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Troul 01-30-18 06:17 PM

Can you Taylor a Brifter?

Dirt Farmer 01-30-18 07:21 PM

I prefer "brafting"

JohnDThompson 01-30-18 08:11 PM

IIRC, Sheldon Brown either coined the portmanteau "brifter" or at least popularized its use.

OmegaWolf 01-30-18 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 20140496)
Okay ... In protest, my bike now has "Shake leverers."



That sounds like trouble.

pickettt 01-30-18 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by friday1970 (Post 20141414)
Brifter
a bicycle handlebar mounted system used specifically on road bicycles that combines the action for both slowing the bicycle and shifting a gear derailleur through levers built into a single device.
Plural: Brifters
Brifters - a set of a left hand and a right hand brifter used for both controlling the front and rear derailleurs and the front and rear brakes



Shimano's Dual Control mountain bike shifter/brake levers also fall under this category. Though, they were an EPIC failure.

Retro Grouch 01-31-18 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by mackgoo (Post 20140285)
Who the heck came up with this? They're shifters and, yes you apply the brakes also, but I shift not brift.

I'm not even going to attempt to correct that misnomer until after I succeed in getting people to stop using the word "alloy" as a synonym for "aluminum".

Shimagnolo 01-31-18 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20142093)
I'm not even going to attempt to correct that misnomer until after I succeed in getting people to stop using the word "alloy" as a synonym for "aluminum".

:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Just Mark 01-31-18 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 20140472)
Its very clearly a portmanteau.

What does a travel case have to do with brifters?

bobwysiwyg 01-31-18 01:15 PM

Alternate definition;

"a word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’) or brunch (from ‘breakfast’ and ‘lunch’)."
"podcast is a portmanteau, a made-up word coined from a combination of the words iPod and broadcast"

Steve B. 01-31-18 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by pickettt (Post 20141882)
Shimano's Dual Control mountain bike shifter/brake levers also fall under this category. Though, they were an EPIC failure.

I was going to mention these units, I have them on my dual suspension.

Thread drift below.

I may be the only person who likes them. I got them as a package with Sun disc rims, disk rotors, plus the hydraulic shifter-brake things. They shift great and are easy to use. I understand they were hated due to the ease of accidentally shifting while using the brakes, especially in bumpy terrain, but I’ve never had that problem. As well and on my regular XT shifters where the R thumb goes to bigger cogs, my thumb gets tired pushing the lever, possibly as I’ve had assorted sprains, dislocations and other thumb injuries, so the dual control things work great for me.

pesty 02-01-18 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20142093)
I'm not even going to attempt to correct that misnomer until after I succeed in getting people to stop using the word "alloy" as a synonym for "aluminum".

While I don't disagree, to be fair... the aluminum used in the manufacture of bikes is an alloy. Alloy is generic and could be pretty much anything on the bike made of metal as you're not going to find a part comprised 100% of any single element.

Retro Grouch 02-01-18 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by pesty (Post 20144437)
While I don't disagree, to be fair... the aluminum used in the manufacture of bikes is an alloy.

Well so is steel. Try explaining to a customer that steel rims are truly "alloy".

pesty 02-01-18 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20144768)
Well so is steel. Try explaining to a customer that steel rims are truly "alloy".

I would hope that the customer would already know that steel is an alloy, but maybe I’m giving the general populous too much credit. So if you’re advocating that we do away with the term alloy all together, regardless of if it refers to steel, aluminum, titanium, magnesium or chromoly (yes, I know it’s a type of steel); yes, I agree with you.

TimothyH 02-01-18 02:57 PM

I kinda-sorta almost want to build a 1x cruiser bike with a suicide brifter, similar to this. Maybe even Di2.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N...andlebrake.jpg

baileyswalk 02-01-18 02:59 PM

Love me some brifting

ThermionicScott 02-02-18 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by pesty (Post 20144933)
I would hope that the customer would already know that steel is an alloy, but maybe I’m giving the general populous too much credit. So if you’re advocating that we do away with the term alloy all together, regardless of if it refers to steel, aluminum, titanium, magnesium or chromoly (yes, I know it’s a type of steel); yes, I agree with you.

Good luck with that quest, you guys. "Alloy" has been a colloquialism for "aluminum alloy" for generations now. ;)

daviddavieboy 02-02-18 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20144768)
Try explaining to a customer that steel rims are truly "alloy".

Yes steel is an alloy, mostly of iron and carbon.

Retro Grouch 02-02-18 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by daviddavieboy (Post 20146744)
Umm steel is an alloy, mostly of iron and carbon. FYI

Of course. That's my point. Steel is by definition an alloy. Steel doesn't exist until you mix iron and carbon together. Aluminum is an element of itself. You can have pure aluminum with nothing else in it. My peeve is with people using the word "alloy" as though it were a synonym for "aluminum".

I'm pretty sure Thermionic Scott is right, however, and it's not going to change.

daviddavieboy 02-03-18 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20146929)
Of course. That's my point. Steel is by definition an alloy. Steel doesn't exist until you mix iron and carbon together. Aluminum is an element of itself. You can have pure aluminum with nothing else in it. My peeve is with people using the word "alloy" as though it were a synonym for "aluminum".

I'm pretty sure Thermionic Scott is right, however, and it's not going to change.

Sry bout that, That's what I get for not using my reading glasses. As far as 'brifter' is concerned, Those having an issue with that very descriptive word should pull the aluminum out of their @$$. . . or is it alloy?

pesty 02-03-18 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Retro Grouch (Post 20146929)
Of course. That's my point. Steel is by definition an alloy. Steel doesn't exist until you mix iron and carbon together. Aluminum is an element of itself. You can have pure aluminum with nothing else in it. My peeve is with people using the word "alloy" as though it were a synonym for "aluminum".

I'm pretty sure Thermionic Scott is right, however, and it's not going to change.

My first two bikes were chromoly and steel, third was aluminum. All said "alloy" on a sticker somewhere, so when I hear "alloy" I just think "cheap metal", or revert back to chromoly. Either I don't hear people referring to aluminum as "alloy" much, or it's selective hearing due to my assumption that they are referring to cheap Target/Walmart/Toys'R'Us chromoly. I honestly don't really hear the word alloy that much. Maybe it's regional?


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