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Old 07-08-18, 08:10 PM
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Local Bike Store Cycle Jerseys vs Amazon

Is there really a difference in Jerseys that justify almost a 90.00 difference at times? My local bike shop wanted almost 100.00 for a Jersey and I know I could get 3 of them from Amazon at that price and 3 padded shorts.
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Same brands? That would be surprising.

Most bike shops with manufacturer ties (Specialized, Trek, etc.) usually carry that company's affiliate clothing lineup -- Bontrager for Trek. They may also stock one or two other name brands -- Pearl Izumi, Louis Garneau, etc. I've never seen any LBS that carried the generic stuff commonly found at a fraction of the price on Amazon, ebay and other online-only outlets. IMO, most Bontrager clothing items are overpriced underperformers, although some bits and pieces are very good, like their Thermal RX gloves. And you'll rarely find those significantly discounted until an item has been discontinued and only a few odd sizes or colors are left.

Yeah, you can buy decent jerseys, shorts, etc., for much less money online by sifting through the stuff with names like Koramon, Sponeed and similar names that clang like sour notes. Some of those are okay. I have a few.

But Pearl Izumi -- which isn't even among the elite clothing manufacturers -- is in a whole nuther class in quality of material, construction, design and fit. Even Garneau, a notch down from Pearl Izumi, is a significant step up from most of the generic stuff.

Wear them through a hot, sweaty summer and the differences become apparent. Pearl Izumi and others update their fabrics often, as soon as something better is available from the tech fabric mills. But the various generic makers will continue using fabrics that have been superseded by better stuff. For example, my Sponeed and Bontrager wicking fabric jerseys are made from what appears to be the same type of fabric, which may have been state of the art a few years ago but has been surpassed. It's a laminated fabric with visible mesh fabric exterior bonded to a slicker inner fabric that's softer and slicker. It's durable stuff, holds size, color and shape well and resists minor abrasions (although it's prone to snagging), is reasonably odor resistant, etc. But it tends to soak up sweat and lay against the skin like a damp rag in humid weather, while the better stuff from Pearl Izumi and others will wick perspiration better across a wider range of weather conditions.

Check Amazon, discounters like Nashbar and others and you can often find discontinued or overstocked shorts and jerseys discounted. Ditto Pearl Izumi outlet stores. Also, Pearl Izumi, Garneau and others have a clearance section on their own websites.

AeroTech clothing is good for the price too, especially their Pro shorts with the black and tan thinner padding that isn't the diaper-like sculpted foam stuff..
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Is there really a difference in Jerseys that justify almost a 90.00 difference at times? My local bike shop wanted almost 100.00 for a Jersey and I know I could get 3 of them from Amazon at that price and 3 padded shorts.
Good stuff is good. Cheap stuff is cheap. It's up to all of us to decide where we want to spend the money for good, and where we want to save some cash by buying cheap.
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Cycling shorts definitely a difference. Some of the cheap shorts feel like your wearing a diaper for padding . Look around online and you should be able to find last years models on a good pair of shorts marked way down. Jerseys for me not so much. You can tell differences in quality but since I dont wear jerseys skin tight it's not a big difference. I did order a StL Cardinal jersey from China and had to order a 2X where I usually buy XL. Paper thin and Birds on Bat a little orange. Most of the time I order jerseys for a design I like and that's usually the more expensive and better fit ones.
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I bought the Louis Garneau jerseys this year from Nashbar at $15 ea. 2 of my shorts are Baleaf from Amazon, and are pretty decent, costing only $20 each. Watch the sales. There is decent stuff for those of us who donít have hundreds to spend.
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"Aero Tech clothing is good for the price too, especially their Pro shorts with the black and tan thinner padding that isn't the diaper-like sculpted foam stuff." Yup, I like these.

I usually purchase a jersey for one of the rides during the year...I'll pick the most interesting one (last year I bought two). Jerseys seem to last a long time...my primary training jersey is nearly 20 years old--couldn't tell you the brand.
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I generally like Pearl Izume although for tops, I've got a Primal (because the design was fun - the Evolution design for those familiar) and I also got a couple from group rides I've done as I also liked the design. btw, if you want better prices than you'll find on Amazon, check out Sierra Trading Post. I got a couple of Pearl Izumi shorts at around half the price of Amazon.
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Good stuff is good. Cheap stuff is cheap. It's up to all of us to decide where we want to spend the money for good, and where we want to save some cash by buying cheap.
This.

My husband is thrifty and never thought he would spend much on cycling gear (bikes, clothes.... everything). Frankly, most of the college kids around here had much higher quality gear than he had. So, I bought him some top-of-the-line Italian cycling clothing, and he has never gone back to the Amazon, Performance, Nashbar lines. We are lucky to be able to afford the good stuff... and even my thrifty husband has learned that good stuff is good and cheap stuff is cheap.
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BTW, a good buy now in a really comfy summer jersey is the Garneau Lemmon 2, especially if you can find one discounted from the usual $60 price. I got one for $30 from Amazon (last one that vendor had) and found another at the LBS for $40 that I might get as well.

It's not the cheapest, but it is the thinnest, lightest and softest materials I've found yet in a jersey, like fine cotton or merino wool, but it's poly wicking fabric. And it has even thinner mesh vents down from the underarms along the sides to the waist, and back of the neck/shoulders. I'm waiting for a t-storm to pass so I can try it later today or tomorrow. The weather today has been hot and muggy, which should be a good test of a summer weight minimalist fabric.

There were a few of the discontinued previous generation Garneau Lemmon jerseys for as little as $15, but those were all in small or extra large, none in medium or large.
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Is there really a difference in Jerseys that justify almost a 90.00 difference at times? My local bike shop wanted almost 100.00 for a Jersey and I know I could get 3 of them from Amazon at that price and 3 padded shorts.
Yes, there is a difference. I would not want to ride a block on the chamois in a $15 of shorts.

One suggestion is to look in the clearance/overstock section of reputable clothing makers' websites. Por ejemplo: https://www.voler.com/browse/cat3/?cat=sale
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Ive been using a compression top it works really well was 10 bucks
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100$ jersey is a luxury item. You don't always get what u pay for.

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Good stuff is good. Cheap stuff is cheap. It's up to all of us to decide where we want to spend the money for good, and where we want to save some cash by buying cheap.
Eh, I've got some nice Sugoi and Giordana jerseys. I pretty much just regularly wear my $9 Dicks Nishiki ones. Going on fourth season of them, holding up just fine.
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If you like "comfort" fit jerseys, I have been very happy with the jersey I bought from L.L. Bean so far. I just ordered a second one. Only comes in the comfort fit and only comes in three color schemes. They run about $40 online.
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I have to invest in a pair of quality shorts then. I have 2 pairs of Giordana Bib Tights with a thin but comfortable chamois. I have 2 pairs of Under shorts tights I use under running pants and bought 2 pairs of Bike Zero shorts recently off Amazon. The Bike Zero shorts have that gel pad but I feel could be more strategic in it's placement. I will check out some Pearl Izumi shorts now and come back with a review.
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The Bike Zero shorts have that gel pad but I feel could be more strategic in it's placement.
Very typical of cheap cycling clothing. They get everything wrong. You're probably better off riding in regular gym shorts than a $20-30 pair of padded bike shorts. Ditto with cheap jerseys, poor fit, bad stitching , cheap fabric . . . total nightmare when you find yourself on a 100 degree day climbing a 12% grade, and the padding on your shorts starts chafing or shifting around. Meanwhile, you're sweating like a pig under some ill-fitting, hot, cheap gaudy polyester jersey you hated the looks of, but only bought cause it was CHEEP. Been there, done that, it sucks badly.

I say ride in street clothes rather than crappy Chinese bike clothing from Amazon that doesn't fit. At least you won't look and feel like a complete clueless dork.
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I say ride in street clothes rather than crappy Chinese bike clothing from Amazon that doesn't fit. At least you won't look and feel like a complete clueless dork.
Not so. I will look like a complete clueless dork no matter how much my wardrobe cost.
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Sometimes the expensive stuff is nicer. Sometimes it's just more expensive. My biggest problem with the stuff in the bike shop is that there's only 3 or 4 jerseys that fit me, and with that kind of selection it's unlikely that any of them will appeal to me.
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Just found these at EMS for 9.99 clearance
https://www.ems.com/muddyfox-men%E2%80%99s-padded-cycling-shorts/2044086.html#pmax=25.00&q=cycle+shorts&pmin=0.00&start=6
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And I found these on Pearl Izumi site on sale 9.99
https://www.pearlizumi.com/US/en/Shop/Ride/Road/Men's/Apparel/Bottoms/Shorts/Men's_Attack_Short/p/11111202065
so now I have 8 pairs total including my two Amazon Shorts.
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I've made some nice scores on both ebay, and my local Goodwill, in recent months. They're not an instant solution, because you have to hunt, and be patient, but I've made some great scores. Among a couple others, just from my local Goodwill and another thrift store, I got a killer pair of Pearl Izumi mtn shorts, a nice pair of Nishiki road shorts, and a pair of gel pad Canari's, that are now my #1 favorite, most comfortable short.
From ebay, (among a couple other jerseys), I got an excellent Pearl Izumi wind vest for about $16 delivered, and a pair of near new Aero Tech Designs shorts (also now a favorite) that I snagged on a single bid of $10.95 delivered !!
I wish Pricepoint was still around (they were always my favorite ), because I have two of their house-brand yellow jerseys, that have been regular riding favorites for years, and just won't seem to die !!!
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Good point mentioning thrift stores. That's where all of my nicest jersies are from. I absolutely won't pay $250 for a new Pearl Izumi or Castelli jersey, especially when I can find one that looks brand new at Goodwill for $5.00. Jersies are one of the things I always look for at thrift shops. For five bucks, I will grab anything that comes close to fitting. Many smaller jersies I bought used years ago, fit me perfectly now that I've lost some weight.

I keep a whole range of sizes lying around, since my weight is always changing over the years. I must have 40--50 by now. Bike jersies have a very finicky fit, some won't fit any more if you gain 5 lbs, others are more forgiving. The sizing keeps me from buying them online, you never know what will fit you until you try it on, and sometimes even then you're not quite sure it fits. I find it's best to have a whole pile of them yo go through, and just see which one fits that day, and has "not too stupid" graphics I can live with. for the next few hours.
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you cannot go to amazon and try those on for size & fit , of course..

maybe just get wicking T shirts rather than a bike jersey at all ..
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you cannot go to amazon and try those on for size & fit , of course..

maybe just get wicking T shirts rather than a bike jersey at all ..
Bike Shorts are supposed to be worn in the buff. Trying them on seems yucky lol
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Am I the only one who does not mind the close-out cheapos from Nashbar? As long as they fit, I like them.
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