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Obeast 04-08-18 07:52 PM

Do bike light thieves ever consider human safety in their actions?
 
I had a cheapo $5 LED headlight that I sometimes felt too lazy to remove. Yesterday was the one time I forgot to remove and some thief stole it. I canīt fathom the resale value of a $5 headlight. I had to ride home in the dark like a ninja.

wschruba 04-08-18 08:13 PM

Welcome to reality: people steal, just like they ride bikes, for many reasons.

Maybe they wanted to make a (literal) quick buck. Maybe they felt like screwing another person. There only person that knows is the one who took your light.

Teamprovicycle 04-08-18 08:18 PM

I too have lost a 7 dollar light like that , im like , damn , can i be safe !!!!????

fixedweasel 04-08-18 08:21 PM

no

blue192 04-09-18 12:01 AM

I have learned a long time ago that there is aholes out there that will steal anything and everything under the sun. Thieves do not care about you or your stuff otherwise they would not steal in the first place.

General Geoff 04-09-18 12:11 AM

Do not go visiting the intentions of a thief. Regard for their victims' lives is generally pretty low on their priorities when they risk their own lives for a few bucks.

CliffordK 04-09-18 12:30 AM

I'm not sure. They may well consider human safety.... Well, at least their own safety.

Usually they leave my $1 lights alone.... But, I've even had the $1 lights stolen. :foo:

I've thought about this recently. If the states, cities, and the police really wanted to be pro-cycling, they'd make it a felony with at least 30 days mandatory jail time to steal a bicycle, or remove anything off of another person's bike including critical safety equipment. They might get a surge of arrests, but then the entire cycling community would become cleaner very quickly.

I wonder if you could even file a police report for stolen $5 bicycle lights. But, if people were going around stealing car lights, the newspapers and police would be right on top of it.

Stores (and communities) should be encouraged to not only install bike racks, but also to have surveillance of those racks in high resolution and multiple angles, as well as easy access to the data.

MikeyMK 04-09-18 01:18 AM

The very concept of theft is based around selfishness.

My lights are not removeable without tools. One of my rear lights requires a key.

canklecat 04-09-18 02:12 AM

No. That's why they're thieves. Many criminals have grown up with crappy lives of constant fear, abuse and other issues that clouded their judgment and made them indifferent to conventional values. Then they make it worse by continuing to commit crimes, live self-destructively, and often end up in jail or prison where the abuse continues. All of which fuels a cycle of self loathing and compensatory self destructive behaviors.

In comparison with that, the discomfort of a theft victim over loss of property hardly registers on their scales. They'd need an entire life reboot for it to even begin to make a difference.

imobilinpedalus 04-09-18 04:11 AM

Be grateful the thief didn`t remove the bicycle from the headlight. I live in a small & rich country in a medium sized town and park my bike all around town. At first i used to be apprehensive about leaving my lights on but now i realize nobody seems to care picking it. I have a pretty nice small tail light from blackburn that will easily fit inside a closed palm and is held in place by a rubber band. My headlight is a $50 cree light, a pretty heavy set up with the batteries. No issues at all with theft. Had this set up for 5 years now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Zoomable-16...gAAOSweW5VLFjf

I`ve had to replace the cables once during the 5 year period but it still works like a charm, really happy about it and lots of light and the battery pack hasn`t failed me yet :thumb:

I suppose if i got one of these on my bike i`d start to worry about theft again, lol.

Bright As Day 10000 | Moonlight Mountain Gear

FWIW, i equip all my bikes with reflective stickers on some key locations for added safety.

mcours2006 04-09-18 06:23 AM

I usually take all my lights off my bike when I'm locking it up...for this very reason.

Patriot1 04-09-18 06:48 AM

Human safety...nope, they don’t care.

Thieves/petty criminals have no decency, honor, or self respect.

eja_ bottecchia 04-09-18 06:57 AM

The more that I see of people, the more that I love my dogs. If only they could be taught to ride a bike!

eja_ bottecchia 04-09-18 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by Patriot1 (Post 20273262)
Human safety...nope, they don’t care.

Thieves/petty criminals have no decency, honor, or self respect.

Amen!

indyfabz 04-09-18 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Obeast (Post 20272682)
I canīt fathom the resale value of a $5 headlight. I had to ride home in the dark like a ninja.


I got $8 for your light.


Safety tip: Don't wear dark clothing like a Ninja, especially since your $5 light is not bright.

Koyote 04-09-18 07:52 AM

If the light cost $5, you might as well ride home in the dark.

General Geoff 04-09-18 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20273374)
If the light cost $5, you might as well ride home in the dark.

A $5 LED headlight is plenty bright enough to be seen in the dark, which is its primary purpose.

Koyote 04-09-18 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by General Geoff (Post 20273378)
A $5 LED headlight is plenty bright enough to be seen in the dark, which is its primary purpose.

In this age of unprecedented levels of distracted driving, I use a 450 lumen flashing headlight in the daytime.

jimmie65 04-09-18 08:25 AM


Do bike light thieves ever consider human safety in their actions?
Thieves don't consider anything but themselves.

General Geoff 04-09-18 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20273385)
In this age of unprecedented levels of distracted driving, I use a 450 lumen flashing headlight in the daytime.

You need a much brighter light to be seen easily in daylight.

veganbikes 04-09-18 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20273385)
In this age of unprecedented levels of distracted driving, I use a 450 lumen flashing headlight in the daytime.

That is the worst way to go! Flashing white light is hard for people to see and can actually have the opposite effect to being visible. Always go solid when using white light.

Koyote 04-09-18 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by General Geoff (Post 20273585)
You need a much brighter light to be seen easily in daylight.

You're wrong about that, but it's not my job to convince you.

General Geoff 04-09-18 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20273808)
You're wrong about that, but it's not my job to convince you.

[citation needed]

Koyote 04-09-18 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20273808)
You're wrong about that, but it's not my job to convince you.


Originally Posted by General Geoff (Post 20273814)
[citation needed]

I don't need a cite, as I have daylight and two eyes.

But again, it's not my job to convince you. If you want to run a brighter light, have at it.

PdalPowr 04-09-18 10:53 AM

They used to hang horse thieves.:(

I'm just saying. :)


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