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Old 07-19-18, 02:05 PM
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Racks and bags

Will be retiring in just about a year. Iím going to start with weekend rides where I will leave on Friday night and return home on Sunday. Looking forward to increasing to 7-10 days. Iím looking for racks and bags that would be a good choice. I have a Giant Roam 2.
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Old 07-19-18, 02:16 PM
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Frame bags might be a better option. Don't get me wrong. I love racks and panniers. They make everything easier when it comes to carrying stuff. But they also cause a not insignificant amount of aerodynamic drag when compared to frame bags. Frame bags are more of a hassle to pack and unpack, but they are better to ride with, most especially over long distances. And they have the benefit of not requiring you to install racks to use, so when you aren't using the bags, you don't have that extra weight on your bike. Frame bags can be used on frames which aren't made to accommodate racks at all.

Ultimately it's up to you. I'm not going to get rid of my racks. Ever. But I am going to seriously consider frame bags if I ever get a new road bike.

Anyway...

With a front suspension fork and flat bars, you're limited to a handlebar bag. Ortlieb and Topeak both make good clip on handlebar bags. The Ortlieb ones come with a locking option on the mounting bracket. I suggest getting a medium or large sized one.

Axiom makes excellent and reliable rear racks. You can go with the streamliner disc. It's a good choice in my opinion. It's designed for bikes with disc brakes and it gives you lots of heel clearance.

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Old 07-19-18, 03:36 PM
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Just to add counterpoints to the frame bags above, racks are more versatile in that you strap all sorts of stuff to them. Very hard to do pack weird shaped objects in frame bags. Food cartons? No way!

People seem to like both so try some out on your 3-day trips and see which one you like better (or maybe you like a combo of both).

Also, Minoura makes a heavy duty front rack that is compatible with front suspension forks. Tubus is also another brand to consider, although pricey.
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Old 07-19-18, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by zze86 View Post
Tubus is also another brand to consider, although pricey.
Are you thinking of Tara or Duo? Wouldn't you need mid-fork mounts to use something like that? I'm not even sure u-bolts would be a viable workaround on a suspension fork. Too fat.
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This should probably be in Touring but glad to hear you are getting out!

I am kind of in the same boat right now, just starting out on the touring gig. I went with a lower end Ibera 150lb load rear rack, and the Bushwhacker series of panniers and a top trunk bag. Plans are for some 2-3 day tours with the wife once out weather gets out of Hell mode, and go from there if we like it. Wanted to keep the costs down until we decide what we want to do.

As far as front racks go, there are a few options out there such as Old Man Mountain and others that make kits for suspension and non suspension bikes that don't have the braze-ons for front racks.

Check out the Touring forums here, tons of info there as well. Enjoy!

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Old 07-20-18, 07:10 AM
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Apidura bags are nice.

https://www.apidura.com/

No racks required.
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Old 07-20-18, 07:16 AM
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Ortlieb pannier user here. Many consider them the gold standard. (Let's not get into that debate.) Since you don't have a traditional touring bike, it might not have the typical brazeons for racks. That's not fatal, but it could present some problems. I would check out thetouringstore.com If you see anything you like, the owner, Wayne, is extremely helpful with rack attachment solutions. He took the time to speak to me personally about mating my Ortliebs I bought from him to my racks. His service after the sale is great. When I needed a warranty replacement for one of my panniers he sent me a new one before I returned the defective one because I had a tour coming up very soon.

BTW...One piece of missing information is the type of touring you plan to do. "Credit card", where you sleep indoors and eat out? Camping? With cooking gear or without? That makes a dig difference. If you plan to stay indoors and not cook, you can probably get away with a trunk bag and a handlebar bag. That simplifies things a lot. I have a good friend who tours that way on a carbon bike.

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Old 07-20-18, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by toast3d View Post
Are you thinking of Tara or Duo? Wouldn't you need mid-fork mounts to use something like that? I'm not even sure u-bolts would be a viable workaround on a suspension fork. Too fat.
yeah, I probably should have put that last part into another paragraph. I was just recommending Tubus for racks in general, not specifically for the front. good catch!
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Ortlieb pannier user here. Many consider them the gold standard. (Let's not get into that debate.) Since you don't have a traditional touring bike, it might not have the typical brazeons for racks. That's not fatal, but it could present some problems. I would check out thetouringstore.com If you see anything you like, the owner, Wayne, is extremely helpful with rack attachment solutions. ...

His service after the sale is great.
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+1, ditto, +1 more.

Also FWIW, I needed a replacement cable for my Ortlieb handlebar bag after an unfortunate start to my long tour. Tried Ortlieb, their response was they didn't carry that part but they told me Wayne at thetouringstore did. IOne phone call later and it was waiting for me at a (very) small town post office three days later.
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Old 07-20-18, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by hrod56 View Post
Will be retiring in just about a year. I’m going to start with weekend rides where I will leave on Friday night and return home on Sunday. Looking forward to increasing to 7-10 days. I’m looking for racks and bags that would be a good choice. I have a Giant Roam 2.
I don't want to discourage you but you might start with a different bike...or at least a different fork. The suspension fork on this bike isn't all that useful. It's travel is very limited (63mm is a very short travel fork) and it won't really provide all that much comfort. All it really does is bob up and down and rob you of energy. It's also quite heavy. You also can't mount racks on it.

The rest of the bike seems to have a pretty good geometry for touring...long chain stays and long wheelbase...so all is not lost. Replace the fork with a Surly LHT fork and you'll have a fine touring bike.

I would suggest racks and panniers front and rear with front only for lighter loads. A tent and sleeping bag goes on the rear deck no matter whether you are using 4 bags or 2. Tubus racks are about the best around. This bike is set up for panniers front and rear. Naked


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Ortlieb panniers (Ortlieb and Tubus are the same company) are also about the best around. Those bags are almost 15 years old and are still as waterproof as the day I bought them. None of this is cheap. Racks and bags will cost you around $400.

But if you go the bikepacking route, don't expect to save any money. The bags are equally as expensive for similar quality. A handlebar roll will cost you from $80 to $150. A frame pack will cost around $150 and a seatbag will cost you about the same. I would suggest you look at my new favorite bikepacking company, Ojeva Negra, I you want to go the bikepacking route. I love the name and the fact that they are a tiny little Colorado company that make their bikes in Salida.

I would, by the way, show you pictures of my bikepacking gear in action but it seems that the world is conspiring to prevent me from taking pictures of off-road touring. My daughter removed the batteries from my camera on one trip and I lost the camera on another. I have ancient pictures from like film! but I'd have to scan those to show them.
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Banjo Brothers makes great bags, and they are a bit less expensive than Ortlieb.
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