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Old 07-17-18, 12:56 AM
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Shwalbe Pro One user advice

So im going tubless , cant wait !!!
the SP1 tire seems to be the closest i can get to the conti gp4ks2 . at merlin the total for two is 89 $ or 93 $ with the kit .

My question to the tubeless community is in my reading it has said to use 30 to 80 ml of sealant .the kit says it comes with 60ml .

So i figure i should get 2 tires and buy some sealant from their web site at 4 buks a pop not including shipping .

Am i right or should i do something different ??
Should i get a different brand of sealant .
should i get a different tire .

i dont feel any other tire will be in the price range im trying to stay in . these tires will not really see ban conditions like salty winter roads . just amature races and lots of sunny training days . thanks and bye ...
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Old 07-17-18, 10:24 AM
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The kit? Skip the kit and get a bigger container.

I personally just bought a big jug of Stan's... although it sounds like Orange Seal may be superior and I'll try that next. That sealant doesn't last for ever you know - you'll need to top it off every couple months.

I also think removable valve cores are essential to the tubeless experience. SO much easier to top off than removing the tire.
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Old 07-17-18, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
The kit? Skip the kit and get a bigger container.

I personally just bought a big jug of Stan's... although it sounds like Orange Seal may be superior and I'll try that next. That sealant doesn't last for ever you know - you'll need to top it off every couple months.

I also think removable valve cores are essential to the tubeless experience. SO much easier to top off than removing the tire.
I did exactly the same; removable valve cores, a big jug of Stans, and even got the injector that helps SO MUCH with the potentially messy business of adding the sealant...
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Old 07-17-18, 10:45 AM
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Stems: Velotubes stems from Amazon-- they're simply the best I've used, 3 lengths, 6 colors, no change in inner diameter. Makes initially seating the tires easier, and the tapered bases make them easier to fit into the hole in the rims.
Sealant: TruckerCo Cream-- about $21 a liter, more suspended particulate than Stan's, no ammonia content, comes with a free, and useful applicator (sized for presta stems.)

If you ride on actual roads, you might want to consider looking somewhere other than Schwalbe Ones. Most fragile tire I've ever encountered. Even the very race-oriented Maxxis Padrone TR can handle more abuse than the Ones. I'm a 100% Giant Gavia guy for now-- they're relatively inexpensive, they have decent cut protection, and I've never gotten a single puncture while riding them, over 6,000 miles. I have lost 2 of them on rides, both due to glass cuts that would have killed any other tire. The only issue with Giant is they keep renaming the product lines, so there are now SEVEN tubeless tires out there in 700x25-- the SL, SLR, AC1, AC0, Race1, Race0, AC0, AC1, and AC2. Due to availability and need at the time, I have so far used the SL, SLR, AC1, and Race1. They all felt exactly the same to me, really. They can routinely be found for less than $40 a tire regardless of "trim level." The Race1, AC0, and SLR are supposed to be the racier options, but they generally cost around the same. My wife is riding on the Race1s, the lightest ones they make-- and seems to have no issues with punctures, despite historically being a puncture magnet (she rides too close to the gutter.)
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ok thanks !! what giant tire is closest to the gp4ks2 ?? that's the only tire i use for training at least ...
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Old 07-18-18, 09:41 AM
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For a roadie, tubular is less trouble than tubeless. Lighter weight wheelset, liquid latex sealant in small quantity for flat protection, less mess.

iím running Schwalbe S-One 30mm tubular for a bike that sees a fair amount of gravel.

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Schwalbe Pro Ones 28mm, with 30ml of Orange Sealant in each tire. 310g total tire weight on each wheel. I can't think of a lighter combination of tube + tire in that width anywhere on the market.

I've ridden a thousand or so miles on them this year. Everywhere from rather rough washboards, fast dirt descents, Pikes Peak, Triple Bypass, and poorly maintained southern colorado pavement. I had one puncture after a 40 mile washboard ride. It took longer than it should have to seal so I had to add some air. This was because I'd lost track and gone about 3 months without adding sealant. It does evaporate over time. I just get the Orange Sealant at the bike shop and a 30ml syringe to measure. It's not much sealant so a single bottle lasts a long time.

I still carry a CO2, extra valve core, and tube. I really would love to ride without, I just can't make myself do it.

I really like the tires. Now that I have a gravel bike and the road bike won't be blasting washboards anymore, I'll probably get Pro - Ones in 25mm once I wear these 28's out. The gravel bike will be getting G- One's in 35-38 but that's a different discussion altogether.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
If you ride on actual roads, you might want to consider looking somewhere other than Schwalbe Ones. Most fragile tire I've ever encountered.
I have a set of Pro ones being delivered today. Not what I wanted to hear although I bet they still do better than my Mavic Yksions.

Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
I'm a 100% Giant Gavia guy for now-- they're relatively inexpensive, they have decent cut protection, and I've never gotten a single puncture while riding them, over 6,000 miles. I have lost 2 of them on rides, both due to glass cuts that would have killed any other tire. The only issue with Giant is they keep renaming the product lines, so there are now SEVEN tubeless tires out there in 700x25-- the SL, SLR, AC1, AC0, Race1, Race0, AC0, AC1, and AC2. Due to availability and need at the time, I have so far used the SL, SLR, AC1, and Race1. They all felt exactly the same to me, really. They can routinely be found for less than $40 a tire regardless of "trim level." The Race1, AC0, and SLR are supposed to be the racier options, but they generally cost around the same. My wife is riding on the Race1s, the lightest ones they make-- and seems to have no issues with punctures, despite historically being a puncture magnet (she rides too close to the gutter.)
Good to know. I need to try the Giants next.
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