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Old 07-27-18, 04:04 PM
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Is this bike safe?

I have let my Specialized Langster sit outside in London weather for about 5 years. First 2-3 years it was ridden every day. Last couple, not so much.

Currently its in pretty bad shape. Needs a new chain, new brake lever after a crash, the clear coat coat is peeling off the carbon fork, etc.

I can add pics if you need, but really Iím just trying to figure out what to look out for once I start riding it again. Have a new job and will be riding every day.

Will the tyres be OK after sitting outside for that long without being ridden? The wheels? The frame?

On a separate note, if I buy a new (used) single speed and get a steel frame, will it deteriorate quickly if I store it outside? Like I said, plan to ride it every day.

Thanks!
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Old 07-27-18, 04:37 PM
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Probably not. Carbon + aluminium + water = galvanic corrosion spreading into the carbon. Add the fact that you crashed the bike, and those carbon forks could fail.

"But carbon fiber doesn't corrode!" Aluminium does, especially when it meets carbon, and I believe that corroded aluminium can damage the carbon as it spreads through/over/into the carbon.
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Old 07-27-18, 07:15 PM
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Aren't there any bike cruelty laws?
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Old 07-27-18, 07:51 PM
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Keep an eye out for cracks; listen for snaps, unusual noises. As long as the tires hold air, they should be fine. I'd ride it; chances are you're not going to die unless you're in heavy traffic or riding at high speeds; why not? If you decide not to resto it, I'm not sure how much you'd enjoy a steel frame for daily riding, you're definitely going to feel the weight but it's your best bet for durability (aside from you know, actually taking care of your aluminum/carbon bike!).
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Old 07-27-18, 07:55 PM
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Poor Langster. Mine got ridden quite a lot (and still gets ridden here and there) but I never dared leave it outside for long periods of time. The bike might be rideable with some new components possibly but I would bring it by your local shop and have them take a peek at it since they will better see everything that we might not see in photos.

For future bikes don't leave them outside, that is abuse to the poor bike. Take care of your bike, bring it in with you even in small spaces there are tons of storage options and especially if you are riding it daily you will want to have it inside so you can actually maintain it and keep it aired and lubed.
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Old 07-27-18, 11:31 PM
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Carbon forks, aluminium frame - the frame will be OK, unsure about the forks since you mentioned a crash. You may find the chain has rusted, and you'll certainly need to clean and lubricate the drive train, and brakes.
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Old 07-28-18, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hillyman View Post
Aren't there any bike cruelty laws?
Man, you said it!

"There oughta' be a LAW!!!"
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Old 07-28-18, 03:11 PM
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of course safe with helmet !
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Old 07-28-18, 05:02 PM
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I would sleep outside before I'd leave my bike outside. Just sayin.
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Old 07-28-18, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rtwilli4 View Post
I have let my Specialized Langster sit outside in London weather for about 5 years. First 2-3 years it was ridden every day. Last couple, not so much.

Currently its in pretty bad shape. Needs a new chain, new brake lever after a crash, the clear coat coat is peeling off the carbon fork, etc.

I can add pics if you need, but really Iím just trying to figure out what to look out for once I start riding it again. Have a new job and will be riding every day.

Will the tyres be OK after sitting outside for that long without being ridden? The wheels? The frame?

On a separate note, if I buy a new (used) single speed and get a steel frame, will it deteriorate quickly if I store it outside? Like I said, plan to ride it every day.

Thanks!
the tires are probably complete crap by now. swap these. i recommend conti gp4k.
frame should be good.
fork maybe needs a clear coat spray from a rattlecan.
hubs usually needs to be opened and regreased every 2-3 years or so and the mech needs lubing/cleaning every 6 months or so.
Many/all bearing needs to opened and relubed after 5 years. you either buy the tools and do it yourself or let a bike shop do it. I prefer to do stuff myself. so i know it gets done properly.
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Old 07-29-18, 03:29 PM
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Yea, itís staying outside. Itís a bike. Thatís life in London. Sorry if that upsets anyone.

Seems like most people think the frame should be fine? Itís £120 at my local shop for a full strip-down and re-build. That includes re-greasing wheel hubs, headset, I assume BB too. Worth it? Iíll probbaly have to spend another £80 on tyres, cables, brake levers, pads, etc.

I can trust the guys in there to be honest about the condition of the frame/fork but I think they are probably fine. The crash(es) were minor and low speed. No contact to the wheels or frame.

Thanks.

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Old 07-29-18, 05:26 PM
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Outside in London for 5 years? It will be a wonder if the chain isn't rusted solid. The tires will likely need replaced, look very closely for dry rot. Even 5-year-old tires on a bike that hasn't been stored outside likely need replaced. Tubes might be OK, but since they're cheap enough to replace I'd put some new ones in anyway.
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Old 07-30-18, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
Outside in London for 5 years? It will be a wonder if the chain isn't rusted solid. The tires will likely need replaced, look very closely for dry rot. Even 5-year-old tires on a bike that hasn't been stored outside likely need replaced. Tubes might be OK, but since they're cheap enough to replace I'd put some new ones in anyway.
Well the tires, tubes, chain and brake pads are only 2-3 years old but I didnít ride much in those years so never replaced them. Plan to replace all that now. My main concern is if the frame and forks are ok and it seems like should/could be fine.

So the question is do I spend £200 on this bike or £200 on an eBay or Gumtree bike??

I could search for a brand new one (£500?) but there is no point as Iíll just destroy it by commuting to Oxford St every day and locking up outside both day and night.

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Old 07-30-18, 11:17 AM
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If it's a bike which is going to be a commuter bike locked up outside a lot, I'd just replace the parts on that bike and continue to ride it rather than buy another bike to abuse out in the weather.
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Old 08-03-18, 04:11 AM
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Old 08-03-18, 05:48 AM
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It's a wonder it hasn't been nicked.

I've ridden bikes that haven't been used in decades, think the record was a Triumph 3-speed of about 40yrs. I just oiled the chain and hub, put some new tyres on, and off i went.

If it's got hydro brakes, they'll need bleeding. It's a modern bike so everything is sealed well enough with regard to bearings.
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Old 08-03-18, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rtwilli4 View Post
So the question is do I spend £200 on this bike or £200 on an eBay or Gumtree bike??
If you're taking it to a shop anthow, just take it in and ask them their opinion. As someone else mentioned, they'll be in a better position to answer than us with no pictures and vague description.

Shops around me won't do work on a bike that'll be unsafe when it leaves the shop. They should be able to tell you if it is a canidate for rehab, or if you should look for sonething new.

For my money? £200 in rehab on a known good product I own is more worthwhile than £200 spent on a bike of unknown history and needs.
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Old 08-03-18, 08:13 AM
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you say carbon and outside, i wouldnt ride it, uv could have damaged the resin the carbon
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