What a crazy guy did
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Video ended because right after that he got yanked off his bike from behind?
Gotta say though, it got results.
I'd like to see more video of him trying it with just a loudish double-ring bike bell. Maybe not get people to jump out of the way, but 90% less ill will.
Gotta say though, it got results.
I'd like to see more video of him trying it with just a loudish double-ring bike bell. Maybe not get people to jump out of the way, but 90% less ill will.
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I see pedestrians being people and behaving as could be expected.
Not as desired, but as expected.
And I see a cyclist escalating the incidents way beyond reason.
Probably creating several cyclist haters each ride.
One person doing something stupid by accident doesn't give someone else the right to do something stupid by intent.
The pedestrians didn't start the day thinking: "oh, I'm behind on my cyclist blocking quota this week, better see to it". The rider OTOH planned his actions.
Next time any of those honked on encounter a cyclist, they might be driving a car, then what?
It'd be oh so much easier for them to step things up further.
Maybe give a little "nudge" to educate that annoying cyclist, and to get back for being honked on.
Some people don't need much to feel justified.
Air horn vs car can be OK. You need it to be heard into the car.
Air horn vs mindless pedestrian - Not OK.
Voice or bell works fine for that.
I understand the rider's impulse, but I don't support his choice of action.
Not as desired, but as expected.
And I see a cyclist escalating the incidents way beyond reason.
Probably creating several cyclist haters each ride.
One person doing something stupid by accident doesn't give someone else the right to do something stupid by intent.
The pedestrians didn't start the day thinking: "oh, I'm behind on my cyclist blocking quota this week, better see to it". The rider OTOH planned his actions.
Next time any of those honked on encounter a cyclist, they might be driving a car, then what?
It'd be oh so much easier for them to step things up further.
Maybe give a little "nudge" to educate that annoying cyclist, and to get back for being honked on.
Some people don't need much to feel justified.
Air horn vs car can be OK. You need it to be heard into the car.
Air horn vs mindless pedestrian - Not OK.
Voice or bell works fine for that.
I understand the rider's impulse, but I don't support his choice of action.
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Oh my. Metropolis' are jungles aren't they? I don't agree with his strategy but that video was funny in a shocking sort of way. I'm sure he is bound to get messed up if he corners someone like that again at the end. I have no sympathy for the few pedestrians walking the wrong way in the bike lane.
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I don't feel bad for this guy.
My city has 3 streets with painted lanes. The cars don't understand why and will still honk and yell at me for "being in the middle of the road"
I've heard endless complaining that the lane is screwing up traffic. There is talk of removing it. It's the most bike unfriendly place I've lived.
So this guy has to slow down occasionally. Get over yourself dude.
My city has 3 streets with painted lanes. The cars don't understand why and will still honk and yell at me for "being in the middle of the road"
I've heard endless complaining that the lane is screwing up traffic. There is talk of removing it. It's the most bike unfriendly place I've lived.
So this guy has to slow down occasionally. Get over yourself dude.
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He'll be lucky if someone doesn't make him eat that horn.
Complete jerk move.
Complete jerk move.
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I'd hate to see how he drives a motorized vehicle.
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Effective but completely unnecessary
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sustainable for a short ride, unless there are refills stored in the jersey?
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If this were my riding experience on a daily basis I'd definitely get fed up and resort to something like this. I love how he even sounded the horn at the last guy a second time..
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Hmmm...I get the pedestrians walking in the bike lane = annoying as ****. That texting girl was just oblivious. But multiple instances of pedestrians crossing and he's honking for them to get out of his way? Just sounds like strung out jerk on a bike.
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Two wrongs don't make a right...
(But two Wright's made an airplane!)
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Got to admit I have a certain amount of sympathy. I cycle through some of those places myself and get very fed up with pedestrians treating bike lanes as an extension of the pavement (sidewalk). I almost ran into a girl the other day who was crossing one and suddenly stepped backwards for no readily apparent reason. Part of the problem is that because pedestrians can't hear you coming they just step into the road without looking. Bad enough when it's just a bike bearing down on them but with the rise in popularity of electric cars I can see the day coming when someone steps out in front of one of those instead.
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The resident cycling contrarian at Slate did a video about this. He made a case that it may be inconvenient sometimes, but that people using more of the street for activities and modes of transportation other than motor vehicles is a good thing and should be tolerated regardless of the form it takes. I think he sees it as ratcheting towards an increasing emphasis on infrastructure for pedestrians and cyclists. If a sidewalk and a bike lane isn't enough space to handle all the non-motored traffic, that's just a reason to make more space.
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Can they clone that Bike Lane dude and have him in every bike lane singing that song. It would certainly brighten my day to see and hear him riding near!
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The resident cycling contrarian at Slate did a video about this. He made a case that it may be inconvenient sometimes, but that people using more of the street for activities and modes of transportation other than motor vehicles is a good thing and should be tolerated regardless of the form it takes. I think he sees it as ratcheting towards an increasing emphasis on infrastructure for pedestrians and cyclists. If a sidewalk and a bike lane isn't enough space to handle all the non-motored traffic, that's just a reason to make more space.
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Good way to get yourself a free beat-down.
While I appreciate the guy imagines cars have the right of way in all "tight" situations involving the crossing of pedestrian walk zones, I have a hard time believing any court would support someone's claim that his method of forcing compliance was reasonable.
I'm all for a bell or horn in situations where someone's utterly oblivious and about to walk right into the path of an oncoming vehicle/bike. Then, let 'er rip.
But I have a real problem with laying on the horn in most other situations where people are just going along in the path because it's the appropriate way to get from here to there. Such as the guy in the construction zone who shoved Mr. Horn Man when he essentially rammed into the guy in full expectation the guy would step aside (in a construction area where there was no place to go. Assault, basically. On the part of Mr. Horn Man, I'd say.
A bad way to go. A lot of people won't take being forcibly made to cease being on foot simply because a cyclist (or anyone else) comes along demanding they exit.
While I appreciate the guy imagines cars have the right of way in all "tight" situations involving the crossing of pedestrian walk zones, I have a hard time believing any court would support someone's claim that his method of forcing compliance was reasonable.
I'm all for a bell or horn in situations where someone's utterly oblivious and about to walk right into the path of an oncoming vehicle/bike. Then, let 'er rip.
But I have a real problem with laying on the horn in most other situations where people are just going along in the path because it's the appropriate way to get from here to there. Such as the guy in the construction zone who shoved Mr. Horn Man when he essentially rammed into the guy in full expectation the guy would step aside (in a construction area where there was no place to go. Assault, basically. On the part of Mr. Horn Man, I'd say.
A bad way to go. A lot of people won't take being forcibly made to cease being on foot simply because a cyclist (or anyone else) comes along demanding they exit.
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In the text of the article, it's implying that this is mainly about scooters, skateboards, hoverboards, etc. Like you said, other vehicles moving faster than pedestrians walking, but the video itself is a little different. It shows plenty of people just walking along, clogging up the lane, guys moving a hotdog cart, construction materials waiting to be used... a lot of things that would certainly inconvenience or infuriate most cyclists.
His answer seems to be, "get over it." Bike lanes themselves aren't a perfect answer to the need for more low-speed, non-car, shared infrastructure, and until better solutions come along, just be happy that city planners are taking more and more space away from cars... Or something like that. I'm not sure it's a really well laid out argument, but I can kind of see his point.
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I see pedestrians being people and behaving as could be expected.
Not as desired, but as expected.
And I see a cyclist escalating the incidents way beyond reason.
Probably creating several cyclist haters each ride.
One person doing something stupid by accident doesn't give someone else the right to do something stupid by intent.
The pedestrians didn't start the day thinking: "oh, I'm behind on my cyclist blocking quota this week, better see to it". The rider OTOH planned his actions.
Next time any of those honked on encounter a cyclist, they might be driving a car, then what?
It'd be oh so much easier for them to step things up further.
Maybe give a little "nudge" to educate that annoying cyclist, and to get back for being honked on.
Some people don't need much to feel justified.
Air horn vs car can be OK. You need it to be heard into the car.
Air horn vs mindless pedestrian - Not OK.
Voice or bell works fine for that.
I understand the rider's impulse, but I don't support his choice of action.
Not as desired, but as expected.
And I see a cyclist escalating the incidents way beyond reason.
Probably creating several cyclist haters each ride.
One person doing something stupid by accident doesn't give someone else the right to do something stupid by intent.
The pedestrians didn't start the day thinking: "oh, I'm behind on my cyclist blocking quota this week, better see to it". The rider OTOH planned his actions.
Next time any of those honked on encounter a cyclist, they might be driving a car, then what?
It'd be oh so much easier for them to step things up further.
Maybe give a little "nudge" to educate that annoying cyclist, and to get back for being honked on.
Some people don't need much to feel justified.
Air horn vs car can be OK. You need it to be heard into the car.
Air horn vs mindless pedestrian - Not OK.
Voice or bell works fine for that.
I understand the rider's impulse, but I don't support his choice of action.
Good way to get yourself a free beat-down.
While I appreciate the guy imagines cars have the right of way in all "tight" situations involving the crossing of pedestrian walk zones, I have a hard time believing any court would support someone's claim that his method of forcing compliance was reasonable.
I'm all for a bell or horn in situations where someone's utterly oblivious and about to walk right into the path of an oncoming vehicle/bike. Then, let 'er rip.
But I have a real problem with laying on the horn in most other situations where people are just going along in the path because it's the appropriate way to get from here to there. Such as the guy in the construction zone who shoved Mr. Horn Man when he essentially rammed into the guy in full expectation the guy would step aside (in a construction area where there was no place to go. Assault, basically. On the part of Mr. Horn Man, I'd say.
A bad way to go. A lot of people won't take being forcibly made to cease being on foot simply because a cyclist (or anyone else) comes along demanding they exit.
While I appreciate the guy imagines cars have the right of way in all "tight" situations involving the crossing of pedestrian walk zones, I have a hard time believing any court would support someone's claim that his method of forcing compliance was reasonable.
I'm all for a bell or horn in situations where someone's utterly oblivious and about to walk right into the path of an oncoming vehicle/bike. Then, let 'er rip.
But I have a real problem with laying on the horn in most other situations where people are just going along in the path because it's the appropriate way to get from here to there. Such as the guy in the construction zone who shoved Mr. Horn Man when he essentially rammed into the guy in full expectation the guy would step aside (in a construction area where there was no place to go. Assault, basically. On the part of Mr. Horn Man, I'd say.
A bad way to go. A lot of people won't take being forcibly made to cease being on foot simply because a cyclist (or anyone else) comes along demanding they exit.
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... I have a real problem with laying on the horn in most other situations where people are just going along in the path because it's the appropriate way to get from here to there. Such as the guy in the construction zone who shoved Mr. Horn Man when he essentially rammed into the guy in full expectation the guy would step aside (in a construction area where there was no place to go).
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I need that for the commute. Mine is a bunch of idiot salmon without lights before dawn. But then half of my commute is on a highway, so few venture there.