yycwrangler

veganbikes

I would recommend the ABUS Bordo Granit X-Plus it folds up really nice and comes with a carrying case that can easily mount to the bike and it is very high security. I have sold quite a few with e-bikes and with nicer regular bikes or people locking up for a while. Having too small of a shackle makes it hard to lock to certain things and with e-bikes generally being a bit thicker and bigger it can be hard to use the smaller shackles. The New York STD would be a better shackle length choice but I would again go to the ABUS Granit X-Plus locks for best security. Their nicer stuff is made in Germany from virgin steel that has been specially treated to be very strong and fairly light as well. Also they use double locking mechanism so you have to cut through both sides of the lock unlike other lock brands that just lock to one side.

fietsbob

For Further reach, they have a longer bar one, now, 6500 Big.. 4#

but I don't like their carry bracket as well , so I put it in my pannier ,

blakcloud

The NY mini Forgetaboutit will not go between the rear wheel seat tube and a sign post, at least not with my bike. Maybe if your rear wheel sits really close to the seat tube you might get it to work. Currently I lock my back wheel to my frame using that lock and I do the same with the front wheel and frame with a second one. I then use a Kryptonite Evolution to lock to the bike rack as it has more length. I think Veganbikes made a good suggestion using the Abus Bordo lock as it has great protection and is more versatile.

KraneXL

Yes, but its a snug fit, so you may have to do some finagling to get it on and off (see profile). Just keep in mind that locks are to keep honest people honest. They won't stop a bike thief.

asmac

I have one and use it for short term, reasonably low-risk lock-ups. Unfortunately they are not terribly thief-resistant. There is a video -- -- of these locks being easily broken at the joints with a nut-splitter and a wrench.

rm -rf

Ha, that's the "lock picking lawyer". He has unusual methods for defeating locks, some quite slow, others very fast.

I saw this one that breaks a very strong padlock with a portable nail gun powered by a 22 shell. The youtube video.
I suppose this only works if the padlock is braced on a solid surface.

blakcloud

Thanks for posting this video. It convinced me that this is the lock I need! How many thieves are going to own and carry around a nut-splitter? Angle grinder yes, even bolt cutters but not a nut-splitter. Abus Bordo locks are not that common in Toronto, so the likelihood that a bicycle thief even owns this tool is too small for me to even care. There isn't a lock in this world that cannot be penetrated in some way so videos like this are a poor way to try and prove a point. Even the Kryptonite New York locks can be compromised, you just need to make your bike harder to steal than the one beside it.

By his name, my guess the OP is in Calgary where Bordo locks are not common so I think it is still a good lock. Also looked at the Cube E-Bikes and I am even more convinced that the mini New York lock will not fit around everything he/she needs to protect their bike.

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fietsbob

Might be better to not live in a place with rampant bike theft by people that bring heavy duty tools..

Marcus_Ti

Sadly, uninhabited islands aren't too common in these parts. Also I like having running water and electricity.

fietsbob

Not such an industrious group of thugs in the oldest fishing port on the US pacific coast..

Furandi

tyrion

Depends on the bike. You have to measure that area on your bike and compare it with the lock's inner dimensions. I believe the dimensions listed are the inner dimensions of the shackle:

U-lock Comparison - The Best Bike Lock

tyrion

I've known homeless people in San Francisco whose prize possession was a bicycle multitool. (Not to imply most homeless are thieves, but for some, Brooks saddles were their main income. They could take one off in a few seconds. If the saddle was locked down to the frame with a piece of old bicycle chain, it would take them a couple more seconds to break that chain.)

fietsbob

Astoria is a Lot cheaper to live in, too..

ColonelSanders

Did you even watch the video?


Not only did he need to use a vice to hold the lock, when the lock was defeated, the rivet exploded off like a bullet.

What thief wants to risk an potential serious injury from an exploding rivet and has a fixed vice that they can use where you have locked your bike.

Marcus_Ti

True. They would probably just use a battery powered angle grinder

ColonelSanders

Yes, against an angle grinder is where the folding locks are truly at their weakest.

Whilst an angle grinder can defeat any U-lock, even the strongest Bordo folding lock will be defeated by an angle grinder in about a quarter of the time it takes to get through a good U-lock.

KraneXL

In case I wasn't clear before or it hasn't sunk in to every bike owner by now, a "bike thief" carries an entire arsenal of tools in his backpack to defeat ANY lock. And he can do so in less time than it takes you to unlock your own bike with the combination or the key.

Locks will protect your bike from the thief of opportunity, not the pro.

davidallenxyz

+ one billion for this!

This is what an insurance policy is for. If you can't even consider the possibility of property being stolen, you shouldn't own it in the first place.

yycwrangler

Marcus_Ti

Since you purchased a Kryptonite....READ the TOS for the warranty. Beware that I've known no one in real life, or even online (yet), who claims to have had a successful claim through Kryptonite. It is a byzantine maze of legal falderal written specifically to make it next to impossible for them to have to pay a claim....their warranty sounds great in ad-copy, but IRL is basically worthless.

Their locks, too, are cracked open by pro thieves all the time. 9/10 rating is irrelevant IRL to thieves.

yycwrangler

Marcus_Ti

It isn't that the Kryptonite lock itself isn't good. It is just the warranty isn't worth the paper it is printed on in practice.

Any lock you can buy can be compromised in about 30 to 1 minute seconds with a battery powered angle grinder. And even in broad daylight, passers-by will not stop a bike-theft-in-progress.