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Teamprovicycle 03-25-18 08:13 PM

What's the deal with fixie wheels?
 
So i see fix gear bikes on cl and ebay well under 300 with what looks like aero wheels . why do they have them ? Would they be good on road bikes . are they crap , or just for looks . the last thing i need to get is aero wheels under 500 usd i dont want tubular so i wonder if they would be an option..???

europa 03-25-18 11:13 PM

Fashion. Beginning and end of story.

JanMM 03-26-18 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by europa (Post 20245397)
Fashion. Beginning and end of story.

Also the middle of the story.

indyfabz 03-26-18 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by JanMM (Post 20246343)
Also the middle of the story.

And the epilogue.

mcours2006 03-26-18 12:51 PM

It screams 'hipster'.

ThermionicScott 03-26-18 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle (Post 20245203)
So i see fix gear bikes on cl and ebay well under 300 with what looks like aero wheels . why do they have them ? Would they be good on road bikes . are they crap , or just for looks . the last thing i need to get is aero wheels under 500 usd i dont want tubular so i wonder if they would be an option..???

A big part of fixed-gear "culture" has been the re-purposing of track bikes for urban riding. Pursuit bars and deep-section wheels were an enhancement that came along in the 1980s or so, and those also became desirable for urban fixed riders. Now these pretenses have trickled down to the cheapest bikes you can find.

Get aero wheels if you desire, but they are obviously not necessary.

AlmostTrick 03-26-18 01:14 PM

They make your bike faster and cooler. Especially the ones that are neon colored.

caloso 03-26-18 01:27 PM

They're to emulate the wheels you'd see on the velodrome, but some of the deep section fixed gear wheels I've seen are so incredibly heavy that no track racer would ever use them. You could make an argument that it's possible to build up a super-bombproof wheel using 32 or 36 spoke Deep-V or CXP-33 rims that are strong enough for potholes and curb-hopping. But most of the "aero" wheels I've seen on low level FG bikes are purely for aesthetics.

Slightspeed 03-26-18 05:06 PM

The faster your wheels are, the faster you have to pedal to keep up.

caloso 03-26-18 05:17 PM

Check these out. Weinmann DP18 BLACK 32h fixed gear wheelset FORMULA HUBS Weinmann DP18 ALL BLACK fixed gear wheelset FORMULA HUBS [0072774715565] - $109.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
They are not light, but they are indestructible and inexpensive. I have a pair that I raced SSCX for several seasons on, rode fire trails, commuted on. Now my son commutes to school on these. The have never needed truing.

http://www.velomine.com/images/71777a.jpg

TimothyH 03-26-18 05:22 PM

What's the matter with you guys?

You never put baseball cards in your spokes to emulate an engine? Deep section fixie wheels are no different. They are just fun, that's all.

And it isn't like all those roadies on deep wheels get such a benefit either. $2300 Boyd's and skin tight climber's jerseys to go 14.6 MPH average and get 48th on a KOM. :rolleyes:


-Tim-

cyccommute 03-27-18 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20246345)
And the epilogue.

...and prologue.

...as well as foreword

...and author notes

...and title page

...but maybe not the jacket cover



Nay. Especially the jacket cover!

Leebo 03-27-18 09:30 AM

No coasting, 1 gear? Good for road? Not for me.

Metieval 03-27-18 09:36 AM

I thought the deep dish (not aero) wheel on the city fixie style bike was about wheel strength. a taller rim is harder to bend flat when jumping it off curbs.

fixedweasel 03-27-18 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 20247614)
...and prologue......


Quite so. Stuart O'Grady rode the Prologue fixed in the 2005 Giro and took 6th out of 197 riders. Not bad for a "fixie" eh? Few things here. Yes, 100% fashion statement on the Deep V's/Deep dish rims for casual fixed urban bikes, albeit the rim is stronger, any well built 3x wheel will stand the test. As far as the originator of the post, yes, aero rims are faster. It's a mathematical fact. Racing with carbon aero rims/rear disc's............

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ewwhit...8746/lightbox/

...............are the norm because they work. That ^^^^ front is a 404 but I've also raced with an 808 up front..........

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ewwhite/7864407080/

..............Also, folks forget that if a carbon clincher or tubular is slightly heavier than another box rim wheel, the slight increase in rotational weight is most definitely outdistanced/outperformed by an/that aero wheel. Another mathematical fact. No worries about inexpensive carbon. Unless you are a Clydesdale or put out tremendous Watts, a Chinese carbon clincher wheelset for under $400 will fit your needs and more. The reason I throw that in is my Teammate who is a USA Track National Champion had a set of 88mm Deep Chinese Carbon clinchers on his road bike that he threw out of true 3 times. Mind, he also cracked 3 Zipp rims* at the spoke hole r/t to his crazy power outputs. But for most mere mortals they are fantastic wheelsets.**

Someone else up top posted about riding fixed compared to geared. I train fixed on the road with 88mm deep rims with a 54x16/14 gearing and it is quite fine. I have ridden numerous hilly Centuries and a 200k Brevet on that bike. Don't mind fixed. It only makes you a stronger/faster rider. Ride whatever you enjoy.


*pre Firecrest..........Zipp finally fixed that problem with the excellent bullnose design of the apex also increasing the thickness of the carbon there
**i have three sets...........2 clincher............1 tubular

JanMM 03-27-18 01:57 PM

Pretty sure the OP was referring to Aerospoke wheels or similar. Before that company went south they were offering wheels any color you could imagine. And then some.

79pmooney 03-27-18 02:04 PM

The sight that never fails to make me laugh - guys nursing their snazzy fix gears down Portland's hills. No brakes of course. Gotta keep those painted rims immaculate.

Ben

caloso 03-27-18 02:09 PM

I think I misread the OP. He was asking whether or not "fixie wheels" would be good on a road bike. If you're talking about a Tarmac SL2, which is in the OP's profile, then no. Your Tarmac's rear hub is 130mm; most FG rear wheels are 120mm. And you can't fit a modern cassette on a FG hub.

If the question is whether deep section wheels are good for road bikes such as a Tarmac, then yes they are, as well answered by fixedweasel.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/e6c08b7b...158mo1_540.jpg

These Williams 58s are my race wheels, but after a weekend of racing I left them on for the Monday morning commute.

Teamprovicycle 03-27-18 09:16 PM

I was thinking for my commute bike front wheel its a giant tcx zero 2009 i also train on it i havent touched the tarmac since xmas eve it just sits on my wall id like to get it propper aero wheels...

Jax Rhapsody 03-28-18 01:38 AM

I'm pretty sure with the right tire, the Deep Vs found on cheap fixies and mtbs will still have the aerodynamic nature of more expensive ones. I don't think they're all that heavy and most of them are double wall. Is it really a big deal if they're for looks? My only thing with them is they look cheap when they have those high flange hubs. It's a style thing, like running an aerospoke wheel or wheelchair wheel. I like the look of running one on the front, when I can get one, it makes the front of the bike offset the rear, since the front to me looks plain compared to how "busy" the rear is.


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