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Old 03-26-18, 07:57 PM
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Buying a road bike - need opinions

So im gonna be buying a road bike for now and Iíve got two options. A raleigh rampar for $125 and a lotus challenger for $115. Theyíre both 10speed bikes with steel frames, only difference is the height. Iím leaning more towards the raleigh just because Iím more familiar with them. Iíve never heard of lotus bikes tbh. Anyone have/had one? Opinions?

this is just a road bike im gonna be using to ride around so at the end of the day ill probably go for the cheaper option. Trying to save up to build/buy a fixie next
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Lotus was a semi-popular brand in the US back in the 80s.
Lotus put out somebreally beautiful frames.

Like most Japanese brands thru the 80s, Lotus spec'd the Challenger differently each year.
Its a well done entry level bike from the 80s.

http://www.vintagelotusbicycles.com/...ixte.html#2962
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Buy the one that fits
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Originally Posted by Mars_ View Post
So im gonna be buying a road bike for now and Iíve got two options. A raleigh rampar for $125 and a lotus challenger for $115. Theyíre both 10speed bikes with steel frames, only difference is the height. Iím leaning more towards the raleigh just because Iím more familiar with them. Iíve never heard of lotus bikes tbh. Anyone have/had one? Opinions?

this is just a road bike im gonna be using to ride around so at the end of the day ill probably go for the cheaper option. Trying to save up to build/buy a fixie next

I don't know a single thing about each model you mentioned. But you mentioned they're different 'height', or frame size. Test ride them both if you can, one will fit you better than the other. If the 'height' difference (standover height I assume) is a couple of inches different, that could make a huge difference in how the bike fits. The bigger bike will have a longer top tube and probably a longer stem.
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The Lotus brand name was owned by an importer on Long Island, who had bicycles manufactured overseas for the U.S. market. Centurion, Nishiki, and Univega were similar import brands.

Both Raleigh and Lotus had a full range of bikes, from entry-level to pro quality, so don't let the brand name alone dictate your purchase. Rampar models were at the bottom end of Raleigh's product line. The Lotus Challenger wasn't a high-end bike, but it did have some quality features that Rampars didn't, like double-butted CrMo tubing and alloy rims. (For sake of full disclosure: I only spot-checked specs and don't know if this applies to all model years.)

More importantly, you mentioned that the bikes are different heights. If the frames aren't the same size, the number one criteria by far is fit. A poorly-fitting bike, even a really nice one, can be a really uncomfortable ride.
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Old 03-26-18, 09:19 PM
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Thank you guys for the advice! Update: looked a bit more into the bikes, and yea gonna end up buying the lotus. The frame on the raleigh has a fixed dropout, while the dropout on the lotus is open (like a track frame, but it’s not horizontal). The height difference is a couple centimeters, so it’s no big deal. I will see if I can test ride the bikes before tho, just to see.

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The Lotus brand name was owned by an importer on Long Island, who had bicycles manufactured overseas for the U.S. market. Centurion, Nishiki, and Univega were similar import brands.

Both Raleigh and Lotus had a full range of bikes, from entry-level to pro quality, so don't let the brand name alone dictate your purchase. Rampar models were at the bottom end of Raleigh's product line. The Lotus Challenger wasn't a high-end bike, but it did have some quality features that Rampars didn't, like double-butted CrMo tubing and alloy rims. (For sake of full disclosure: I only spot-checked specs and don't know if this applies to all model years.)

More importantly, you mentioned that the bikes are different heights. If the frames aren't the same size, the number one criteria by far is fit. A poorly-fitting bike, even a really nice one, can be a really uncomfortable ride.
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Lotus was a semi-popular brand in the US back in the 80s.
Lotus put out somebreally beautiful frames.

Like most Japanese brands thru the 80s, Lotus spec'd the Challenger differently each year.
Its a well done entry level bike from the 80s.
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Buy the one that fits

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