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JA TREK 05-03-18 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by beachball42 (Post 20320231)
Winds are unavoidable here in Indiana. What I try to do is alter my route on windy days but it never fails that I at some point am riding into a strong headwind. I also have a Trek Hybrid (Verve 2) and it has probably the widest tires and I have thought about putting some narrower ones on it now that I've logged more miles with it. However, I do ride some gravel trails so the wider tires are nice for that. Guess it just depends on how and where you ride. Looks like a nice ride.

I ride on roads, but many of the roads here in NY are so choppy, with potholes and debris it can feel like off-roading at times. In the picture shown, I took a little pitstop at a nearby creek to cool off. How do you like your Verve?
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Originally Posted by u235 (Post 20320244)
Been 10-30 mph winds here since January. Somehow no matter the direction of it or me, it was head on most of the time. This weeks rides were with a 0-3 mph wind and it was amazing.
You can feel the wind and no need to confirm with stats but they confirm it too. Same hill, one with very little wind, the other with 20 mph, 3 days apart.
Speed 17.4mi/h
Cadence 91
Heart Rate 143 bpm

Speed 12.1mi/h
Cadence 95
Heart Rate 158 bpm

I think it's pretty awesome to see the stats. You still kept at a good speed with the 20 mph wind! I bet those non windy days went smooth lol.


Originally Posted by DomaneS5 (Post 20320251)
I'd rather ride in sub-freezing temps with little or no wind than deal with sustained wind over 15+ MPH. The cold.. I don't mind. The wind... I despise.

I can understand why you aren't a fan of the wind after my ride yesterday lol. The cold tends to bother my equalibrium.


Originally Posted by WNCGoater (Post 20320309)
^^this^^

Rode a tour last month, big loop in eastern NC & down the Outer Banks. Second day over 50 miles right into a NNE headwind. No problem, tomorrow I'm headed south. Next day wind shifted directly out of the east so I was hit broadside for over 50 miles. Following day I turn SW. Yep, wind shifted to SW & for the next two days I rode right into the wind. Okay, last day I'm headed NNW so at least the wind will be sort of quartering from the rear. Nope, shifted west and hit me broadside for the last 45 miles.

Meh, wind is part of riding. It has no malicious intent, no conscience, no will of its own. It's just there, like hills. You just look at it as part of the overall picture and keep pedaling.

Awesome rides, and good point about the wind. It is just there like everything else. I will keep that in my mind the next time I'm out on a gusty day!
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Originally Posted by DomaneS5 (Post 20320326)
In my experience, cross winds (from the side) are more annoying than head winds. I'd rather ride directly into the wind than have it gusting at me from the side.

Fully agree with this! I was on a super busy road yesterday when the cross winds stuck. Definitely felt like I was being pushed over at times between the wind, and the big tractor trailers flying by lol.

JA TREK 05-03-18 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by jefnvk (Post 20320433)
Don't ever go cycling in Iceland then! But yeah, it sucks. My first after work ride of the year on Tuesday dealt with a 15-20MPH headwind on the way back, was not prepared.



This, +1000.

I wasn't prepared either. Not that it was a huge deal or bother, but definitely worked my legs harder then I'm used to lol.


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20320481)
Wind is a fact of life.

Parked cars, dogs, traffic, sudden rain showers in summer, an occasional flat tire, pot holes, heat, cold, running out of daylight, red lights... Might as well complain that the sky is blue.

My only complaint is that cyclists complain too much. :p

On a particularly windy weekend here in Atlanta the complaints got so bad that [MENTION=25235]BluesDawg[/MENTION] posted a ride on Strava with the title "Yeah, we all know its windy." I LoLoLoL'd.

Ride where you live and while you are still alive. Relax and enjoy it.


-Tim-

Very true! This was my first wind encounter, and I was surprised to feel how much work it was. Made me have even more respect for the advanced cyclists!

beachball42 05-03-18 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=JA TREK;20320490]I ride on roads, but many of the roads here in NY are so choppy, with potholes and debris it can feel like off-roading at times. In the picture shown, I took a little pitstop at a nearby creek to cool off. How do you like your Verve?
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I'm really liking it so far. I upgraded the grips to Ergon GP5's and those have made a big difference in comfort and no hand or wrist pain on longer rides. Everything else on it is stock. I'm using it for casual rides and this week I bike commuted to work twice on it and it worked fine. I did just order a Topeak rack and trunk bag that I'll install this weekend. For true trail riding I have a Trek 4900 MTB that I use. The Verve definitely is a little rougher ride than my MTB due to the lack of suspension but I'm mainly riding it on roads and MUP's so its not been a big issue unless I'm going over some rough patches. Handles and rolls pretty good.

RonH 05-03-18 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by JA TREK (Post 20319516)
"Newbie" here. This afternoon was absolutely beautiful in NY. It was sunny, in the 80s, and there was a nice breeze...or so I thought. :lol:

​​​​​​First let me start by saying that it went from winter to sunny and 80* overnight (typical for my state). As I headed out, my anxiety tried to get the best of me because of the heat. I ignored it and pushed through. The 20 mph wind gusts on the other hand lol. I wasn't aware of the resistance you get from the wind. I guess I hadn't given it much thought. It was just as hard as climbing if not worse haha. Anyhow I went 10 miles and got 328 ft gain.

You know what they say about the wind.

Climbing makes you strong.
Distance makes you lean.
Intervals make you fast,
but the wind makes you MEAN!!

Hit or Miss 05-03-18 02:46 PM

Monday I stopped for a touring cyclist pushing his bike down the road here in the middle of Kansas. I thought maybe he was broke down and needed a hand. After telling me the wind pushed him into the ditch 3 times he begged a short ride. I got him to the next stretch of road so he could get a tailwind for a while and sent him on his way! I really feel for those guys running cross country and hitting weather like we've had this week.

caloso 05-03-18 03:16 PM

Yep. If you can't ride in the wind, you can't ride in Sacramento. Especially this time of year. Most riders I know plan their training rides so as to do the meat of the work into the wind, then enjoy the tailwind for the cool down on the way home.

Paul Barnard 05-03-18 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by hillyman (Post 20319991)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...30ff15dc9.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...609ed73f3.jpeg
Origin8 drop bar ends a cheap way to try out drop handlebars on your flatbar hybrid. They really helped against wind on my mountain bike.

I have those on two of my bikes and love them. I have foam grips on mine for extra padding.

https://s14.postimg.cc/my53g09v5/DSC00697.jpg
picture share

Paul Barnard 05-03-18 03:41 PM

I hate the wind. It's so demoralizing to me. I much prefer mountains. With mountains you can see what you are fighting, then when you get to the top you can look back at what you conquered. There is no such satisfaction dealing with the wind. Mountains even have categories to make us feel better about our conquest. Screw the wind.

BlazingPedals 05-03-18 04:29 PM

My bike loves the headwinds. It doesn't like climbing so much; but part of that is because it has to carry 200+ lbs of me up every one of them.

hillyman 05-03-18 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 20321178)
I have those on two of my bikes and love them. I have foam grips on mine for extra padding.


actually I have these Vincita's on mine. But had to order from overseas. I had the Origin8s but didn't like the band at end of bars.https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e9cd2f5d0.jpg

natnatroswell22 05-03-18 09:47 PM

I actually skip cycling during windy season, it's too rough to fight with mad winds :D

canklecat 05-03-18 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 20320602)
You know what they say about the wind.

Climbing makes you strong.
Distance makes you lean.
Intervals make you fast,
but the wind makes you MEAN!!

Seems to be too true. I've noticed that drivers in my area are meaner when it's windy.

Hard to be certain since I'm expecting bad behavior, so perhaps I see it more, but I'm very careful riding in traffic in heavy wind that comes before storms. The past couple of days in particular I'm seeing more overtly aggressive driving, including a truck that nearly ran down one of my neighbors just an hour ago outside. I was walking home and saw the truck deliberately brush-by the neighbor as he crossed the street. Several times the past few days I've seen vehicles pass within a foot of me on unnecessarily dangerous turns -- drivers who are too lazy to make proper turns and cut diagonally into the opposing traffic lane or pedestrian crosswalk. In daylight you can clearly see the drivers looking at you and they look angry. It's a bizarre passive-aggressive behavior too many drivers exhibit, forcing unnecessary confrontations the dramatically increase risk, including cutting off fellow drivers who signal to change lanes, or swerving across three lanes of traffic to brush-by pass pedestrians and cyclists.

There's a theory dating back decades that heavy wind accompanies changes in ions and barometric pressure changes that influence human behavior.

One of the more interesting movies I've seen, The Mean Season (1985), is based around a serial killer's escalating violence during Florida's hurricane season. But the movie never really emphasizes any connection between the weather and human behavior, beyond a few casual remarks early in the film. I've watched it several times since first seeing it in the theater. Overall it's a good but pedestrian '80s movie, but Richard Jordan plays one of the all-time great movie villains, an underrated performance by a versatile actor who died too young. I'd rank his portrayal of a killer above the more infamous Zodiac killer played by Andy Robinson in Dirty Harry.

So while I don't avoid riding my bike in the wind, I'm much more alert.

Patriot1 05-03-18 11:47 PM

Cool photo and nice bike! Grew up in the Catskill Mountains...Spring was always a welcome sight.

BeachBunny 05-04-18 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by JA TREK (Post 20319516)
"Newbie" here. This afternoon was absolutely beautiful in NY. It was sunny, in the 80s, and there was a nice breeze...or so I thought. :lol:

​​​​​​First let me start by saying that it went from winter to sunny and 80* overnight (typical for my state). As I headed out, my anxiety tried to get the best of me because of the heat. I ignored it and pushed through. The 20 mph wind gusts on the other hand lol. I wasn't aware of the resistance you get from the wind. I guess I hadn't given it much thought. It was just as hard as climbing if not worse haha. Anyhow I went 10 miles and got 328 ft gain.

I was able to get a quick picture when I stopped at the beautiful creek a few miles from my house. Here I am with my little white bike! :p

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f4ebc39ac.jpg

Hi. Nice pic. I’m a newbie too. Sounds like we’re at the same place. I do 10 miles in the mornings trying to build up my strength and endurance. This time of year in Florida we tend to have light winds with the occasional brief, stronger gust. They surprise me sometimes and I get blown around a little bit.

mennov 05-04-18 06:22 AM

I've been fighting wind and rain on a daily basis and every day I think I hate this wind. But than you go home and the wind is behind you and giving you a push in the right direction. That is a great feeling. We dont have mountains so cant really compare.

Milton Keynes 05-04-18 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Wheever (Post 20319827)
Tail winds are a myth.

No they're not. It's just that the tailwind you're looking forward to on the return trip changes direction.

BlazingPedals 05-04-18 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 20322024)
No they're not. It's just that the tailwind you're looking forward to on the return trip changes direction.

I think it's a reference to the observation, "There are no such things as tailwinds, there's headwinds, and there's good days." When we're cruising effortlessly down the road, we'd rather chalk it up to our superior conditioning, than to think we're getting help from the wind.

JA TREK 05-04-18 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Patriot1 (Post 20321697)
Cool photo and nice bike! Grew up in the Catskill Mountains...Spring was always a welcome sight.

Thanks! It has been such a long winner this year. Or maybe it just seems that way because I've been so desperate to get out on the roads and ifo the trainer lol.


Originally Posted by BeachBunny (Post 20321789)


Hi. Nice pic. I’m a newbie too. Sounds like we’re at the same place. I do 10 miles in the mornings trying to build up my strength and endurance. This time of year in Florida we tend to have light winds with the occasional brief, stronger gust. They surprise me sometimes and I get blown around a little bit.

Hi there! I was surprised at first as well. Especially with the side winds. Hold on and pedal through lol. Pretty cool we're about at the same point. Would love to hear updates about your progress!



Originally Posted by mennov (Post 20321826)
I've been fighting wind and rain on a daily basis and every day I think I hate this wind. But than you go home and the wind is behind you and giving you a push in the right direction. That is a great feeling. We dont have mountains so cant really compare.

I rode in the light rain yesterday myself. I agree when it's not a direct hit from the wind is actually kinda nice!


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 20322024)
No they're not. It's just that the tailwind you're looking forward to on the return trip changes direction.

:)


Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 20322631)
I think it's a reference to the observation, "There are no such things as tailwinds, there's headwinds, and there's good days." When we're cruising effortlessly down the road, we'd rather chalk it up to our superior conditioning, than to think we're getting help from the wind.

Makes sense!

JA TREK 05-04-18 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Hit or Miss (Post 20321092)
Monday I stopped for a touring cyclist pushing his bike down the road here in the middle of Kansas. I thought maybe he was broke down and needed a hand. After telling me the wind pushed him into the ditch 3 times he begged a short ride. I got him to the next stretch of road so he could get a tailwind for a while and sent him on his way! I really feel for those guys running cross country and hitting weather like we've had this week.

Holy smokes! I feel bad for them as well. Very kind of you to drop for him!


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 20321142)
Yep. If you can't ride in the wind, you can't ride in Sacramento. Especially this time of year. Most riders I know plan their training rides so as to do the meat of the work into the wind, then enjoy the tailwind for the cool down on the way home.

Nice! It's pretty interesting learning about the weather tends in different locations.


Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 20321182)
I hate the wind. It's so demoralizing to me. I much prefer mountains. With mountains you can see what you are fighting, then when you get to the top you can look back at what you conquered. There is no such satisfaction dealing with the wind. Mountains even have categories to make us feel better about our conquest. Screw the wind.

Haha! Good points there.


Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 20321244)
My bike loves the headwinds. It doesn't like climbing so much; but part of that is because it has to carry 200+ lbs of me up every one of them.

:p


Originally Posted by canklecat (Post 20321676)
Seems to be too true. I've noticed that drivers in my area are meaner when it's windy.

Hard to be certain since I'm expecting bad behavior, so perhaps I see it more, but I'm very careful riding in traffic in heavy wind that comes before storms. The past couple of days in particular I'm seeing more overtly aggressive driving, including a truck that nearly ran down one of my neighbors just an hour ago outside. I was walking home and saw the truck deliberately brush-by the neighbor as he crossed the street. Several times the past few days I've seen vehicles pass within a foot of me on unnecessarily dangerous turns -- drivers who are too lazy to make proper turns and cut diagonally into the opposing traffic lane or pedestrian crosswalk. In daylight you can clearly see the drivers looking at you and they look angry. It's a bizarre passive-aggressive behavior too many drivers exhibit, forcing unnecessary confrontations the dramatically increase risk, including cutting off fellow drivers who signal to change lanes, or swerving across three lanes of traffic to brush-by pass pedestrians and cyclists.

There's a theory dating back decades that heavy wind accompanies changes in ions and barometric pressure changes that influence human behavior.

One of the more interesting movies I've seen, The Mean Season (1985), is based around a serial killer's escalating violence during Florida's hurricane season. But the movie never really emphasizes any connection between the weather and human behavior, beyond a few casual remarks early in the film. I've watched it several times since first seeing it in the theater. Overall it's a good but pedestrian '80s movie, but Richard Jordan plays one of the all-time great movie villains, an underrated performance by a versatile actor who died too young. I'd rank his portrayal of a killer above the more infamous Zodiac killer played by Andy Robinson in Dirty Harry.

So while I don't avoid riding my bike in the wind, I'm much more alert.

Very interesting!! I know I certainly feel changes in barometric pressure. I get dizzy and or headaches. I agree about how sad this world has gotten with passive aggressive jerks. I swear I had a truck intentionally swerve towards me the other day. It's really a shame. I'm constantly looking in my mirror. When I see them start to move over I feel relieved, but some of them get so close. That movie sounds like a good one!

JA TREK 05-04-18 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=beachball42;20320539]

Originally Posted by JA TREK (Post 20320490)
I ride on roads, but many of the roads here in NY are so choppy, with potholes and debris it can feel like off-roading at times. In the picture shown, I took a little pitstop at a nearby creek to cool off. How do you like your Verve?
​​
I'm really liking it so far. I upgraded the grips to Ergon GP5's and those have made a big difference in comfort and no hand or wrist pain on longer rides. Everything else on it is stock. I'm using it for casual rides and this week I bike commuted to work twice on it and it worked fine. I did just order a Topeak rack and trunk bag that I'll install this weekend. For true trail riding I have a Trek 4900 MTB that I use. The Verve definitely is a little rougher ride than my MTB due to the lack of suspension but I'm mainly riding it on roads and MUP's so its not been a big issue unless I'm going over some rough patches. Handles and rolls pretty good.

Awesome that you've been commuting to work by bike. The Trek mountain bike sounds nice as well! Glad you like the Verve!


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 20320602)
You know what they say about the wind.

Climbing makes you strong.
Distance makes you lean.
Intervals make you fast,
but the wind makes you MEAN!!

Lol nice!


Originally Posted by natnatroswell22 (Post 20321609)
I actually skip cycling during windy season, it's too rough to fight with mad winds :D

Lol! :lol:

mcours2006 05-04-18 06:47 PM

Okay, you want to talk about wind. It was a windy day already, perhaps 40 km/h side winds. Very tough. About the halfway point it picked up and then the rain came. Gusts were apparently up to 80 km/h and whipping the rain sideways. :eek: I could literally see the next gust coming by the rain hitting the ground, like in buckets. I had to take shelter behind a Costco for ten minutes until the storm passed. It just wasn't safe to ride under these conditions. The panniers loaded with groceries didn't help matters.:(

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0bcf4a5d90.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...46e43e94ab.jpg
Funny enough, the sky cleared right up after, and the wind died down to about 30 km/h.

bigsky109 05-04-18 08:32 PM

Winds are bad up here too. I had 35MPH winds the other day. Into the wind wasn't too bad, with the wind was better, sidewinds about blew me off the road!. Have to pay attention when riding side winds.

Ryderr 05-10-18 04:39 PM

I try to do laps when it’s windy so I’m not heading into it for that long. (If it’s a cold wind it’s really miserable. If it’s a hot wind it’s just annoying.)

IslandTimePE 05-10-18 04:50 PM

Wind is a factor on mot rides in my neck of the woods. If it is really blowing, I try to plan my routes so I start out going into the wind and have a tailwind on the way back. The wind keeps me humble on the way out so I don't get the idea I am stronger than I really am. :cry:

SylvainG 05-10-18 07:55 PM

This is from my personal weather station at home. First half of my afternoon ride is West bound, Average wind was above 20 km/h with 40 km/h gusts. Couldn't wait 'til I turned East, made up for the time I lost combating the wind :)

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b4806410f2.png


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