 1x11 Shimano shifter, but they seem to have more options of how to activate the shifting compared to SRAM (index finger, double-downshift etc.) so for 1x11 or even 2x10 or 2x11 both brands may be more a preference issue. i test rode 3x9 shimano bikes and hated the shifting (I believe 10-speed and higher gives you the options mentioned above). So the answer may be different for more or fewer speeds.

Since people threw in brakes, I'm a shimano hydraulic disc fan, not a DOT fan at all and SRAM has been very troublesome in hydraulic brakes. If you have a road bike with integrated shifter/brake this may be determining your drive train choice unless you go for cable brakes. For MTB you can mix brake and shifter brands.

My bikes mostly came with SRAM, never had a problem. but shimano surely makes long lasting products as well.

I don't care about each component being the same brand... only derailleurs and shifters need to match. I would freely buy chains, cassettes, cranks etc. from what I think is the best choice.for better new bikes that usually comes from the same brand until it wears out.
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Old 01-20-18, 12:13 PM
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I went with Rohloff.. Post derailleur one-ups-man-ship..


0.279, 0.316, 0.360, 0.409, 0.464, 0.528, 0.600, 0.682, 0.774, 0.881, 1.000, 1.135, 1.292, 1.467.







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Old 01-20-18, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
Don't forget about Microshift. Someday I'll build a bike with a Microshift group on it, just to see how that plays out.
Its great stuff. The shifts are louder and more...hard click than Shimano, but the shifters are comfortable(for me) and as reliable as anything ive tried.
I love the 2 dedicated shift paddles in addition to the brake lever on the 7-9 speed shifters.

I have 7sp shifters on an old road bike and built a frame up with 11sp Microshift shifters and derailleurs. The 11sp setup was just as good as my Shimano 11sp setup.

I dont understand why Microshift uses a Campy style button on their 10 and 11sp offerings. Odd that they switch from paddle to button after 10sp. Only complaint.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Its great stuff. The shifts are louder and more...hard click than Shimano, but the shifters are comfortable(for me) and as reliable as anything ive tried.
I love the 2 dedicated shift paddles in addition to the brake lever on the 7-9 speed shifters.

I have 7sp shifters on an old road bike and built a frame up with 11sp Microshift shifters and derailleurs. The 11sp setup was just as good as my Shimano 11sp setup.

I dont understand why Microshift uses a Campy style button on their 10 and 11sp offerings. Odd that they switch from paddle to button after 10sp. Only complaint.
They probably got a nasty letter from the Shimano legal department...who I'd guess "owns" the dual-paddle shift lever design. Amazing how much of that stuff is patented, still , after all these years. Rotor had to resort to hydraulic shifting probably to dodge licensing-because everyone else already has patented all the other mech-actuated parallelogram methods.

https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/can-f...-monopoly.html
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
They probably got a nasty letter from the Shimano legal department...who I'd guess "owns" the dual-paddle shift lever design. Amazing how much of that stuff is patented, still , after all these years. Rotor had to resort to hydraulic shifting probably to dodge licensing-because everyone else already has patented all the other mech-actuated parallelogram methods.

https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/can-f...-monopoly.html
I view Shimano as having a paddle plus brake lever shifting. Thats compared to the Microshift wheres its 2 paddles plus brake lever.
Interesting how we view Shimano's setup with different terms.

I figured Microshift went to the 2 paddles as a design to stay away from whatever patents may exist with Shimano's setup.

Ill have to read those links, thanks!
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I've been a Shimano guy for ever - mostly because that was such a dominate part of the market. As SRAM came onto the market I stayed away mostly because I didn't like twist shifters.

The last two bikes (trikes) that we've bought were Catrikes with 10-speed SRAM derailleurs and bar end shifters. Since the time that I've gotten them dialed in I have loved them.

I've never owned a Campy equipped bike but I've always wanted to do a long term test on one. I kind of doubt that's ever going to happen now.
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Have a few bikes with Campag Derailleurs, Euclid, Olympus, Rally , but they're all friction shifted via Bar ends/thumb shifters..

Last year, got an i9 Sram IGH, with its grip shift, Bike Friday Tikit folder.. Used , half of new price, of what is a discontinued model.
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Well since you asked I prefer Shimano levers on drop bars. I can't seem to adapt to the ergonomics of the inner lever on SRAM double tap for lower gears. I can't see how anyone can go to one gear lower on a bumpy road, the feeling of it is just so vague, just plain wrong to me. I like SRAM just fine on MTB, very robust indexing.
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Whatever works. Currently, Campagnolo 10sp on my road bikes, Shimano and SRAM on everything else.
I started with friction shift SunTour many years ago, went to Campy Nuovo Record, Shimano 105 friction, SunTour Sprint 7sp (never could get it dialed), Shimano 600 SIS, Shimano Deore 8sp thumb shifters, GripShift and Shimano LX (those shifters disintegrated over time--switched to LX trigger shifters, much better), Shimano Ultegra/DuraAce 9sp (didn't like the cables coming out of the side of the brifters, but it worked great), Campy Centaur and Chorus 10sp, Shimano XT, SRAM X5 with grip shift, and later this week I'll have a Shimano CX and SRAM GX 2x10 combo on a gravel bike. It all keeps getting better.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
I went with Rohloff.. Post derailleur one-ups-man-ship..


0.279, 0.316, 0.360, 0.409, 0.464, 0.528, 0.600, 0.682, 0.774, 0.881, 1.000, 1.135, 1.292, 1.467.







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I want one of those when I grow up.

I have Campy and Shimano on my bikes. I only have Shimano on the bikes that came with it, Campy, if I built up the bike. Both shift fine. I just don't want to get into SRAM and have to get used to another set of shifters.

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I like some of what Shimano does and if they eliminated Tourney, Claris, Altus, Acera and Sora they would be much better. I will forgive them for the MTB STI disasters and the god awful looks for Ultegra and Dura Ace during 9 speed (minus the 25th anniversary) and all that whacky Biopacé (bee-oh-pah-chee)

I like the feel of SRAM brake levers more than the Shimano brake levers (not talking STI/Doubletap) Though I wish Shimano would make a nicer more ergo lever modeled after their newer STIs (like Ultegra 6800 or Dura-Ace 9000) but again that is just for braking. Plenty of people who would want that from touring cyclists to single speeders and fixed gear roadies to people not wanting STIs or even people looking to do 1x setups or someone maybe with a vintage machine they want to do some upgrades too.

I would say for pre-80s vintage, I would go Campy all the way.
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Shimano for me, simply because I do not like SRAMs push-push trigger mechanism.

I've got a couple Microshift shifters that work just fine too.
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I like Shimano, SRAM and Campy. Shimano hoods are the most comfortable for me. The differences in shifting seems a wash, when I switch bikes I get used to the shifting within a block or so. Shimano cranksets are so ugly it is hard to look at them compared to SRAM and especially Campy cranksets. The next bike I build will have Shimano a Ultegra group with a White Industries crankset.
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You can't go wrong either way. It's like Canon vs Nikon, Mercedes vs BMW, Calloway vs Ping.... They all have their detractors and supporters. Both make great products.
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I have a dream that someday the majority of road bikes will come equipped with Campagnolo. It's a good dream.
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But its a dream.. Even their Romanian factory cannot cut the cost , enough, to outfit a $450 roll out the door, bike..

advantage having the bike companies all clustered around Taiwan.

and Singapore , etc.. and fully automated manufacturing..


Or <C>seeking to maintain a prestige brand name , and just cutting labor prices enough to maintain the upper medium tier price point

in Europe , is enough for the family.. Or, are.. Campagnolo shares Publicly traded?





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I have Shimano on both of my bikes. I rode SRAM on a rental bike for a week. I like them both, they shifted when I pushed whatever action was required of me. I've never tried Campy stuff, but the people who use it remind me of vegans or people who back into parking spots (annoying) so I will avoid Campy out of general principles. I kid, I kid, I like Shimano plenty. I'll just stick with that.
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There's something to like about each of the big 3, and something not to love.

I prefer the SRAM "double-tap" shifting motion to the Campy thumb button or the Shimano double levers. But I've had SRAM RDs fail spectacularly.

I love the FD microtrim on the old Campy 10-speed. But I don't love the higher cost of Campy chains, BBs, and cables.

I love the ubiquity and reliability of Shimano, and their caliper brakes are the best. But blah. So, so blah.

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how about di2 vs etap?
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