Harmful Chemicals in Plastic waterbottles debate ?
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Hi ,
I am on the verge of dropping some cash on stainless steel water bottles as I have read some pretty startling things about Plastic bottles .
Even Bpa free / phtalantes free bottles still seep harmful chemicals apparently .
As with everything on the internet it is hard to get objective facts .
Would drinking out of a plastic bottle long term be dangerous to health ? Do I have to throw out my hydration bladder too ?
Here is one article saying its all baloney . I'm confused it's hard to figure out.
https://chronicleflask.com/2018/02/1...is-bpa-really/
And another arguing the opposite ;
https://www.prevention.com/health/he...-not-be-so-bad
https://science.howstuffworks.com/en...cience/bpa.htm
I am on the verge of dropping some cash on stainless steel water bottles as I have read some pretty startling things about Plastic bottles .
Even Bpa free / phtalantes free bottles still seep harmful chemicals apparently .
As with everything on the internet it is hard to get objective facts .
Would drinking out of a plastic bottle long term be dangerous to health ? Do I have to throw out my hydration bladder too ?
Here is one article saying its all baloney . I'm confused it's hard to figure out.
https://chronicleflask.com/2018/02/1...is-bpa-really/
And another arguing the opposite ;
https://www.prevention.com/health/he...-not-be-so-bad
https://science.howstuffworks.com/en...cience/bpa.htm
Your second link is short, punchy, doesn't appear to be that well researched, although it does present information from "both sides" but draws a conclusion that isn't justified by the information given. It's just too much of a "fluff" piece to get much from it.
Your 3rd link seems to have a similar amount of research as the first and seems to draw a similar conclusion which can be summed up à la Douglas Adams: "Don't Panic".
Your last link is just the opposite of that and is written by someone who "saw [a] photo that changed my life." She is the very symbol of someone who is PANICKING!. She is Arthur Dent on steroids. That photo isn't of a bird that died because it ate a lot of plastic. The plastic looks like it was deposited in a bird skeleton by wave action. Yea, that's bad but it's not the cause of the poor birds demise.
Consider the first 3 articles and keep your bottles and Camelbak. From what the articles are saying, there's more BPA in cash resister receipts than in those bottles. And you can't squeeze a metal bottle.
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Boy that brings back some memories. I don't think I ever partook of the salt tablets, but I remember them. And I remember being told to not swallow much water when you were exercising - just swirl some around your mouth and swallow a little bit! In hindsight it's clear that some of the things we believed were pretty ridiculous (and potentially dangerous).
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I've been drinking from a vareity of plastic cycling bottles for over 50 yrs, yep, half a decade . Just dump the water, rinse after each ride, and I ain't got any problems . I'm 71 now, and still ride, 2K - 2.5k a year.KB
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This is why I choose the Apache way: keep a mouthful of water for the first 10 miles, without swallowing, then spit it out.
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Wait until you read one those articles about those hand dryers found in bathrooms and what they do with fecal matter.
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As long as you empty your plastic bottle, and fill it just before your ride, I don't think there's anything to worry about. The chemicals leach into the fluid in the bottle over a period of time...days and weeks. Over the course of a ride of just a few hours, I don't think there is much leaching.
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I doubt many people really do that, it has to be very expensive. Getting a reverse osmosis filter for your kitchen costs only a few hundred bucks and could save you a lot of health issues if your water ever gets "Flinted".
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No, I mean there are people actually selling unfiltered water claiming that it's good for you.
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+1 and I'm knocking on the door to 75. Rinse bottle and lid/spout whatever after every ride. Shake out water, invert on a paper towel and loosely screw on cap to let it dry asap.
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You're missing the point - your water is sitting in something before it comes out of your tap. Used to be water pipes were copper, nowadays a lot of them in new construction are plastic.
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Hi ,
I am on the verge of dropping some cash on stainless steel water bottles as I have read some pretty startling things about Plastic bottles .
Even Bpa free / phtalantes free bottles still seep harmful chemicals apparently .
As with everything on the internet it is hard to get objective facts .
Would drinking out of a plastic bottle long term be dangerous to health ? Do I have to throw out my hydration bladder too ?
Here is one article saying its all baloney . I'm confused it's hard to figure out.
https://chronicleflask.com/2018/02/1...is-bpa-really/
And another arguing the opposite ;
https://www.prevention.com/health/he...-not-be-so-bad
https://science.howstuffworks.com/en...cience/bpa.htm
I am on the verge of dropping some cash on stainless steel water bottles as I have read some pretty startling things about Plastic bottles .
Even Bpa free / phtalantes free bottles still seep harmful chemicals apparently .
As with everything on the internet it is hard to get objective facts .
Would drinking out of a plastic bottle long term be dangerous to health ? Do I have to throw out my hydration bladder too ?
Here is one article saying its all baloney . I'm confused it's hard to figure out.
https://chronicleflask.com/2018/02/1...is-bpa-really/
And another arguing the opposite ;
https://www.prevention.com/health/he...-not-be-so-bad
https://science.howstuffworks.com/en...cience/bpa.htm
Personally, I wouldn't worry about plastic bottles. More than likely the water you drink has passed through a few plastic pipes on it's way to your faucet, so avoiding plastic bottles seems rather superfluous. If you want the cleanest and safest, use glass. But, once again, the bottle may be cleaner than the water you are putting into it.
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Personally, I wouldn't worry about plastic bottles. More than likely the water you drink has passed through a few plastic pipes on it's way to your faucet, so avoiding plastic bottles seems rather superfluous. If you want the cleanest and safest, use glass. But, once again, the bottle may be cleaner than the water you are putting into it.
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Today, usually ketchup and mayo, maple syrup, honey, orange juice, seltzer and soda, etc is all stored, shipped, stocked in stores, and sold, in plastic bottles of some sort. Ice cream 'cartons' usually have a plastic lining. oh the madness
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Each one of those items you listed is packed in a different type of plastic.
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https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...ater%20Bottles
Purist bottles......
The ones on the above link are flexible for squeezing and coated with something that prevents any odor or contamination. Been using them on my weekly 100+ mile rides for a few years. Jus don't wash them in hot water or the dishwasher. That ruins the coating. They are not new. They do what they claim. Sold in a few different places, this is just a link that popped
up when I did a search. I use four large and reload them once for a total of 7 or 8 big bottles when riding over a century. Mine are at least 5 years old.
I have maybe 20 stainless bike bottles that are vacuum insulated. Maybe 7 or 8 different styles of bottle. I use them every week in the winter when it goes below freezing. No need to squeeze metal bottles, they have a little one way flapper valve built into the top. You just suck on the bottle and the air is let in. Some of my stainless bottles are least 15 years old. A few different ones are from "Thermos".
No need for plastic taste in bottles, and there are plenty of stainless bottles that don't need squeezing. There are hard plastic ones too. They can't be squeezed and don't have a valve either. They just have a large diameter hole. It works. Made by Nalgene.
Purist bottles......
The ones on the above link are flexible for squeezing and coated with something that prevents any odor or contamination. Been using them on my weekly 100+ mile rides for a few years. Jus don't wash them in hot water or the dishwasher. That ruins the coating. They are not new. They do what they claim. Sold in a few different places, this is just a link that popped
up when I did a search. I use four large and reload them once for a total of 7 or 8 big bottles when riding over a century. Mine are at least 5 years old.
I have maybe 20 stainless bike bottles that are vacuum insulated. Maybe 7 or 8 different styles of bottle. I use them every week in the winter when it goes below freezing. No need to squeeze metal bottles, they have a little one way flapper valve built into the top. You just suck on the bottle and the air is let in. Some of my stainless bottles are least 15 years old. A few different ones are from "Thermos".
No need for plastic taste in bottles, and there are plenty of stainless bottles that don't need squeezing. There are hard plastic ones too. They can't be squeezed and don't have a valve either. They just have a large diameter hole. It works. Made by Nalgene.
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You didn't read it right or you're not saying it right. So you might want to update your post. Nothing in that add said what you just said. ^^
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My go to for information on health effects of whatever is in the headlines today is Science Based Medicine. They come down firmly on the side of studies are all over the place, so nobody can say for sure. I feel I have bigger things to worry about, so I'll worry about those instead. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/bis...ould-we-worry/
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If you do some searching you can find all kinds of comments from the retailers. Now they're sold all over the place.
No need to change anything in my post..
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This is a little vague, but, scroll around, you might find something good.
Purist Technology - Specialized Water Bottles
Purist Technology - Specialized Water Bottles
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There are those who say that the nickel in stainless steel can cause cancer. That sounds nutty, and it probably is, but more than one doctor has recommended not to cook in stainless steel pots or pans, or use stainless utensils.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about plastic bottles. More than likely the water you drink has passed through a few plastic pipes on it's way to your faucet, so avoiding plastic bottles seems rather superfluous. If you want the cleanest and safest, use glass. But, once again, the bottle may be cleaner than the water you are putting into it.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about plastic bottles. More than likely the water you drink has passed through a few plastic pipes on it's way to your faucet, so avoiding plastic bottles seems rather superfluous. If you want the cleanest and safest, use glass. But, once again, the bottle may be cleaner than the water you are putting into it.
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I don't know for sure and I had the option to remove all doubt by using a good ss bottle. Doubt gone, problem solved. Except you cannot squirt at pursuing dogs