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Old 07-11-18, 01:11 PM
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boxer-briefs , are maybe OK to try wearing them and trying on bike shorts .. over them..

just won't have to, once you buy the ones you like..
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Old 07-11-18, 02:31 PM
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I've only paid that kind of money for a jersey twice - one was a Great Allegheny Passage jersey (I figure it helped support the trail) and the other was from Sundance, Utah (my wife actually bought it after seeing me admire it).

Mostly, I shop Primal's website for end-of-season or end-of-run specials and sales. I like the fit and the price is reasonable.
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Old 07-11-18, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Same brands? That would be surprising.

Most bike shops with manufacturer ties (Specialized, Trek, etc.) usually carry that company's affiliate clothing lineup -- Bontrager for Trek. They may also stock one or two other name brands -- Pearl Izumi, Louis Garneau, etc. I've never seen any LBS that carried the generic stuff commonly found at a fraction of the price on Amazon, ebay and other online-only outlets. IMO, most Bontrager clothing items are overpriced underperformers, although some bits and pieces are very good, like their Thermal RX gloves. And you'll rarely find those significantly discounted until an item has been discontinued and only a few odd sizes or colors are left.

Yeah, you can buy decent jerseys, shorts, etc., for much less money online by sifting through the stuff with names like Koramon, Sponeed and similar names that clang like sour notes. Some of those are okay. I have a few.

But Pearl Izumi -- which isn't even among the elite clothing manufacturers -- is in a whole nuther class in quality of material, construction, design and fit. Even Garneau, a notch down from Pearl Izumi, is a significant step up from most of the generic stuff.

Wear them through a hot, sweaty summer and the differences become apparent. Pearl Izumi and others update their fabrics often, as soon as something better is available from the tech fabric mills. But the various generic makers will continue using fabrics that have been superseded by better stuff. For example, my Sponeed and Bontrager wicking fabric jerseys are made from what appears to be the same type of fabric, which may have been state of the art a few years ago but has been surpassed. It's a laminated fabric with visible mesh fabric exterior bonded to a slicker inner fabric that's softer and slicker. It's durable stuff, holds size, color and shape well and resists minor abrasions (although it's prone to snagging), is reasonably odor resistant, etc. But it tends to soak up sweat and lay against the skin like a damp rag in humid weather, while the better stuff from Pearl Izumi and others will wick perspiration better across a wider range of weather conditions.

Check Amazon, discounters like Nashbar and others and you can often find discontinued or overstocked shorts and jerseys discounted. Ditto Pearl Izumi outlet stores. Also, Pearl Izumi, Garneau and others have a clearance section on their own websites.

AeroTech clothing is good for the price too, especially their Pro shorts with the black and tan thinner padding that isn't the diaper-like sculpted foam stuff..
Agree about Aerotech, especially the shorts. I have a pair of Aerotech shorts, and a pair of knickers and they are my go to for both hot and cool weather riding.

Disagree about Bontrager Jerseys compared with Pearl. I find that for the money, Bontrager is a better value (real world price about $10 cheaper than comparable Pearl jerseys), and for me, and they are just a bit more comfortable than my Pearl Izumi Jerseys. But these days, my go to jerseys are mostly Primal. Lots of colors and styles, most available online for $20 to $30.
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Old 07-11-18, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoD500_SR20-d View Post
Bike Shorts are supposed to be worn in the buff. Trying them on seems yucky lol
Exactly why I wouldn't dream of buying bike shorts from a thrift store. It would be like buying someone else's underwear.
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Old 07-11-18, 11:37 PM
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Ballad Shorts on Amazon

In early June I bought three pair of “Baleaf Men's 3D Gel Padded Cycling Bike Shorts Tights Quick Dry UPF 50+“ for $21.99 each on Amazon. Fit great and look great. If I get two seasons out of them I’m still way ahead. I bought them pre- Trump Tariff. They are made in China. Just saying...
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Is there really a difference in Jerseys that justify almost a 90.00 difference at times?
What's in a brand name? Added cost mostly. Nevertheless, a brand can oftentimes be your assurance of quality. Even so, that quality is individually defined, and can vary depending on what each person determines is a need when it comes to biking apparel.

If that's fit, then the better brands will almost always fit and feel better. That's always been true for me, since I've never been disappointed by a quality name brands.

However, having that quality at 2-3x the price is another matter altogether. Had those name brands jerseys and shorts not been on sale, I would never have purchased them. For me, its like most things cycling and quickly gets way past the point of diminishing return -- especially since they don't last any longer.
My local bike shop wanted almost 100.00 for a Jersey and I know I could get 3 of them from Amazon at that price and 3 padded shorts.
Part of that bulk thing, and part similar to buying a Coke at the supermarket as compared to buying it at a restaurant or bar.

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Old 07-12-18, 05:58 AM
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Good stuff is good. Cheap stuff is cheap. It's up to all of us to decide where we want to spend the money for good, and where we want to save some cash by buying cheap.
Well said.




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Old 07-12-18, 06:47 AM
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Discussions of "value" are almost always fruitless, since we all have different preferences, practices, and budget constraints. What is "worth it" to me may be unreasonably extravagant to you, or vice-versa.

Also bear in mind that cheaper attire might be fine for people who ride short distances...But when I go out for a 50+ mile ride, I prefer to wear very comfortable shorts and jersey.
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I agree, deciding which bicycle jersey you want to buy, and how much is a fair price, is about as far removed from actual reason as it's possible to get. The thought process when making such decisions is an absolute minefield of instincts, desires, faulty information and advertising hype, it's a wonder we ever decide on anything.

It's like trying to pick the color of paint on your new car, a totally subjective decision, as much as you try to come up with factual, defensible reasons as to why one color is superior to another. Or the particular brand of car or bike. Completely outside the realm of reason, for the most part.

If we really made these decisions logically, we'd all be on the same bike, with the same jersey, same shorts, same shoes, same helmet. Who would want that?
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Old 07-12-18, 07:19 AM
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I agree, deciding which bicycle jersey you want to buy, and how much is a fair price, is about as far removed from actual reason as it's possible to get. The thought process when making such decisions is an absolute minefield of instincts, desires, faulty information and advertising hype, it's a wonder we ever decide on anything.

It's like trying to pick the color of paint on your new car, a totally subjective decision, as much as you try to come up with factual, defensible reasons as to why one color is superior to another. Or the particular brand of car or bike. Completely outside the realm of reason, for the most part.

If we really made these decisions logically, we'd all be on the same bike, with the same jersey, same shorts, same shoes, same helmet. Who would want that?
I don't know with whom you are agreeing...Hopefully not with me. With the term "subjective" I would include the influences of "desires" and "advertising hype," and also plenty of personal criteria that may not apply to others -- such as riding distance, budget, etc. These ARE "defensible reasons" that are NOT "completely outside the realm of reason."

For example, a person with higher income may happily spend more for a jersey that is more aesthetically pleasing, and there is nothing irrational about that. A person who regularly rides very long distances may happily spend more for a jersey that uses better fabrics, and there is nothing irrational about that, either.

About twelve years ago, I spent $100+ for a jersey and cringed a little...But it is, far and away, the best SS jersey I have owned, has gotten the most use, and still performs as well as the day I received it. Others may think that is too much money, but FOR ME it was a good purchase.
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Old 07-12-18, 10:18 AM
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Agree about Aerotech, especially the shorts. I have a pair of Aerotech shorts, and a pair of knickers and they are my go to for both hot and cool weather riding.
Yeah, I need to order another pair of the Pro shorts, in black. My only minor gripe is I wish the legs were a little longer. Maybe my thighs are out of proportion but the cut of the Pro short rides just about 1/2" to an inch higher than I'd like. Although they won't ride up or irritate my skin, so it's hard to complain for what they cost. I think I paid $25-$30 through an Amazon same-day delivery special a couple of years ago.

Disagree about Bontrager Jerseys compared with Pearl. I find that for the money, Bontrager is a better value (real world price about $10 cheaper than comparable Pearl jerseys), and for me, and they are just a bit more comfortable than my Pearl Izumi Jerseys. But these days, my go to jerseys are mostly Primal. Lots of colors and styles, most available online for $20 to $30.
Probably depends on the fabric and year model. I've handled a couple dozen Bontrager jerseys and mountain biking t-shirts at the LBS and the fabrics vary. The t-shirt I got recently is that laminated fabric I described -- durable stuff, but doesn't wick as well in hot, muggy weather and can sometimes lay against the skin like a damp rag. But the other day I saw another Bontrager summer weight jersey that was ultra-light and thin fabric, looked like it'd be very comfy.

Hard to compare prices between Bontrager and Pearl Izumi here because Bontrager items rarely go on sale -- although my LBS does have a discount rack of mostly discontinued summer and old stock winter cycling apparel. Pearl Izumi is discounted more often and available online or in their own local outlet store. So overall the prices are pretty comparable here. PI duds are usually a bit more restrained in appearance so I prefer them.

Same with Garneau -- pretty decent stuff for the money and restrained appearance, nothing fancy. I just got a Lemmon 2 summer weight jersey, which feels like an expensive t-shirt, very comfy in muggy weather and low key design. Only problem is the medium fits me too perfectly, accentuating the belly pudge I've acquired over the last couple of months since I was hit by a car and riding less.

Pearl Izumi has changed its fabrics quite a bit over the years. I doubt PI makes any fabrics -- they probably all buy from a handful of mills that specialize in active wear fabrics. But PI seems to update its apparel often to keep up with the latest fabrics. My 2010 or so PI arm warmers are thicker, heavier and not as soft as the current version, but good enough for Texas winter. PI Canyon baggy shorts are very nicely made with good fabric, and the included padded liner short is much nicer than the Baleaf padded liner short I got two or three years ago. But comparable Zoic baggy shorts are even better, with more features and details oriented toward cyclists.
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Agree about Aerotech, especially the shorts. I have a pair of Aerotech shorts, and a pair of knickers and they are my go to for both hot and cool weather riding.

Disagree about Bontrager Jerseys compared with Pearl. I find that for the money, Bontrager is a better value (real world price about $10 cheaper than comparable Pearl jerseys), and for me, and they are just a bit more comfortable than my Pearl Izumi Jerseys. But these days, my go to jerseys are mostly Primal. Lots of colors and styles, most available online for $20 to $30.
Gotta agree about Aerotech shorts. I like their Outlaw mountain bike shorts for warm weather and their pro shorts for wearing under tights in the winter. I think that Aerotech's jerseys are kind of "American-sized." Where I wear a large in most other brands and get a nice smooth fit, Aerotech's large is a bit looser-fitting. All in my experience, mind you. YMMV.
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Old 07-13-18, 10:25 AM
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I'm a notorious cheapskate but even I spend good money on cycling clothing. Nothing makes a bigger difference to my enjoyment of a day on the bike than comfort. In that context, I've found that seemingly minor details in clothing fit and design make a huge difference. I've never found a discount cycling clothing brand that got these details right. IMO, clothing is one place where you almost always get exactly what you paid for. To a point.
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Old 07-13-18, 11:45 AM
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I'm a notorious cheapskate but even I spend good money on cycling clothing.
Same here.

My own preferences have been determined by a combination of bargain-hunting and trial and error; after a few years, I've determined which brands and cuts work best for my body. With that information, I'll then wait until the pieces I want can be found at 50-75% off MSRP. Just the other day, I scored $120 bib shorts for $40. A few years back I would have thought even $40 is ridiculous, but I've used cheaper kit and suffered the (very painful) consequences.

The one clothing item I'll still get at the LBS is shop kit. Borah Teamwear is local and supplies shop kit for most of our local bike shops, and is really very nice stuff.
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I bought an inexpensive jersey on Amazon because it was so much cheaper than what I found at the LBS. After wearing it I found out why. Cheap zipper, seams that rubbed and were uncomfortable, fabric that just didn't feel as nice as my LBS jersey. Nine times out of 10, you get what you pay for.
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Jerseys rub my nipples raw. When I raced I had to tape them. Now I just use cotton t-shirts. Keep it simple. Pearl Izumi shorts are my second favorite and comfortable shorts. Boure is my most favorite shorts.
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There are lots of places to save money in cycling by buying generic or even non-cycling-specific stuff. But for me, clothing is not one of them.
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Clothing is definitely price dependent; and that's particularly true when considering athletic apparel. However, like all specialty/cycling items, there is still a point of diminishing return that cannot be denied.

The TS can still make a point in that there is so much more you can pay before the improvements in quality become negligible. After that point, paying more money won't get you any significantly better quality -- just a brand name -- and a lot more profit for the manufacturer.
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