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Old 04-10-18, 01:13 PM
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New Bike Advice?

I'm looking to upgrade from my Schwinn Volare 1200. It has been a reliable and fun bike but I am looking to upgrade to something a little more legit. The current 2 bikes that are really interesting me are the Specialized Diverge E5 Sport and the Giant Anyroad 1. I'm interested in something that can handle some thicker tires for some rougher roads as I have a lot of gravel roads and unpaved bike trails around me and I am also interested in light touring capabilities as I want to try a weekend trip or two this year. I was wondering if the Anyroad 1 has rack mounts and if anyone had input on either of the two or any alternate suggestions for other bikes that may have what I'm looking for with similar pricing around $1200 or cheaper suggestions with similar quality componets.
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1st pick the Bike Shop, then get one of their bikes, bring or borrow measuring tools to then see what the clearances are in person..


you have dealers for those brands?
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
1st pick the Bike Shop, then get one of their bikes, bring or borrow measuring tools to then see what the clearances are in person..


you have dealers for those brands?
what he said
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Old 04-10-18, 01:41 PM
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yeah. one of the main reasons that I am looking at these to bikes is because LBS's carry them unfortunately they are carried by seperate shops so I can't compare them directly to each other but will have to travel between shops to do so. The brands carried by shops in my area are specialized, giant, cannondale, felt, jamis, moot, salsa, kona, and charge.
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Is there a shop that you prefer for service or other items? If so, go with that one assuming you like both bikes equally. Does either shop have a rental or demo program that would let you get a feel for each of the options?
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The Diverge E5 Comp is a good bike. Wife and I were considering that as an adventure/gravel/trail choice but wanted the added compliance (comfort) of a carbon frame, CG-R and hydraulic brakes. In the end we broke off another thousand ($1200) and opted for the Diverge Comp. Had to drive 6 hour round trip to get the size and color but we're not disappointed. Note: The Future Shock is not a gimmick, it really does work to smooth out the ride.

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Old 04-10-18, 02:49 PM
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I have never used either shop, the one I usually go to for service work doesnt stock much for bikes, they tend to order them to keep their overhead down but both shops I am looking at have great reviews. With K R's comment on the future shock it has me back to thinking I may just wait an extra week or two to save up the extra money to step up to the diverge e5 comp for the future shock. It's $600 more than I intended to spend but I think in the long run I will end up with a bike I am much happier with for years to come.
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Old 04-10-18, 03:06 PM
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The two models you mentioned are pretty similar, but the Giant is a little better equipped. For example, it has Shimano Tiagra components, which are a step up from the Shimano Sora parts on the Specialized. The Giant AnyRoad 2 has a Sora drivetrain like the Specialized Diverge E5 and is $200 less. The biggest difference you're likely to notice between Tiagra and Sora is one less cog on the rear wheel. They both work well.

From what I can discern, the AnyRoad has a single set of eyelets to mount a rear rack and/or fender, as does the Diverge.

The AnyRoad has LOTS of tire clearance. I've seen references stating a '14 Diverge will take up to 35 or 38 mm tires, which is plenty big for the riding you described. I don't know about the current model.

The AnyRoad has slightly longer chainstays, which will give you a little more heel clearance for panniers (bags) on the rear rack. Both bikes are adequate, though.

One thing that might be considered a plus for the Diverge is thru-axle hubs. The AnyRoad uses a traditional quick release.

For whatever it's worth -- just for comparison's sake, I guess -- the bike I use like you're describing is a 2011 Diamondback Steilacoom CCX. It's discontinued, but is a pretty basic entry-level cyclocross bike. I'm super happy with it for the type of riding you described. I've ridden on quite a bit of crushed limestone and dirt trails with rack & panniers and 28 mm tires. (When it's time to replace them, I might go with 32's.) The most comparable bike in their current lineup would probably be the Raleigh Willard 1. (The Raleigh & Diamondback brands are owned by the same company.) I don't know if they're still running their "corporate discount" offer, but if so, there's a coupon code that may knock quite a bit off the web site price -- which is already low at $899 for the 2017 model.
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As far as I know the Anyroad has no rack mounts (you could certainly find out on line) and I ma pretty sure that not many CF bikes have rack mounts.

Another consideration is bike-packing. I prefer conventional panniers, but if I had no way to get the bike I wanted and get a rack on it ... who knows?

(I just looked at an Anyroad ... it has eyelets above the dropouts, but nothing on the seat stays. You could use one of those seat-collar mounts i guess ....)
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
I just looked at an Anyroad ... it has eyelets above the dropouts, but nothing on the seat stays. You could use one of those seat-collar mounts i guess ....
On the AnyRoad models I looked at, there's a single threaded hole between the seat stays so that a rack can be mounted. It would be similar to attaching a rack to a brake caliper's mounting bolt, but without the caliper being there.
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Old 04-10-18, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
On the AnyRoad models I looked at, there's a single threaded hole between the seat stays so that a rack can be mounted. It would be similar to attaching a rack to a brake caliper's mounting bolt, but without the caliper being there.
okay thanks ... i was looking at a side view online.
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Old 04-10-18, 04:25 PM
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Raleigh Willard 4 has a 105 group, rack/fender mounts and 40c tires. $1140 with the corporate discount. Do a google search and you can find the corporate code, then use it and open an account on their website. It also works on the Diamondback website, they're part of the same company.

https://www.raleighusa.com/willard-150750

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Advice you say?

New bike advice you say? .. Bike thieves are spreading today around so I would like to suggest you to put a gps tracker atleast in the hidden part of your bike bro. trust me, I found mine right away when it was stolen. Luckily, the thief wasn't present when i got it back. if you would like to accept my suggestion bro, tell me, so I can tell you an accurate gps tracker device
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Old 04-11-18, 06:49 AM
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The Diverge does have rack mounts on both their carbon and alum versions. I waffled a little bit on which way I would go, but ultimately went with the alum version, as the dealer was confident that the carbon would handle our typical load of 20 pounds loaded on racks, but I figured why worry about that kind of failure, so went with alum. It will likely be a month or so before I do any touring on it.

It's a nice ride. I love the future shock on my Roubaix, but am equally ok without FS on my Diverge.
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If for touring, try the Jamis Aurora. You'll either love it or hate it. I hated it, because it was the wrong fit for me. Good price for an honest bike.

Good, but more expensive, Kona and Salsa. That is if you are interested in touring
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Originally Posted by Ryan Olivas View Post
New bike advice you say? .. Bike thieves are spreading today around so I would like to suggest you to put a gps tracker atleast in the hidden part of your bike bro. trust me, I found mine right away when it was stolen. Luckily, the thief wasn't present when i got it back. if you would like to accept my suggestion bro, tell me, so I can tell you an accurate gps tracker device
What device is that? I badly need one 'cause the incident also occurred to me but unlike yours, I never found it. I'll kindly wait for your reply.
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You might want to throw a Jamis Renegade into the mix.
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"gravel roads and unpaved bike trails around me and I am also interested in light touring capabilities as I want to try a weekend trip or two this year"

The AWOL is made for this specific purpose and the Sequoia is a little more versatile and has all the mounts you could possibly want.
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yeah. one of the main reasons that I am looking at these to bikes is because LBS's carry them unfortunately they are carried by seperate shops so I can't compare them directly to each other but will have to travel between shops to do so. The brands carried by shops in my area are specialized, giant, cannondale, felt, jamis, moot, salsa, kona, and charge.
If you're a newbie in cycling forget about the brand. It seems ironic when I say this with a Bontrager logo as my avatar. I have just found over the years that I like Bontrager's theories about bikes. His well-known quote is, “strong, light, cheap, pick two.” For you its probably cheap and light or cheap and light that will guide you. But that said a brand is It's just a sticker on a bike. These days a lot of the time they don't even put a clear coat over the top of it. Don't get sucked in by your friends who all ride Specialized if you want to ride a Merida or whatever else.

Develop a relationship with your local bike shop and become friends with them. Forget about which sticker is on a bike and go for the one with the best customer service. If you have a good relationship with one already use that one. The fact that they're a Specialized dealer that can't get you a Giant is kind of irrelevant. They all come out of very similar factories in Asia these days unless you want to spend a lot of money on a bike no bike shop will have just sitting on their floor

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Thanks everyone for your advice. I was checking out a couple LBS with my day off yesterday and actually ended up buying a Masi CX Comp. Had all the mounts I wanted, steel frame, Tiagra componet set and because it was the last one they had it was discounted to under $900. Was able to get everything I wanted out of the bike plus shoes, cleats, and pedals for less than I was originally planning to spend and I have a free tune-up coming and all the other benefit of using a LBS rather than purchasing it online. Only got to take it out for a mile or two by the time I got home but really digging the look and feel so far, other than potentially needing a new saddle in the near future.
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Looks nice.
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Nice bike! Seems like a great fit for the riding you plan on doing, and has provisions for everything you might want to use. Lowrider rack mounts on the fork, even.

My only suggestion, other than to ride the heck out of the thing, would be to pick up a set of slick tires for riding on pavement. On the road, those Kenda Small Block Eight knobbies will make you feel like you're riding through molasses. Bumpy molasses.
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Originally Posted by cvictorh View Post
Thanks everyone for your advice. I was checking out a couple LBS with my day off yesterday and actually ended up buying a Masi CX Comp. Had all the mounts I wanted, steel frame, Tiagra componet set and because it was the last one they had it was discounted to under $900. Was able to get everything I wanted out of the bike plus shoes, cleats, and pedals for less than I was originally planning to spend and I have a free tune-up coming and all the other benefit of using a LBS rather than purchasing it online. Only got to take it out for a mile or two by the time I got home but really digging the look and feel so far, other than potentially needing a new saddle in the near future.
It looks cool, but then I like the look of traditional bike frames over aggressive ones. I'm gonna mirror the above. You're going to want a set of wheels with slick tyres eventually for riding on the road.
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Thanks for the advice on the tires. Definitely something I will look into but for now between the rig and picking up the garmin 520 my budget has ran dry for a bit.
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I think the OP is talking about a bike like this: https://masibikes.com/products/cx-comp-2017
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