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When Did "Gravel" Bikes Hit The Market
It seems more and more these days gravel bikes are getting a lot of play and occupying a greater portion of the market. It seems like it happened over night. I know that the acceptance and popularity has been more gradual though. When did they start appearing in manufacturers catalogs labeled as such? When did gravel bikes get added to out sub forums here?
Just a curiosity. |
Why not ask this in the appropriate sub forum?
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Rivendell has been making them since 1994.
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No clue, but after buying mine, I see no reason for myself to own a proper "road" bike.
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I love my gravel bike, it's my favorite bike... but I haven't rode it as much as I thought I would.
I ride my road bikes and hardtail 29er mountain bike a lot more. |
Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 20196139)
Rivendell has been making them since 1994.
The Bianchi project series are the earliest examples of 29ers I am aware of, https://www.bikehugger.com/posts/the...at-wasnt-700d/ I own and ride gravel on my '93 Bridgestone XO 2 with 26 x 1.75 tires and drops. I'd like to find a bianchi project bike to build and ride one of these days as well. Even earlier in time I guess would be a 650b wheel bike; the French were fans of this a long time ago and it is having its day in the sun. You can certainly take a "vintage" road bike, add 650b wheels (not all vintage bikes work for this) and end up with a very capable all roads machine. The OP is asking when gravel bikes "hit" the market and that is not that long ago that they became a "thing." I think they were pushed first by enthusiasts who modded existing bikes to ride on gravel roads mainly in the midwest, proselytized the idea, and then the manufacturers--always eager to sell you N plus 1--jumped on the idea. I know "Guitar Ted" has a bunch of posts on building the "gravel mutt" bike. It's not that different in some ways from the early days of mountain bikes when a bunch of hippies out in California built the first mountain bikes before they became commercialized. In any case, if anyone knows more about the story of how gravel bikes became a thing, I'd like hear about it as well. |
Around 1885, IIRC. 1893 would be a safer bet.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt
(Post 20196245)
Around 1885, IIRC. 1893 would be a safer bet.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20196234)
Aren't they heavier?
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 20196078)
It seems more and more these days gravel bikes are getting a lot of play and occupying a greater portion of the market. It seems like it happened over night. I know that they acceptance and popularity has been more gradual though. When did they start appearing in manufacturers catalogs labeled as such? When did gravel bikes get added to out sub forums here?
Just a curiosity. |
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20196271)
I'd like to see 'em make something in between a gravel bike and a road bike.
Basically, something as light as a road bike...but with 32 tires. Dunno the weight, nothing really online except a few reviews that put it in the 20-21# range. Looked like it had room to get to at least 40mm tires as well, and probably even bigger. https://images.giant-bicycles.com/b_...or-A-Green.jpg https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/anyroad-advanced-1 |
Honestly, the concept goes back to the first bikes which were designed for riding on rougher surfaces than tarmac. Calling something a "gravel bike" is just marketing.
There were tons of grass-track races in the 20s and the bikes used in those events were essentially the gravel bikes of that era with fatter tires and more slack geometry. Lots of builders have been proponents of randonneuring / audax bikes or similar fat-tires road bikes since at least the 30s. Some of the current "adventure bikes" you see on the Radavist look a lot like classic Rene Herse rando bikes or bikes that were used in Paris-Brest-Paris back in the day. The ballooners of the late sixties in California which led to mountain bikes were essentially modified road frames and again look a lot like some current adventure offerings. Tom Ritchey stated on a podcast recently that he and a bunch of California pros were doing what are now called gravel rides back in the late 60's. He called them "Jobst" rides after the legendary Jobst Brandt. As other have said, Grant Peterson has been preaching the gospel of these types of bikes since at least the mid 80s. Today, I think a small but growing number of road riders are just kind of done with the whole lycra-n-Oakleys-n-carbon TdF racer thing. Also, more people are realizing (like me) that dirt road rides have less traffic and are often more interesting. I think "gravel bikes" are just more practical for lots of people. |
"Gravel Bike" is just a marketing term. The material differences between a gravel bike and a cyclocross bike are minute at best.
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The dedicated road bike I have doesn’t cut it on bad payment county roads on my cx and gravel bike I can hit stuff and not hit the ground. Gravel roads lead to interesting places with little traffic that doesn’t move at 75mph. I can hear vehicles approaching so I can get out of the way. Maneuvering around livestock and over cattle guards with relative ease. They more versatile and can ride almost anywhere.
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Originally Posted by General Geoff
(Post 20196377)
"Gravel Bike" is just a marketing term. The material differences between a gravel bike and a cyclocross bike are minute at best.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
(Post 20196385)
That's incorrect. CX bikes have a higher bottom bracket to clear obstacles and a more aggressive racing position. Gravel bikes have a low, sometimes super low, bottom bracket for stability on gravel and a more relaxed position (for better control on gravel) with tall stack heights and head tubes. There's more to a gravel or CX bike besides the size of the tire you can fit.
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Originally Posted by brianmcg123
(Post 20196139)
Rivendell has been making them since 1994.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
(Post 20196137)
Why not ask this in the appropriate sub forum?
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Originally Posted by General Geoff
(Post 20196406)
Depends on which gravel bike manufacturer you look at. Some gravel bikes are very aggressive with super short wheelbases/chainstays and more aggressive riding postures, others have gravel bikes which are essentially hybrid bicycles with drop bars.
Now of course, people have raced and won gravel races on CX bikes. But that's a different subject. |
Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
(Post 20196415)
This is what I was looking for. If I were to find a 1994 catalog it would show a Rivendell "Gravel" bike by that name?
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You're describing the old "sports touring" category
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20196271)
I'd like to see 'em make something in between a gravel bike and a road bike.
Basically, something as light as a road bike...but with 32 tires. |
Most of the cyclocross bikes we sold that weren't race focused bikes became "gravel bikes" for the 2016 model year. Market differentiation was happening earlier in 2014/2015 but it really hit peak for us here in Georgia in late 2015. So far it seems to be a good thing, people are much more open to purchasing a gravel bike that they were a cyclocross bike as there's no racing association at all with the former.
Google trends is illustrative. https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...=gravel%20bike |
Originally Posted by Lazyass
(Post 20196385)
That's incorrect. CX bikes have a higher bottom bracket to clear obstacles and a more aggressive racing position. Gravel bikes have a low, sometimes super low, bottom bracket for stability on gravel and a more relaxed position (for better control on gravel) with tall stack heights and head tubes. There's more to a gravel or CX bike besides the size of the tire you can fit.
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Industry trend mongers at work..
<guess> Less than 10 years.. ? ... |
Originally Posted by Lazyass
(Post 20196385)
That's incorrect. CX bikes have a higher bottom bracket to clear obstacles and a more aggressive racing position. Gravel bikes have a low, sometimes super low, bottom bracket for stability on gravel and a more relaxed position (for better control on gravel) with tall stack heights and head tubes. There's more to a gravel or CX bike besides the size of the tire you can fit.
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