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Old 09-24-18, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
And some people smoke without getting cancer, doesn't make it a good idea. Count yourself lucky if bouncing a bike on your back window doesn't result in cracking--so far.
I actually use the Seasucker on my other cars with glass backs. Tesla just has weak ass glass. It's a good idea for some, not for others. If it breaks it breaks. They can be replaced. I don't get too worked up about it.

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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
I actually use the Seasucker on my other cars with glass backs. Tesla just has weak ass glass. It's a good idea for some, not for others. If it breaks it breaks. They can be replaced. I don't get too worked up about it.

Serious question--do you have any other reason to believe that Tesla glass is especially weak? I really wouldn't know, but the OP is pretty lousy proof--maybe the roads are just bumpier where he lives.

Also, OP is complaining about it--your "if it breaks, it breaks" attitude actually seems more reasonable. You know you're taking a risk, so if it goes bad, it's on you..
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Serious question--do you have any other reason to believe that Tesla glass is especially weak? I really wouldn't know, but the OP is pretty lousy proof--maybe the roads are just bumpier where he lives.

Also, OP is complaining about it--your "if it breaks, it breaks" attitude actually seems more reasonable. You know you're taking a risk, so if it goes bad, it's on you..
Just that particular glass on that particular car, which happens to be on a Tesla. I had a chance to drive a Tesla for a few months and I did not like it. Even though the glass did not break when I used a sea sucker on it. Others love it. Such is the human condition, it is very dynamic. Life is a risk. Nobody makes it out alive. Internet handwringing is a waste.

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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Just that particular glass on that particular car, which happens to be on a Tesla. I had a chance to drive a Tesla for a few months and I did not like it. Others love it. Such is the human condition, it is very dynamic. Life is a risk. Nobody makes it out alive. Internet handwringing is a waste.

Well, at least you have chicken.
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i just think bad idea to put anything with weight on glass. I smacked a fly on the windshield (inside) a couple years ago and the windshield shattered while driving. Not nice.
On theatre hand, nice car. How long have you had it? I've been on the waiting list for well over a year. Probably time to order one. Worth it? Better than an S model or get a used "S"?
Crack has nothing to do with Tesla or being cheap, thin glass in my opinion. For that matter, then my Toyota Sequoia glass was cheap thin stuff too, but the truck has 320,000 miles on it and it just keeps going and going and going.......

sorry off topic!
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
I have that same warning on my R8 and so far it hasn't cracked.
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I actually use the Seasucker on my other cars with glass backs. Tesla just has weak ass glass. It's a good idea for some, not for others. If it breaks it breaks. They can be replaced. I don't get too worked up about it.
Is the entirety of the weight of the bike solely supported by one large piece of glass like the Tesla?



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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
No, im not a fanboy of Tesla. Dont own one, have never looked at em online, and dont plan to own one.

I am a fan of laughing at absurd conclusions though and yours was fantastically funny.

I like that you now claim Tesla's glass is for sure low quality. It simply wasnt designed to hold weight or be suctioned under dynamic stress.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Is the entirety of the weight of the bike solely supported by one large piece of glass like the Tesla?
Not on the R8, however, I use 2 bikes, so I don't know if the collective stress is the same. Sometimes I use 2 MTBs and have had no issues.
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Originally Posted by speedevil View Post
Nope. The manufacturer didn't select the roof glass for the 0.0001 % of owners that *might* use a suction cup bike mount on it. This is *not* a manufacturer problem in any way, shape, or form.

Take the wheels off, put them in a bag, and put the whole bike in the back of the car. Or, use a different vehicle to transport the bike.

I don't understand why some people are determined to use the wrong tool for the job - and then invariably blame the tool when it doesn't work - instead of accepting the responsibility for selecting the wrong tool and the consequences.
And that right there is the proper answer.
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the Wonkevator?
Not that kind of windowpane! Owsley had retired by then, anyway, hadn't he?
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Did Tesla replace it for you?

I just bought a SeaSucker as I thought that's what Elon recommended for Teslas. Now I am a bit worried. Did Tesla replace the glass under warranty, if not, how much was it?

Remove the space from my link below to see my review. You situation sucks, but I hope it is a fluke

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Was it just the suction that cracked the glass? If so, I'd say the glass was definitely defective. Those big suction cups are just like the ones glass installers use to handle windshields, etc.
That's true, but glass installers aren't subjecting their glass to the same stresses as the same glass going down the freeway at 70mph with a bike attached.

I briefly had a Sea Sucker bike rack for my Z. Great concept and likely would have worked as designed, but I just never had enough confidence in the system to use it beyond my neighborhood so I sold on eBay, the same place I found it. I kept envisioning my C50 bouncing down the interstate as I helplessly watched in my rearview mirror.
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Not that kind of windowpane! Owsley had retired by then, anyway, hadn't he?
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...es-2389160.php
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Hmmm... I used a Sea Sucker on the rear glass of my Honda S2000 hard top for years. I wonder if Tesla has thinner or weaker glass than common?
I would never think to try this on my own s2k, but this answers my question
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The typical back glass on a vehicle is tempered, that piece is laminated safety glass, like a windshield.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
+2. Ain't gonna happen. It's one reason I bought a Forester. Even my large LHT can fit in the back with both wheels on.
I originally got a Forrester for the all wheel drive for use in snow country but I'm very glad the bike fits inside under lock and key.
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Glass can be very strong. They can make them bullet proof. So glass is not the issue. THe issue is the poor quality of glass the car maker decide to use.
???

This doesn't make sense.
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The typical back glass on a vehicle is tempered, that piece is laminated safety glass, like a windshield.
???

Tempered glass isn't laminated glass (they are separate properties).
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???

Tempered glass isn't laminated glass (they are separate properties).
Just judging by the way the crack propagated without shattering, this looks to be laminated, and it did its job. The bike didn't pop into the cabin of the car accompanied by a cloud of broken glass shards.

If it had been tempered glass overloaded like this, there would probably be a pile of glass "pellets" all over the cabin of the vehicle. The safety feature is that the pieces of glass would not have been sharp.
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Just judging by the way the crack propagated without shattering, this looks to be laminated, and it did its job. The bike didn't pop into the cabin of the car accompanied by a cloud of broken glass shards.

If it had been tempered glass overloaded like this, there would probably be a pile of glass "pellets" all over the cabin of the vehicle. The safety feature is that the pieces of glass would not have been sharp.
Could be.

The following says that tempered glass is typically used in the side and rear but the Tesla's glass roof isn't typical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempered_glass

I was commenting on 02Giant's apparent conflation of "tempered" and "laminated".

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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
Could be.

I was commenting on 02Giant's apparent conflation of "tempered" and "laminated".
I don't think @02Giant actually conflated them. The post said the rear glass was laminated, and not tempered.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I don't think @02Giant actually conflated them. The post said the rear glass was laminated, and not tempered.
His comment was badly written then.
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This thread makes me glad I've been using a hitch rack for years. Works great, moves from one vehicle to another, holds up to 4 bikes, too.
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This thread makes me glad I've been using a hitch rack for years. Works great, moves from one vehicle to another, holds up to 4 bikes, too.
Best thing I ever did was have the trailer hitch installed on my car. Had a trunk-mounted rack, but it was causing damage. Roof rack is not an option on my rag top. Getting to the ride is half the fun when I can put the top down and cruise to the Cape with the bikes on the back.
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I just bought a SeaSucker as I thought that's what Elon recommended for Teslas.
Was that when he was lighting up joints in public, sued by the SEC, sleeping in his office? He might have been a little distracted. Check and see if he's deleted that tweet
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