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Old 05-18-18, 07:12 AM
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Wheel mfg question

Not sure if this is the correct place but looking for info on wheel sets for a clyde rider. I know of Vuetela and Velocity wheels any other place that makes road wheels for fat guys. Anybody have any feedback on these brands or any other. Looking for a better set of 700 wheels.

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You can't go wrong going to your local wheel builder and have some custom wheels made. Extremely heavy, get 40 spoke, really heavy 36 spoke etc etc. Going to a wheel builder allows you to purchase each piece separately, rim, spokes and hubs and get exactly what you need.
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You can't go wrong going to your local wheel builder and have some custom wheels made. Extremely heavy, get 40 spoke, really heavy 36 spoke etc etc. Going to a wheel builder allows you to purchase each piece separately, rim, spokes and hubs and get exactly what you need.
I do agree but I have a set of "LBS" built wheels and they are not so good. they are not holding very well. I know on paper they are fine for me but the builders skill is the issue. that is why I am looking elsewhere.
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Manufacturing a wheel automates the tensioning of all the spokes at once .
so bike factories and big wholesale companies supplying shops across the country have those.. Machines.
get a discount wheel, online it was probably produced that way.

How many wheels do you need? 50?

a supplier to bike shops, like QBP, can ship built wheels using any parts in their inventory,
those back rooms have people who are just wheelbuilders .. one after another

for touring reliability, I built 700c wheels with a 48 spoke rear, 40 spoke front..


ask for an overbuilt wheel ?





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I bought some wheels from Psimet this Spring that have held up well so far. I weigh 220, and they are "rated" up to 240.

I also was exploring November and Neugent, and they had wheels fine for my weight, too.
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Originally Posted by Dirt Farmer View Post
I bought some wheels from Psimet this Spring that have held up well so far. I weigh 220, and they are "rated" up to 240.

I also was exploring November and Neugent, and they had wheels fine for my weight, too.
thanks, never heard of Neugent
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We had Velocity rebuild the wheels on our tandem with one of their more robust rims, Atlas. 20"/406 , 36h front, 26"/559, 40h rear. Both on Velocity hubs. Neither of us are extra large, but there are 2 of us on a 45+ pound bike. Atlas rim also available in 700c/622.
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Several local builders' wheels and most of them suck. Find a good builder.

Velocity Deep V rims or equivalent (30 mm deep)......... 32 spoke rear, 28 front.

Find a good builder and avoid all that madness about 40 spoke wheels.
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If you don't mind getting them shipped to you, check out Peter White. Lifetime guarantee, and he will build as strong a wheel as you desire.
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36 hole 4 cross, double butted spokes wit a decent rim and a good builder and you should be fine. Works for me in any situation.
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Originally Posted by General Geoff View Post
If you don't mind getting them shipped to you, check out Peter White. Lifetime guarantee, and he will build as strong a wheel as you desire.
Thanks, emailed him.
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So let me ask this: Is Velocity Wheels decent for a mass produced wheel? they have some pretty good claims as far as strong and such. Anybody have them or experience with them?
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Originally Posted by sdmc530 View Post
I do agree but I have a set of "LBS" built wheels and they are not so good. they are not holding very well. I know on paper they are fine for me but the builders skill is the issue. that is why I am looking elsewhere.
This is a good point. You could look at Sugar Wheel Works, they only do wheels and have a great reputation.

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So let me ask this: Is Velocity Wheels decent for a mass produced wheel? they have some pretty good claims as far as strong and such. Anybody have them or experience with them?
I have two sets of Velocity wheels and they have been bombproof for me. My wife also has a pair but she weighs next to nothing so I wouldn't use her experience as a data point. The wheels that I go were great value.

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Besides the wheels Velocity rebuilt for our tandem, I have 'mass produced' Velocity wheels with Aeroheat rims on the other two bikes I ride. More than a few years with no problems.
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Originally Posted by sdmc530 View Post
Not sure if this is the correct place but looking for info on wheel sets for a clyde rider. I know of Vuetela and Velocity wheels any other place that makes road wheels for fat guys. Anybody have any feedback on these brands or any other. Looking for a better set of 700 wheels.

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prowheelbuilder.com

you pick the rim, spokes, hub, and nips. They build and send.
fantastic quality for the price.

i am 235# and got h+son archetype wheels with butted spokes and bitex hubs. 28 front and 32 rear. $430 shipped to be.

another option is velomine. They have 36h butted spoke 105 and ultegra hub wheelsets for great prices. $220 and $275 respectively.
i have 36h 105 hubs with butted spokes and archetype rims on my gravel bike and they have been excellent for 2 years.
machine built though.
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Originally Posted by sdmc530 View Post
So let me ask this: Is Velocity Wheels decent for a mass produced wheel? they have some pretty good claims as far as strong and such. Anybody have them or experience with them?
Velocity has a wheelhouse in house and they have actual builders building wheels. I don't think even their own cheaper built wheels are machine made. I could be wrong on that but I think all of their stuff is built by hand.

Peter White is a wealth of knowledge and a skilled wheel builder. Bill Mould is also a great guy to talk with as well, he built my touring wheels and they have been fantastic and I am not a lightweight and I don't go lightweight on my gear neither. 32 Sapim Strong Spokes and Secure Lock nipples on Paul hubs laced to WTB Frequency CX rims (Disc) granted you cannot get the Paul rear cassette hub but Phil Wood or White Industries or Chris King or Industry Nine (who used to make the freehubs for the Paul cassette hubs) would be acceptable options.
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Thanks for the replies all. I have sent out emails to most everyone you all suggested. I had more options that I thought I would.

Going through all this info has been been very educational too
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How heavy?

I'm 200-210 depending on when you ask. I have Campagnolo Scirocco 35s and Fulcrum Racing Quattro LGs and they simply stay true. The hubs are super easy to service too.

​​​Just have the spoke tension checked once a year, depends on how and how much you ride, and you'll be fine. Any good lbs will do that for you for cheap.
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Cassette, derailleur rear wheels are already less than best because of the dissimilar spoke tensions Aka Dish..

Dishless IGH wheels have an advantage there..
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How heavy?

I'm 200-210 depending on when you ask. I have Campagnolo Scirocco 35s and Fulcrum Racing Quattro LGs and they simply stay true. The hubs are super easy to service too.

​​​Just have the spoke tension checked once a year, depends on how and how much you ride, and you'll be fine. Any good lbs will do that for you for cheap.
all ready to roll pockets full or crap I am about 280ish....
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I bought some tubular wheels from these guys a couple of months ago, the build quality is outstanding and their Pure brand rims are very nice.

These are their strongest ones but they have lots of other options. Click the "coupon" link at the bottom for discount codes.

Pure Tour Shimano 700c Wheel Set
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Originally Posted by sdmc530 View Post
Not sure if this is the correct place but looking for info on wheel sets for a clyde rider. I know of Vuetela and Velocity wheels any other place that makes road wheels for fat guys. Anybody have any feedback on these brands or any other. Looking for a better set of 700 wheels.

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Hunt sells a couple Super Dura models marketed this way:
https://www.huntbikewheels.com/colle...2F%20%2F%2032R
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene View Post
Hunt sells a couple Super Dura models marketed this way:
https://www.huntbikewheels.com/colle...2F%20%2F%2032R
Thanks, I will check them out. Lower spoke count does scare me a bit though.....
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
I bought some tubular wheels from these guys a couple of months ago, the build quality is outstanding and their Pure brand rims are very nice.

These are their strongest ones but they have lots of other options. Click the "coupon" link at the bottom for discount codes.

Pure Tour Shimano 700c Wheel Set
I am liking these too. Just sent off an email to them. I have 105 on my bike so "matching" is pretty attractive too.....thanks for the link.
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Thanks, I will check them out. Lower spoke count does scare me a bit though.....
These are I think 28F/32R, so not sure what you're comparing to. FWIW, a wheel consists of spokes and rims.. so you can have combos of the below qualities.. spoke count all by itself really doesn't mean a lot. Eg, not recommending for you, but a fulcrum3 wheel is rated for up to a 240lb rider and is only 16/21 spoked.

Strong/stiff rims + strong stiff spokes
Weakass rims + weakass spokes
Strong rims + weak spokes
Weak Rims + strong spokes
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