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Old 06-04-19, 07:59 PM
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Just because a piece of glass is laminated doesn't make it super strong relative to a piece of tempered glass-- it just stays together when it breaks. Watch a FailArmy video. Most any one of them will have someone breaking a windshield by putting just the weight of one leg on it. Bikes are relatively light, but I"m not going to stick one to my glass hatch with suction cups, just because that sounds like a recipe for "something broken." Bike, glass, or both.
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Old 06-04-19, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Just because a piece of glass is laminated doesn't make it super strong relative to a piece of tempered glass-- it just stays together when it breaks. Watch a FailArmy video. Most any one of them will have someone breaking a windshield by putting just the weight of one leg on it. Bikes are relatively light, but I"m not going to stick one to my glass hatch with suction cups, just because that sounds like a recipe for "something broken." Bike, glass, or both.
I don't think anyone said that laminated is stronger, just that its "failure mode" is less likely to result in the bike actually crashing through than tempered. That's relevant here because this rear window is more like a roof than a hatch window. The bike wasn't just hanging from the window, it was resting on it.
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Old 06-04-19, 10:29 PM
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A friend has a Tesla X that contains absurd square meters of glass. Difficult to clean; Tesla seems to be the only company that advises against using Rain-X etc. Not surprised the Mod 3 glass breaks; even as the "affordable" Tesla style seems to trump function.
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Old 06-05-19, 11:17 AM
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I don't think this has anything to do with bike weight. From the looks of it, that's a full-carbon bike that's probably <15lbs, and only over half of that (due to the sloping angle) is supported by the rear glass.

The problem is the force generated by the suction cup's attachment area. I'm somewhat surprised it cracked in a circular pattern rather than randomly (though there is that crack going across the footprint). I'd argue that simply attaching a suction cup to the rear window would've cracked it.
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Old 06-06-19, 07:51 PM
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Weird coincidence, tonite a neighbor mentioned he was getting a Tesla 3 delivered soon, I told him about the Seasucker issue, just for fun 'cause he doesn't cycle anyway.
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Old 06-07-19, 05:46 PM
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There is something I just do not like about Tesla.
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Old 06-07-19, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajflyboy View Post
There is something I just do not like about Tesla.
Electric would seem to be eco but I think most Tesla owners (esp S & X) have 1 or 2 other vehicles so one has to consider the energy/pollution used to make an additional vehicle. In re the bike rack, I can't recall seeing a Tesla with a bike rack despite high local ownership. IMHO the whole company is a stock scam. Other current electrics are much cheaper & the big car companies are introducing ~auto-pilot cars so Tesla is basically toast.
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Old 06-08-19, 12:03 PM
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I'm no Tesla fanboy but no. The CHEAP EVs are still $35k-$42k which is the Model 3 SR and SR+ price range and the only other cars that are really worth looking at in that price range are the hyundai kona and kia niro.
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Old 06-08-19, 01:28 PM
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I'll stick with my Outback. No drama.
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Old 06-08-19, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by joelcool View Post
Hmmm... I used a Sea Sucker on the rear glass of my Honda S2000 hard top for years. I wonder if Tesla has thinner or weaker glass than common?
Hope it's not the same quality E. Musk is using on his SpaceX endeaver.
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Old 06-21-19, 09:30 AM
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fwiw: 2014+ Jeep Cherokees have a known issue w rear windows imploding w/o cause
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Old 06-21-19, 09:34 AM
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this was fun to watch

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Old 06-21-19, 09:38 AM
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Doesn't Tesla make a hitch receiver for the back?
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Old 06-21-19, 11:50 AM
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A good welding fabricator may make one on site.. why wait for Elon Musk to take the initiative?

Maybe get a Polycarbonate rear window .. Lexan the stuff that takes bird strikes on aircraft..
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Old 06-21-19, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wcollins00 View Post

You can see exactly what happened in these two photos. The crack goes precisely across the diameter of the suction cup's imprint and nowhere else.

The damage is localized to the site, indicating that the pressure differential on the two sides of the glass exceeded the strength of the glass.

The suction cup pulled too hard on your window and broke it.

And, to whoever considered mounting one of these on your aluminum roof, it will do the same thing there, but the damage bill would be far higher.
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Old 07-15-19, 06:42 AM
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The SeaSucker was not installed properly, is too far to the back of the roof. It should be all the way to the front.

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Old 07-15-19, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaSuckerTesla View Post
The SeaSucker was not installed properly, is too far to the back of the roof. It should be all the way to the front.
I still think the back of the bike would be resting on glass. Looks like it broke at both contact points. And as someone else pointed out, it's questionable whether the thin aluminum roof would be up to handling the weight of a bouncing bike.
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Old 07-15-19, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I still think the back of the bike would be resting on glass. Looks like it broke at both contact points. And as someone else pointed out, it's questionable whether the thin aluminum roof would be up to handling the weight of a bouncing bike.
There are a couple of errors or assumptions in your response... First the bike is not suppose to bounce if properly secured... Second the roof is not made of aluminum.
Also the whole roof is glass so all tires rest on the glass, the important part here is that the rear tire rests close to the cross bar in the middle of the roof. and the front tire rest close to the windshield. Finally the pedal crank needs to be secured with included velcro straps if not they can start spinning and hit the glass causing it to crack
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Old 07-15-19, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaSuckerTesla View Post
There are a couple of errors or assumptions in your response... First the bike is not suppose to bounce if properly secured... Second the roof is not made of aluminum.
Also the whole roof is glass so all tires rest on the glass, the important part here is that the rear tire rests close to the cross bar in the middle of the roof. and the front tire rest close to the windshield. Finally the pedal crank needs to be secured with included velcro straps if not they can start spinning and hit the glass causing it to crack
Whatever. I seriously don't believe that the glass was intended to support anything resting vertically on top of it no matter where it rested.

Did you just join the forum to post on this one subject? Crazy screen name.
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Old 07-15-19, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Whatever. I seriously don't believe that the glass was intended to support anything resting vertically on top of it no matter where it rested.

Did you just join the forum to post on this one subject? Crazy screen name.
Yes, I just did . I am going to return the SeSucker I dont want a broken roof or glass

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Old 07-15-19, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
After having worked at a glass shop when I was in school, there is no way I will ever use any rack that touches the back glass in any way. No matter how many racks are out there that utilizes the back glass, it is an extremely poor idea. While you can have great luck with one, it doesn't take much for that luck to disappear and the glass to be broken. Sorry, as much as I would love to fault Tesla for this, it isn't their fault, the back glass isn't designed for that use.
I'm with him.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of all the bike racks out there I would never hang my bike from a glass window in my car, truck, mini van....tesla, porsche.... Whatever.... It's not cool to me. No way.

And think about the OP and what he's going through..... Gee, was it the sea bee or the glass.?? A question that never be answered. I'm not going there.
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Old 05-14-21, 08:26 AM
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Tesla now recommends that the rear wheel mount be placed on the metal section below the back glass. NOT entirely on the back glass like above. YMMV.
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Old 05-18-21, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Just that particular glass on that particular car, which happens to be on a Tesla. I had a chance to drive a Tesla for a few months and I did not like it. Even though the glass did not break when I used a sea sucker on it. Others love it. Such is the human condition, it is very dynamic. Life is a risk. Nobody makes it out alive. Internet handwringing is a waste.
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Well, at least you have chicken.
I'm missing some prior context here, I guess... but that reply had me spitting coffee on my keyboard.
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Old 05-18-21, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by redcon1 View Post
I'm missing some prior context here, I guess... but that reply had me spitting coffee on my keyboard.
Hard to remember that far back, but I think he had a Leeroy Jenkins reference in his profile..
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Hard to remember that far back, but I think he had a Leeroy Jenkins reference in his profile..
Ha! Had to google that reference and now I remember
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