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52telecaster 01-30-18 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by PaddleFoot (Post 20140074)
If you see a banana peel it is trash. The person that left it there is a ******.

one of the reasons i use real fruit when touring, pears, apples, oranges and occasionally bananas is so i can discretely discard them where they will biodegrade. i would never drop packaging anywhere but the core of a piece of fruit does no real harm in the weeds on the roadside in my personal opinion. just as i wouldnt mind one being dropped in my yard. dogpoop is another thing entirely....

TakingMyTime 01-30-18 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by turkey9186 (Post 20139833)
The green, or sometimes blue, cartridges are from vape pens.

I guess you do learn something new everyday. I did not know that.

indyfabz 01-30-18 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by 52telecaster (Post 20140258)
one of the reasons i use real fruit when touring, pears, apples, oranges and occasionally bananas is so i can discretely discard them where they will biodegrade.

Yeah. I have tossed more than my fair share of apple cores into the woods/bushes. I like to think of all the happy critters and insects who got something extra to munch on.


But as I wrote above, who's to say that at least some of cartridges are not from rifles and such. Many moons ago there used to be a swimming hole in a steep, wooded area of the city. Lots of cartridges at the bottom. They certainly were not from cyclists. And unless the OP examined them closely, they could also be nitrous oxide cartridges.

tagaproject6 01-30-18 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20139933)
I was on a "group ride" years ago when one of the riders had a flat, changed his sewup tire, and hefted the old one over the guard rail. I retrieved it (at the time I was patching and re-using them), but I still thought that it was annoying that he just tossed it, whether or not he bothered to reuse them.

But, yes, I see far too many of the little CO2 cartridges on the streets. They can be used for other things, but so many are probably cyclists. :mad:

Oh, yes, the occasional tube too. :P

I don't worry too much about banana peels, orange peels, or apple cores, but I never throw them out in urban areas, but sometimes in rural areas, off the road, never to be seen again.

Do they still run those TV commercials with the old Indian standing on the side of the road with a frown and litter being thrown at his feet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Suu84khNGY

I suppose it now would be considered racist.

That "Indian" dude's Italian. :foo:

CliffordK 01-30-18 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by tagaproject6 (Post 20140297)
That "Indian" dude's Italian. :foo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody

Hmmm :foo:

Still, perhaps it is a message that many need to be reminded about.

Milton Keynes 01-30-18 09:21 AM

I also have no problem with banana peels, apple cores, or any other natural "trash" being discarded along trails as long as it's off the trail. I've thrown banana peels away way off the side of the road. They will biodegrade in short order, will fertilize other flora, and throwing out an apple core may even plant a new apple tree.

But paper, plastic, or metal trash should be packed away and disposed of at the next trash receptacle. There's no excuse for being lazy.

CliffordK 01-30-18 09:34 AM

Of course, there is always burning...

Four-day-old forest fire started by man burning toilet paper - NY Daily News

Troul 01-30-18 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by northtexasbiker (Post 20140250)
My cousin Mario has had some bad luck with banana peels left on the paths.

Ohhhh. Mamma Mia!

aplcr0331 01-30-18 11:02 AM

Well, did you pick them up?


I mean, being a hero and all.

McBTC 01-30-18 11:12 AM

If you ride with a gun and shoot a wild pig while on tour, in some places it is permissible to just leave the carcass for wild animals to munch on...

Nachoman 01-30-18 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 20140577)
If you ride with a gun and shoot a wild pig while on tour, in some places it is permissible to just leave the carcass for wild animals to munch on...

And by "wild pig" I assume you're referring to a fellow cyclist won't waive back you?

rumrunn6 01-30-18 01:07 PM

last fall took a break in a nice sunny spot where a stream fed a cranberry bog. nice & sunny w rocks to sit on. as I was having my lunch I looked down & saw a discarded needle. not stopping there again. would have picked it up to throw it out later & probably should have, but I was just too creeped out to touch it

shelbyfv 01-30-18 01:17 PM

I don't recall ever seeing an improperly discarded tube or CO2 cartridge and I'm certain I've never been on a ride with someone who intentionally chucked either. Maybe this is more of a MUP thing as opposed to regular cyclists? Folks who worry about an apple core or banana peel should ride a trail shared with horses, gain some perspective:rolleyes:

Milton Keynes 01-30-18 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 20140839)
last fall took a break in a nice sunny spot where a stream fed a cranberry bog. nice & sunny w rocks to sit on. as I was having my lunch I looked down & saw a discarded needle. not stopping there again. would have picked it up to throw it out later & probably should have, but I was just too creeped out to touch it

Heroin addicts who are tripping balls normally don't stop to pick up their trash.

CliffordK 01-30-18 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 20140862)
I don't recall ever seeing an improperly discarded tube or CO2 cartridge and I'm certain I've never been on a ride with someone who intentionally chucked either. Maybe this is more of a MUP thing as opposed to regular cyclists? Folks who worry about an apple core or banana peel should ride a trail shared with horses, gain some perspective:rolleyes:

It really depends on the trail, and where you're riding. Thinking about it, I'm not sure I've seen a lot of MTB trash in the woods, although I may not be on MTB trails much.

I have seen plenty of firepits full of half-burned trash :mad:

The popular thing to do around here is to bag up one's dog poop, then leave the little plastic bag full of poop next to the trail. :thumb:

Milton Keynes 01-30-18 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by northtexasbiker (Post 20140250)
My cousin Mario has had some bad luck with banana peels left on the paths.

Once during a race I had just pulled into first place, then someone behind me threw a turtle shell under my wheels and made me wreck.

jfowler85 01-30-18 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20140333)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Eyes_Cody

Hmmm :foo:

Still, perhaps it is a message that many need to be reminded about.

About italian american indians?

Retro Grouch 01-31-18 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 20140577)
If you ride with a gun and shoot a wild pig while on tour, in some places it is permissible to just leave the carcass for wild animals to munch on...

But how about your brass?

Retro Grouch 01-31-18 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 20141305)
Once during a race I had just pulled into first place, then someone behind me threw a turtle shell under my wheels and made me wreck.

Now that is sick. Turtles are my spirit animal. Turtle shells should be treated more respectfully.

McBTC 01-31-18 10:39 AM

2 million years from now that cartridge would be an amazing find-- tool of early man or a religious artifact?

trailangel 01-31-18 11:00 AM

The air rifle CO2 cartridges are not threaded on the end.
I don't know about the vap cartridges.
I've hit several empties with my front tire.. and they shot across the street.
I'm assuming they are mostly from Vap devices and people throw them out their car windows.
Most of the cyclist I know don't throw stuff on the ground.....but don't get me started on cyclist that spit during a group ride.....no no...

Number400 01-31-18 11:12 AM

I see mostly bad habits tossed from car windows. Cigarette packs and empty beer cans are the most common around here.

Then there are the dog poop baggers that leave their payload behind on the trails and paths. If you are already picking it up, then why not throw it away?!

Retro Grouch 01-31-18 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20140947)
The popular thing to do around here is to bag up one's dog poop, then leave the little plastic bag full of poop next to the trail. :thumb:

We get that here too but they don't seem to accumulate so I suspect the folks who left them pick them up on their way back out. I have to admit that, while I'll pack out most other kinds of litter, I draw the line on dog poop.

indyfabz 01-31-18 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by trailangel (Post 20142626)
The air rifle CO2 cartridges are not threaded on the end.

I have an inflator that can be used with threaded or non-threaded.

Milton Keynes 01-31-18 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by trailangel (Post 20142626)
Most of the cyclist I know don't throw stuff on the ground.....but don't get me started on cyclist that spit during a group ride.....no no...

Yes, I know all too well... On my century ride, 400 riders and I get stuck next to the guy who wants to spit all the time. I felt even worse for the people behind him.


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