Shimano Alivio M4000 V-Brake/Shifters VS. LX ST-M570 Brake/Shifters
10-13-18, 09:12 PM
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Shimano Alivio M4000 V-Brake/Shifters VS. Deore LX ST-M570 Brake/Shifters
Both are 3x9 sets and are compatible with V-Brakes. Which set is better and why? Not interested in other options.
Shimano Deore LX ST-M570 Brake/Shifter Pods
Shimano Alivio M4000 V-Brake/Shifter Pods
Shimano Deore LX ST-M570 Brake/Shifter Pods
Shimano Alivio M4000 V-Brake/Shifter Pods
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10-13-18, 09:49 PM
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LX is 2 levels above Alivio, but since they're both 3x9 the LX is obviously an older model. I think I'd prefer the older LX. The newer Alivio might perform better than the older LX, but the LX is probably more rugged. It looks more rugged, less plasticy.
10-14-18, 12:09 AM
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The LX is two finger, the Alivio is three finger.
The LX will probably be more suited to mtb with Alivio more a hybrid runner.
You can upshift with either thumb press or finger pull, with the Alivio. The LX only has finger pull upshifting.
The LX will probably be more suited to mtb with Alivio more a hybrid runner.
You can upshift with either thumb press or finger pull, with the Alivio. The LX only has finger pull upshifting.
10-14-18, 04:16 PM
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I have the Alivio on my FX 3. The rear shifter is great, brakes are great, I'm less crazy about the front shifter- needs a second push sometimes to stop clattering on big front small back gearing.
10-14-18, 04:53 PM
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"Better" for what? Does this question have real-world applications for you, or is it simply rhetorical? And, are they costing you the same? Are they in identical condition?
LX (now known as SLX) was considered the bottom end of Shimano's upper-end mountain components (LX,XT,XTR), while Alivio was/is near the bottom, just above Acera (IIRC).
Personally, everything else being equal, I'd go with these LX units over the Alivios. If there's a price or condition disparity, then obviously, that changes things, but without more info, nobody can tell you much more than "LX was higher up than Alivio".
LX (now known as SLX) was considered the bottom end of Shimano's upper-end mountain components (LX,XT,XTR), while Alivio was/is near the bottom, just above Acera (IIRC).
Personally, everything else being equal, I'd go with these LX units over the Alivios. If there's a price or condition disparity, then obviously, that changes things, but without more info, nobody can tell you much more than "LX was higher up than Alivio".
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I would go LX myself. I like the older stuff. However either one will be fine.
LX is not SLX just FYI. LX these days goes back to the olden days of Deore which was a touring groupset, of course the new stuff is more towards European trekking bikes and such and more flat bar but is still a reasonably solid groupset. SLX is newer and does take similar place for MTB but is not a direct replacement for LX
LX is not SLX just FYI. LX these days goes back to the olden days of Deore which was a touring groupset, of course the new stuff is more towards European trekking bikes and such and more flat bar but is still a reasonably solid groupset. SLX is newer and does take similar place for MTB but is not a direct replacement for LX
10-14-18, 05:19 PM
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"Better" for what? Does this question have real-world applications for you, or is it simply rhetorical? And, are they costing you the same? Are they in identical condition?
LX (now known as SLX) was considered the bottom end of Shimano's upper-end mountain components (LX,XT,XTR), while Alivio was/is near the bottom, just above Acera (IIRC).
Personally, everything else being equal, I'd go with these LX units over the Alivios. If there's a price or condition disparity, then obviously, that changes things, but without more info, nobody can tell you much more than "LX was higher up than Alivio".
LX (now known as SLX) was considered the bottom end of Shimano's upper-end mountain components (LX,XT,XTR), while Alivio was/is near the bottom, just above Acera (IIRC).
Personally, everything else being equal, I'd go with these LX units over the Alivios. If there's a price or condition disparity, then obviously, that changes things, but without more info, nobody can tell you much more than "LX was higher up than Alivio".
- Which set is better engineered?
- Which set is mechanically superior (crisper shifting)?
- Which set is more durable over time?
- Would a set of LX brakes/shifters from circa 2004 be better at the above than a current generation of Alivio?
The assumptions are ...
- Both sets have a minimal price difference.
- Both sets are either new or as new. And by "as new" I mean really like new and not the Craig's List version of as new, which means beat to crap.
EDIT: I guess what I'm asking for is if one of the tech savvy mechanic types could say, "Yes, due to trickle down technology the Alivio M4000 9-speed shifters are the same mechanically as the XT M770 Rapdidfire Plus 9-speed shifters. The only differences are cosmetic", all of my questions would be answered as the XT M770 would have to be better than the LX M570.
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10-14-18, 06:57 PM
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While the 'trickle-down" effect might have resulted in the new SLX being virtually identical to XT, I'd be highly skeptical of that being the case (but i'd be very interested to know for sure, if anyone knows.).
I agree with what veganbikes posted above, "I would go LX myself. I like the older stuff. However either one will be fine." (assuming the LX really is NOS, and costs about the same.)
Years ago, I built up a generic matte-black frame from JensonUSA, with the entire LX group from this era, and it was great (till one of my brothers crashed and dinged the frame, and I was so annoyed, I just sold it for a loss
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I agree with what veganbikes posted above, "I would go LX myself. I like the older stuff. However either one will be fine." (assuming the LX really is NOS, and costs about the same.)
Years ago, I built up a generic matte-black frame from JensonUSA, with the entire LX group from this era, and it was great (till one of my brothers crashed and dinged the frame, and I was so annoyed, I just sold it for a loss
)
10-15-18, 01:17 AM
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They do the same thing. I say buy the new ones, they are going to work immediately without you having to service them.
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