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Old 10-19-18, 07:56 PM
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Are older rider cheating with electric motors or am I losing wattage?

I was riding at a medium pace up a steep hill then out of nowhere these two at least fifty something couple totally blew past me. I am still trying to figure out if they were aided by motors or not all the way home. I know I am fat but I am now in much better shape but these people look too old to be this strong. This has never happened to me before.
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OMG 50 you say and going fast? No way. They must have motors.
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Well, sorry, I didn't mean to insult you when I passed. I'm an old fart who rides an ebike, I've passed a few guys on hills. I typically use the assist for hills and not much more, it depends on the length of the ride, wind and my time. So, we're not cheating, were gaining nothing by passing you, we're just out having a ride, else we'd probably be sitting in our recliners watching TV instead of riding. I don't post on Strava, or brag about my times or claim it was 'all me'.
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Old 10-19-18, 08:18 PM
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Blame the bike. That way you can justify buying a new one everytime you get passed by someone fitter than you. That may get expensive fast.
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Originally Posted by Obeast View Post
I was riding at a medium pace up a steep hill then out of nowhere these two at least fifty something couple totally blew past me. I am still trying to figure out if they were aided by motors or not all the way home. I know I am fat but I am now in much better shape but these people look too old to be this strong. This has never happened to me before.
I'm 57, and I'm pretty sure I am going to pass most "now in better shape" fat 20-somethings on almost any hill. I've never ridden an ebike in my life. I'm just in pretty damn good shape. Before you say anything this stupid again, try and think to yourself why is it there's so many of us old fart bicyclists?

Let's put in terms you might get- hills are a lot more forgiving of extra years than they are of extra kilos.
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Old 10-19-18, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Obeast View Post
I was riding at a medium pace up a steep hill then out of nowhere these two at least fifty something couple totally blew past me. I am still trying to figure out if they were aided by motors or not all the way home. I know I am fat but I am now in much better shape but these people look too old to be this strong. This has never happened to me before.
Keep riding and maybe one day you'll catch up to us 50-somethings.
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Old 10-19-18, 10:35 PM
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This has never happened to me before.
Yes, of course!
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Old 10-19-18, 11:20 PM
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I can't believe I had a motor all along and didn't even know it!

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Old 10-19-18, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Obeast View Post
I was riding at a medium pace up a steep hill then out of nowhere these two at least fifty something couple totally blew past me. I am still trying to figure out if they were aided by motors or not all the way home. I know I am fat but I am now in much better shape but these people look too old to be this strong. This has never happened to me before.
the best way to know if you are loosing wattage, is to buy a power meter. Then compare yourself to yourself over time on the same routes.

as far as the other people... they are on 2 wheels, wave to them and be happy for them.
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And they were riding Hi Ten SS/FG's too.

When all else fails, blame it on the Doppler effect.
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Old 10-20-18, 01:08 AM
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JFC. The only thing worse than a thread about how many people you pass, is one complaining about people passing you.

Are all cyclists this insecure?

Holy ****...and here come the cool guys. “I’m 97 and I pass fat 13 year old riding to middle school”.

Gross.



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Originally Posted by Obeast View Post
I was riding at a medium pace up a steep hill then out of nowhere these two at least fifty something couple totally blew past me. I am still trying to figure out if they were aided by motors or not all the way home. I know I am fat but I am now in much better shape but these people look too old to be this strong. This has never happened to me before.
You act like 50 something is old. My buddy is more than 10 years older than me. He is now 73 years old and still kicks my but on a bike after 15 years of riding with him. Age only matters in the top ranking of athletes. For the general population, conditioning and genetics rule the day.

Just accept the fact that there are people older than you that are better than you and it will likely always be that way. There are a lot more important things to worry about than worry hat someone else is doing.
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Old 10-20-18, 02:29 AM
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Can we get this topic moved to the 50-something subcategory?

Or the Clydesdale subcategory?

This is a fun Youtube video.


When you get to the end, you'll really see the difference between a heavy fit person, and a twig fit person.
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Old 10-20-18, 05:10 AM
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The real question is "did they wave as they passed you?"
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Old 10-20-18, 06:19 AM
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I don't so much mind getting passed by other riders. It's getting passed by the joggers while I'm doing a climb.
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Old 10-20-18, 06:39 AM
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Who cares. All of you were out cycling, and that is a good thing.
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This post just reminded me of a tip I’d like to share for all of us over 50. If you use an aluminum collapsing cane it can easily be fixed to the top tube with bungee chords. The tennis �� ball can be transported in the spokes.
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Anyone interested in starting a senior Mickey D tour?
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Old 10-20-18, 07:41 AM
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This post just reminded me of a tip I’d like to share for all of us over 50. If you use an aluminum collapsing cane it can easily be fixed to the top tube with bungee chords. The tennis �� ball can be transported in the spokes.
Is that to fend off the younger folks that are too fast on the hill climbs?

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Is that to fend off the younger folks that are too fast on the hill climbs?

Of course. The tennis ball however is for the bottom of the cane when walking. Because that’s just how us 50 year old folks roll.
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I see an older couple on a pair of matching Townie 8i all the time. They look like they're having a blast. There's a local older guy on a Stromer ST1X that consistently saves his Strava activities as "Bike Ride," and therefore takes down about twenty KOMS per ride. I've lately started to see more e-MTBs than regular MTBs-- out on the road, that is. This is probably because the e-crowd doesn't see the need to drive the 3-5 miles to the trailhead. Their bike has a motor.

But I have NEVER seen a road bike with a motor, or a e-bike of any kind that wasn't immediately identifiable as an e-bike. The Stromer is a prime example. Or anything mid-drive. They're also loud.

Just know this: I don't have a motor, and my aggregate average climbing speed is something like 9mph (sub-700 VAM)-- so if I pass you up a hill, you are slow.
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No motors. You are just weak. HTFU.
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Who cares. All of you were out cycling, and that is a good thing.
When you are right, you are right, and Rydabent in this case is right on target. Why give a darn about what other people ride?

What is it with the obsessive worrying about if someone else rides faster unless it is a race?
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When you are right, you are right, and Rydabent in this case is right on target. Why give a darn about what other people ride?

What is it with the obsessive worrying about if someone else rides faster unless it is a race?
Thread closed. What more could be said?




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OMG 50 you say and going fast? No way. They must have motors.
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