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Old 10-08-18, 12:15 PM
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2015 Raleigh Roper. Upgrading the saddle

So I got a 2015 Raleigh Roper with a Furley frame.

I like everything. What a nice machine. I do not like the seat it came with. No idea if it's the stock or aftermarket. Need something larger, more comfortable, ideally padded. Surfas or Brooks. Looking at various options, many strong candidates such as Brooks Champion Flyer, a leather option but maybe something along the lines of Serfas dual density which looks promising at this point.

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The Brooks is padded?
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What information did you use to narrow down to Serfas Dual Density or Brooks? They're very different types of saddles at different price points. I prefer a saddle without a lot of padding. If you are planning to ride longer distances, you might be better off with less padding and conditioning your backside to handle it. It doesn't take too long. The one on your bike looks like the Origin8 classic lite. I haven't tried it myself, but it looks similar to the Turbo clone that I've used for a while.

Really, the only way to know if you'll like it is to try it out. Everyone's butt is different.
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Originally Posted by fiat0 View Post
Need something larger, more comfortable, ideally padded. Surfas or Brooks.
"More comfortable" doesn't tell us much... all saddles are intended to be comfortable, but different riders have different butts and ride in different ways. Saddle comfort is very complicated.
I'm confused about why you brought up Brooks after requesting padding. Brooks leather saddles have a hard, smooth surface with no padding.

How did you come up with your requirements?

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Absolutely no offense intended, but the saddle pictured is a POS. But saddles included with off-the-shelf bikes are usually POS. What’s unusual here is your reference to two completely different types of saddles you’re considering as replacements.

The Serfas is a padded saddle and the Brooks is a classic leather. They are on opposite ends of the saddle spectrum. Each has an admiring audience, so not trying to start a conflict, but those who prefer one rarely (if ever) consider the other.

Ultimately, your butt will tell you what it prefers. I would recommend you start with the general shape (flat, curved, or somewhere in the middle), then consider the level of padding (more is not always better), consideration of a cut-out or recessed channel, and finally price.

Knowing what works for me won’t mean anything to what might work for you. The only useful comments I could make are in the areas of quality and durability. Serfas is (IMHO) of fair quality and decent durability, considering the price. Padded saddles don’t last forever, and the more padded they are the less they seem to last. And while Brooks may cost more, their quality and durability is legendary. Brooks saddles can be difficult to position because they have notoriously short rails so if you like your saddle with a lot of set-back, consider yourself warned.

Otherwise, whip out the wallet and see if you can make your butt happy.

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gel saddles are soft , one of the thousand + saddle options in the marketplace.

an infinite number of 'which saddle you choose for me' threads already here..

you mention several choices, now go seek them out and actually sit on them .
it's your backside, not mine..

brooks cambium all weather may be good on a bike without mudguards,
if un padding not your cuppa, add a gel saddle cover.


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Of course Brooks and Serfas are different, I am trying to decide which way to go. Ultimately it looks like I will have to try both.
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Go the way your butt wants to go. Brooks Cambium is my butts favorite option but my butt cannot decide for your butt. I will say Serfas is usually not the direction to ever go in. They must go through a ton of product for their lifetime warranty because I know our shop gives away a lot of new crap because their old stuff failed. Their saddles are fine for really short rides every so often but I wouldn't want to sit on that squishy unsupportive thing for anything longer than a mile or two once a month.
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Try as I may, I cannot find a saddle more comfortable than the Serfas Dual Density. It looks goofy on my bike, but for me, it's the most comfortable saddle I've found. I'd prefer it if it were vinyl or leather covered because the Lycra (or whatever it is) creates a bit of friction. But it's still better than at least ten different saddles I've tried. It's also cheaper than the Brooks. I'd start there.

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This is the upgrade:

I just upgraded to this and it's a huge improvement. It went from being intolerable to just somewhat uncomfortable but I am getting used to it. Serfas RX sounds like an even more promising variant.

I paid all of $4 for this at a yard sale. It seems to sell for $10 on Fleabay.

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