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Old 09-27-18, 08:07 AM
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Advice on hybrid pedals clips vs flat pedals

I've always ridden with mtb or bmx pedals-- big platforms,super grippy.

Thinking about making a compromise/switch possible.

Personal experiences with touring, bike packing, commuting, gravel/cx rides etc appreciated.

Considering the Crank Brothers Mallet pedal, or perhaps something similar.
https://www.bikenashbar.com/cycling/...e-pedals-cb-m3


Please comment-- what are your favorite clips or hybrid pedals and why?

I usually ride in hiking boots, but if I had pedals with clips, I'd be willing to consider getting some stiffer shoes.
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Old 09-27-18, 08:36 AM
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I have Shimano PD-A530 on my commuter bike. I use the SPD side 90% of the time. I like them. I keep a pair of tennis shoes at work to change into when I arrive.

The only times I use the flat side are when 1) I'm towing my daughter on her tag along, 2) Short trip to a store, or 3) I'm meeting someone after work and I don't want to carry a second pair of shoes in my bag. It's nice to have the option to ride with regular shoes and no retention.

The flat sides of the pedals are not particularly grippy, but they work well enough. If I'm riding with "regular" shoes I consider it a take-it-easy day.

I've never used any of the pinned, mountain bike, platform pedals. I don't know if I would like them or not. I know I like being attached with the SPDs. For me it's not so much a matter of efficiency or getting more power to the crank. I just feel more secure with good foot retention.
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Old 09-27-18, 09:29 AM
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it's fun to try new pedals but it's a whole thing man ... pedals, shoes, adjustments, new skills & possible pitfalls (literally) shoe hot spots cuz there are different stress points now that you're cleated in & more adjustments. all for what gain? fight the boredom? good enough reason for me, that's why I tried them. I won't wear them on tricky dirt trails tho, maybe some easy ones

for years my go to pedal situation was regular or flat pedals w/ 1/2 clips. they work with big shoes & winter boots as well, but with some modification. I like some foot retention

you can get cleated pedals that have cleats on just 1 side & like what you described on the other side. I like my FUNN Mambas. but for now, they are only for the road bike
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Old 09-27-18, 09:49 AM
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I used to use clipless but went back to flats.

DMR Vault pedals are the most comfortable pedals I've used:
https://www.dmrbikes.com/Catalogue/P...lt-2/Vault-NEW

Five Ten makes flat bike shoes used in mountain bike racing that have a special extra-grippy rubber on pedals with metal pins (like the drm vaults):
https://www.adidasoutdoor.com/FT07.h...07_color=Black

You can find cheaper pedals, but in my experience they're not as comfortable.
You can use cheaper shoes, but they don't grip the pedal as well. Five Tens grip the pedal down, forward, and back like clipless do, only direction it's different is up.
Five Tens are very comfortable to walk around in off the bike, they're pretty much just skate shoes with a different kind of rubber.

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I prefer platforms for everything but dedicated sport riding. To me there is simply no advantage to being clipped in for most of the riding I do.

When I ride in the city, sometimes I have to stop or slow unexpectedly and in those circumstances I prefer not being clipped in. On multi surface rides I sometimes wander into stuff that's pretty technical and have to dab a foot on occasion. In those circumstances I prefer not being clipped in. I also spend time out of the saddle and walking on most of my rides and I prefer regular shoes for that.

It all comes down to what you see as advantages and disadvantages of being attached to your pedals for the kind of riding you envision. One last consideration. If you go with non two sided clipless pedals and drive to where you start your ride, you run the risk of leaving your cleated shoes at home. I have done that a few times.
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Old 09-27-18, 12:25 PM
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Just recently I changed from clipless to platform pedals on my touring rig simply for convenience. Much easier to live with out on the road. I use BMX pedals with the removable pins. Often ride in sandals, too!
The road bike, which is used for daily workouts, has clipless on it as it does make a difference when riding hard. Of course the grocery getter cruiser has platform pedals. From where I sit clipless pedals are really useful when the need to extract performance from the pedal stroke is desired. For casual riding platforms are best.
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Old 09-27-18, 12:33 PM
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I use clipless shoes because I do a fair amount of long rides. My bike is a true hybrid - a road bike converted to a flatbar setup. I love it when riding in traffic. I have dual pedals. I like having the flat side for getting started after stops at red lights - it's faster than trying get clipped in. Once I get going, I clip in. I've also used toe straps and I like them pretty well. I still have the biking shoes made for toe straps that I bought in the 1980s. Very comfortable to ride in and to walk in. Kinda stylish too. I don't use the toe straps anymore because I prefer clipless when riding on longer rides. I have SPD cleats and the shoes are okay for walking in, such as in a grocery store for example.
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Get flat pedals with pins. There is zero need for being clipped in unless you are doing very fast road riding, and even then it could be questionable.
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Old 09-27-18, 02:08 PM
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I think Mallets are over kill for a touring/gravel/whatever bike. Those are intended more for downhill mtn bike. If you still want a bit of a platform with crankbrothers one of the candy models would make more sense.

The brand is personal preference. Most people including myself just stick to whatever they first start with which is usually SPD, I started with Time and 10 years later still on Time.
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Old 09-27-18, 03:15 PM
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I used to use bear traps but figured my shins are scarred up enough at this point. That and there not necessary for my hybrid so I swapped my clips for shimano platforms, IMO one of the best all around pedal there is, but do still hurt when you slip a foot and bash a shin.

Ironically while making a sharp left to stay on course I dragged my left pedal ever so slightly and it caught a lip on a concrete sidewalk. The rest is a bit of a haze. Anyhow the insert shows what resulted. Going under the knife for surgery 1 in a couple days.

The shimanos are a good bit wider than the stock pedals but I blame myself not the pedals.
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Old 09-27-18, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by backonblack View Post

I used to use bear traps but figured my shins are scarred up enough at this point. That and there not necessary for my hybrid so I swapped my clips for shimano platforms, IMO one of the best all around pedal there is, but do still hurt when you slip a foot and bash a shin.

Ironically while making a sharp left to stay on course I dragged my left pedal ever so slightly and it caught a lip on a concrete sidewalk. The rest is a bit of a haze. Anyhow the insert shows what resulted. Going under the knife for surgery 1 in a couple days.

The shimanos are a good bit wider than the stock pedals but I blame myself not the pedals.
Bset wishes for your surgery. Unfortunately I can relate.
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Old 09-27-18, 08:31 PM
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I use these SHIMANO PD-M647 Clipless Pedal with Outer Cage
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Old 09-27-18, 09:41 PM
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Went from SPD pedals to platform/spd. Finally removed the spd part. Just using flats and tired of flipping them to get the right side. Anything less then crits/tt racing, I cannot find a reason to clip in. Good flat pedals and gripping shoes make a grand combo!
No hot spots with a nice wide pedal. No slipping with the pins. Good rotation for my knees. Favorite combo has become Tevas with them. Comfortable, cool, walkable. Iím good!

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Old 09-28-18, 01:04 AM
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With the M647 you get to clip in either side (aka USB C), and with the width of an off-road platform for added support. Although to be honest, I've never ridden road clipless, so I wouldn't know if it mattered.
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Old 09-28-18, 06:23 AM
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Last year I put Shimano A530 dual pedals on my old hybrid bike, replacing standard platform pedals with plastic toe clips. I have a pair of SPD shoes I use for spin classes that I can use on that bike when riding alone on rides when I won't be doing much walking, or I can just ride in sneakers when biking with my wife or where there will be a lot of walking - has worked out great. On my road bike I have SPD-SL pedals.

I find I definitely prefer being attached to the pedals in one way or the other, especially when starting from a standstill on an incline or standing, but definitely overall, too. But, having that ability to walk like a normal human being during a ride is a major plus...
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Wellgo makes a big downhill platform pedal with pins on one side and SPD on the other, WAM D-10. Inexpensive, lightweight and near bulletproof.
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The Shimano PD-M647 is a good choice, if you don't mind a resin outer cage. Resin is the posh word for plastic. Although the plastic resin is quite durable.
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Chester Race Face's

No contest for me. It's all I want on any bike.

SUPER grippy. No slipping off by accident. But easy to move your foot when you want to.

Personally I hate clipless. I don't like being tied to the bike and I have a hard enough time finding decent sneakers that fit my square feet. I don't need another hassle with a different kind of shoes. But that's me.
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I went clipless. Found it helps my right leg stay straight when pedaling. Had many surgeries on it a few years ago and clipless just helps me.

Plus got tired of looking down at my leg and seeing lots of dry blood streaks when using the DMR's. Weird how I never felt it strike but see holes in my leg from the spikes on the pedal.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
Bset wishes for your surgery. Unfortunately I can relate.
thanks for the well wishes dude.

My surg was moved from monday to today, it seemed to have went well, much of the pain right after diminished after a nap. I'n not sure what kind of metal they used but I'll ask in 2 weeks. I will request to have it as a memento once its removed.

Sorry to go OT.

As far as clips go, personally they are an accident waiting to happen on a MTB or hybrid.

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These are my favorite: https://www.rei.com/product/116154/shimano-xt-pd-t8000-spd-pedals. SPD clipless one side, decently sized platform the other. Very versatile.

My Race Face Chesters are my favorite non SPD pedals, they work well for 99% of my riding.
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I have a pair of Shimanos that have SPD on one side and platform on the other (see pic below). I find them a pain in the keister to flip around and get to the "correct" side, especially from a stop.

Like a few other forum members, I've gone from platforms to SPD and am back to platforms again. I see no real advantage to being clipped into the bike. Others will no doubt carry on about how clipless pedals are the cat's meow, as I once did. I got tired of hot spots and my feet going numb. This no longer happens now that I'm back to platforms.

I really like the Shimano Saint MX80 pedals, but they have been discontinued. The Shimano GR500 is practically the same pedal with slightly more weight.

Shimano A530 Clipless/Platform Pedal:

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Originally Posted by backonblack View Post
thanks for the well wishes dude.

My surg was moved from monday to today, it seemed to have went well, much of the pain right after diminished after a nap. I'n not sure what kind of metal they used but I'll ask in 2 weeks. I will request to have it as a memento once its removed.

Sorry to go OT.

As far as clips go, personally they are an accident waiting to happen on a MTB or hybrid.
If that were true I'm pretty sure it would be well known by now.
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If that were true I'm pretty sure it would be well known by now.
Thats why I said personally. I ride aggressively and dont like the thought of my feet being tied to the pedals in a situation where I might need to plant a foot on the ground in a hairy situation. Had I been using clips during my accident it may of gone much worse. Just the sense of being tied to the bike while riding urks me.

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Thats why I said personally. I ride aggressively and dont like the thought of my feet being tied to the pedals in a situation where I might need to plant a foot on the ground in a hairy situation. Had I been using clips during my accident it may of gone much worse. Just the sense of being tied to the bike while riding urks me.
You're not "tied" to the pedals. In the event of an accident you would instinctively dislodge from the bike. That is an irrational conclusion that I suspect may be the result of a phobia of some sort. Nevertheless, I understand p phobias, and recognize that it is your decision to make.
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