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Stop playing the idiot when they tell you it's from "Asia"!

Old 06-20-18, 10:39 PM
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Stop playing the idiot when they tell you it's from "Asia"!

Hello all,

It's been awhile since I've posted here and it's really cause I've been out of the loop on the biking scene. I've gotten a car after going for more than 9 years carless. I've moved and it wasn't that easy anymore doing the two wheels anymore. Sadly there appears to be more people out on the road on two wheels here (Sacramento) than there was in SoCal (Long Beach). I'm hoping I can get back into it at some point.

Anyways I was at a bike race in the downtown area a couple of weeks back and I was talking to a vendor that was working for Bianchi and they had a pretty big display there. I was asking about the upper class bikes there I got around to where the bike was built. He replies "this one here was made in Asia". I couldn't help laughing to myself! This guy has been shoveling this same BS to everyone that asks, I'm sure! This was not the first leg of this tour, or the last, but he was clear in his answer and was sure there would not be any pressing on that question! But there was! I asked if he had anything clearer than "made in Asia"? Well he didn't. I'm thinking cause this crap is coming from China, but could not bare to admit it.

The real problem is that this "this one here was made in Asia" flies with just about everyone that asks! This has to stop! It's about like saying "this one here was made in the Americas"! You gona take that as an answer********** It's about the same land area as Asia!

Here's a few facts that shows how weak that answer of "this one here was made in Asia". I'll also point out to how it compares to "this one here was made in Americas".

World - area, population, and percentage - 196.9 million miČ, 7.44 billion, 100%
Asia - area, population and percentage - 17.21 million miČ, 4.46 billion, 59.9% of the people and 8.7% of the land
Americas - area, population and percentage - 16.43 million miČ, 1 billion, 13.4% of the people and 8.3% of the land


So does "this one here was made in Asia" give you a good idea where the frame/fork is made? So why not call them on it**********???
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Old 06-20-18, 10:45 PM
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You need to ride the bike more.
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Old 06-20-18, 10:49 PM
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They are not playing idiot...

Most are actually idiots, veritable hicks who know not the world beyond their own country.
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Old 06-20-18, 11:39 PM
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My bike's frame was designed in Orange County, California, the frame was made in Taiwan and it's dressed up with components from Japan (apparently, the Rubino tires are made in Italy).
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Originally Posted by Abu Mahendra View Post
Most are actually idiots, veritable hicks who know not the world beyond their own country.
Damn, dude. You have some hate in your heart. Most people don't know the world beyond their own country.
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Old 06-21-18, 05:13 AM
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I don't think I can detect the subtle differences between a fork made in Taiwan and a fork made in China. Still looking for that MIA Ultegra group. Can't seem to find it - only Japanese copies.
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Old 06-21-18, 05:41 AM
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Que the "Old man yells at cloud" meme
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Asia is Strategic...

...if you're playing the board game Risk. Usually, though, because of its many borders, it's one of the last continents to be taken. He who holds Asia will rule the World. Word.
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I try to not make contact with crazy muttering people who pass me on the street...So I won't respond to the OP.
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Old 06-21-18, 06:21 AM
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My road bike frame was designed and built in the Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia, PA and Cerakoted in Sellinsgrove, PA. Is that specific enough for you?
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Originally Posted by McBTC View Post
My bike's frame was designed in Orange County, California, the frame was made in Taiwan and it's dressed up with components from Japan (apparently, the Rubino tires are made in Italy).
If you mean Shimano, they might actually be made in Malaysia. Depends on the group, I think.
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Old 06-21-18, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by User1 View Post
Hello all,

It's been awhile since I've posted here and it's really cause I've been out of the loop on the biking scene. I've gotten a car after going for more than 9 years carless. I've moved and it wasn't that easy anymore doing the two wheels anymore. Sadly there appears to be more people out on the road on two wheels here (Sacramento) than there was in SoCal (Long Beach). I'm hoping I can get back into it at some point.

Anyways I was at a bike race in the downtown area a couple of weeks back and I was talking to a vendor that was working for Bianchi and they had a pretty big display there. I was asking about the upper class bikes there I got around to where the bike was built. He replies "this one here was made in Asia". I couldn't help laughing to myself! This guy has been shoveling this same BS to everyone that asks, I'm sure! This was not the first leg of this tour, or the last, but he was clear in his answer and was sure there would not be any pressing on that question! But there was! I asked if he had anything clearer than "made in Asia"? Well he didn't. I'm thinking cause this crap is coming from China, but could not bare to admit it.

The real problem is that this "this one here was made in Asia" flies with just about everyone that asks! This has to stop! It's about like saying "this one here was made in the Americas"! You gona take that as an answer********** It's about the same land area as Asia!

Here's a few facts that shows how weak that answer of "this one here was made in Asia". I'll also point out to how it compares to "this one here was made in Americas".

World - area, population, and percentage - 196.9 million miČ, 7.44 billion, 100%
Asia - area, population and percentage - 17.21 million miČ, 4.46 billion, 59.9% of the people and 8.7% of the land
Americas - area, population and percentage - 16.43 million miČ, 1 billion, 13.4% of the people and 8.3% of the land


So does "this one here was made in Asia" give you a good idea where the frame/fork is made? So why not call them on it**********???
Do you get that annoyed when someone says a car is 'European'?

It could be a German Audi or a Swedish Volvo or an Italian Ferrari or a French Peugeot or an English Aston Martin

All very different cars from very different countries. So does calling them all European Cars bother you?
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The only way to solve this geo political crisis is to require all bicycle manufacturers (aka "them") to provide a certificate for each and every component used on their products stating component manufacturer, address, contact information etc. Ha ha.
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As I'm wont to say ironically whenever a cheap tool breaks, there was a time when "Made in China" actually meant something.
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We sell frames made in China, Taiwan, and Indonesia.

I think I'm gonna start saying "They're made right here in the Northern hemisphere. Buy local!"
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So, what is this thread about? Did it not come from Asia? Is it that hard to ask for clarification, if you really care beyond that point?

Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
Damn, dude. You have some hate in your heart. Most people don't know the world beyond their own country.
That was actually a pretty tame comment coming from him.

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The only way to solve this geo political crisis is to require all bicycle manufacturers (aka "them") to provide a certificate for each and every component used on their products stating component manufacturer, address, contact information etc. Ha ha.
To be fair, they do require that of bike helmets. Look at the label sometime, it will have the manufacturer and address on it.
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All imported goods are required by law to be marked with their country of origin (specifically at the time that they're sold to a consumer). Pretty sure there's a sticker or label on every "Made in Asia" bike that doesn't say "Made in Asia". That would include the OP's upper class Bianchi.
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Not this topic again. Caley Fretz nailed it years ago:
The Torqued Wrench: The Myth of Origin | VeloNews.com
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My suggestion: Get a bike, ride it on the ARBT at sunrise as soon as possible.

All you troubles will melt away.

(Sunset is pretty good too!)
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I've been to Asia... most of it, and find that it is a descriptive, accurate answer to the implied question "was this Italian bicycle made in Italy"
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
My road bike frame was designed and built in the Chestnut Hill section of Philadelphia, PA and Cerakoted in Sellinsgrove, PA. Is that specific enough for you?
How well does the bike frame ride without tires and other components sourced from Asia? Do the fancy-dancy cycling clothes that you wear when upon your PA made bike frame come from the same place as the bike frame?
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How well does the bike frame ride without tires and other components sourced from Asia? Do the fancy-dancy cycling clothes that you wear when upon your PA made bike frame come from the same place as the bike frame?
*yawn* Perhaps you need another BF timeout.
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
...if you're playing the board game Risk. Usually, though, because of its many borders, it's one of the last continents to be taken. He who holds Asia will rule the World. Word.
Always start with Australia and move out from there.
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How about "Made in the PRC"?

Ooh, that sounds fancy! How many people will know where that is? Nice try!
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You need to ride the bike more.
You hit the nail on the head.
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