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Old 10-29-18, 09:47 AM
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Continental should be happy with me.

A couple weeks ago I had this flat that I was able to boot and make it home on. So what happens to my 2 week old tire?

The screw went thru the tire, tube and into the rim. I actually had to remove the tire and tube, then unscrew them from the rim as a group.

Used another boot as there was a pretty good cut to the tire as well, and made it home. So now I'm sporting yet another new rear tire.
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Old 10-29-18, 09:57 AM
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In the words of Forrest Gump, "It happens."
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Old 10-29-18, 10:00 AM
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wow, right in the middle. what are the odds?
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Old 10-29-18, 10:24 AM
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This is why I'm not an advocate of super expensive premium tires. $25 per tire is about my limit.

Yeah, yeah, I know. "You don't know what you're missing until you've ridden on a set of super expensive premium Brand-X tires!" This is true. And as long as I don't know what I'm missing, I'm just fine with that.
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I feel ya. Mine went through the tire, tire liner and inner tube but only dented the rim. And I didn't have to unscrew it/back it out. Your last two flats make me wonder what the heck is going on in the roads in Folsom?
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Old 10-29-18, 11:18 AM
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Old 10-29-18, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius View Post
This is why I'm not an advocate of super expensive premium tires. $25 per tire is about my limit.

Yeah, yeah, I know. "You don't know what you're missing until you've ridden on a set of super expensive premium Brand-X tires!" This is true. And as long as I don't know what I'm missing, I'm just fine with that.
I ride "super expensive premium Brand-X tires" (Vittoria Corsa G+, ~$70 in shops) for the ride. (I raced the magic carpet silk sewups a million years ago. A million years but the memories are etched in stone.) But I also used to race sailboats. When a forum mate suggested sailcloth as a casing repair the lightbulb went off. I've had a scrap of sailcloth for years (old fashioned Dacron like a small racing sailboat of the 1970s would use). Now I just cut an oversized casing from the scrap, glue it in with contractors contact cement (the stuff that comes in a can and has all kinds of solvent warnings) Repairs for tires such as yours are permanent and will easily outlast the tire. The sailcloth is at least as strong as the tire casing and is designed for very similar abuse. (I rode Cycle Oregon one year with 30,000' of mountain descents on a tire with a 1/4" slash. Looked ugly and I took the tire off and inspected it several times that week, but it served just as well as a new tire (and died months later of natural causes at full expected mileage).

So, if you live near a coast or Great Lake, look up your nearest sailmaker. Pay him a visit and ask if you can get a scrap of dinghy Dacron sailcloth. Go to Home Depot and get that can of cement. (The stuff for countertop laminates and the like.) And open the windows, turn on the fan.

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Old 10-29-18, 01:20 PM
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Two tires isn't going to help my profit share much, go get a few more flats please?
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Old 10-29-18, 01:59 PM
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Hey, you found my drywall screw!
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Old 10-29-18, 09:27 PM
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I hate cheap tires so many flats and so little durability. Yeah I could get a nail or screw in any tire but that is such a rare occurrence I see no reason to go cheap because something might happen. Yeah I could go out an eat a $100 dinner and then the next day fall off a bridge and die but that is not a reason to just eat generic store brand "ramen" and avoid bridges. Things happen and if my tire gets a hole so be it, I will replace it. Vittoria Corsa G+ are my personal faves and they are such a nice supple tire that really adds quite a bit to ride quality and the graphene in them really helps grip the road especially in the wet.
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Old 10-30-18, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I hate cheap tires so many flats and so little durability. Yeah I could get a nail or screw in any tire but that is such a rare occurrence I see no reason to go cheap because something might happen. Yeah I could go out an eat a $100 dinner and then the next day fall off a bridge and die but that is not a reason to just eat generic store brand "ramen" and avoid bridges. Things happen and if my tire gets a hole so be it, I will replace it. Vittoria Corsa G+ are my personal faves and they are such a nice supple tire that really adds quite a bit to ride quality and the graphene in them really helps grip the road especially in the wet.
Not following the restaurant/ramen logic, but the OP uses Conti GP 4000S II tires, which are competitively priced with Corsa G+ tires.
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Old 10-30-18, 05:00 AM
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Nailed it.

Yeah, ditto, the good but cheap tire route. Works for me. As long as they're not Gatorskins. There are some sacrifices I won't make. Riding on lead filled garden hose is one. I'd rather fix an occasional flat.

I'm not strong or fast enough for super spiffy tires to matter, so I look for discontinued and discounted tires that were midgrade or better when new. Snagged a set of 700x23 Schwalbe One V-Guards from Jenson last year for $15 each, then promptly kicked myself for not buying everything they had in stock. Great tires, just a wee bit prone to nicks and cuts, but for that price I ain't complaining.

After those were too cut up I switched to Conti Ultra Sport II, also about $15 each. Not quite as nice as the Schwalbes but not bad at all for cheap tires. No puncture shield but they seem to hold up well, don't cut as easily as the Schwalbes, grip really well. I can't find anything to complain about for the price. My '89 steel road bike likes 'em so I'm happy.

I really liked Conti Speed Rides on one of my hybrids ($20 for the pair, two years ago), but they were just a wee bit too wide for my old fenders. So after two years when the rear tire tread finally showed some real wear I replaced 'em with Conti Sport Contact II in 700x32, narrow enough for my old SKS Bluemels. I've ridden 'em about 100 miles in 20-30 mile segments, still not sure whether I like 'em as well as the Speed Rides. Totally different tires. The Speed Rides are dry weather cyclocross-lite tires, suitable for pavement without feeling like sludge, outstanding on dry gravel and grass. Specs were unimpressive but they felt like expensive tires, with very flexible compliant sidewalls, and tread just thick enough to get the job done and resist punctures, yet never felt sluggish. The Sport Contact II are more urban pavement tires, much thicker tread, more rigid and less compliant sidewalls. They felt harsh at 65 psi so I'm gradually reducing pressure until I find the sweet spot. Still, for only $12 each via a recent Nashbar blowout, I'm not complaining.

And the Michelin Protek Cross Max set I got for my comfort hybrid/errand bike are still going strong after three years of ignoring broken glass, construction site debris, nails, screws, pretty much everything -- no puncture flats. Half the price of Schwalbe Marathons as of 2015, although the exchange rate is much more favorable now and Schwalbes are a great value in US currency now.
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Old 10-30-18, 09:22 AM
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Well, at least it didn't go through the sidewall! You know how frail those Conti sidewalls are.

Also good news that the drywall screw didn't go through your rim - that happened to a buddy. Replacing a tire = cheap. Replacing a rim, not so much.
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Old 10-30-18, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
Well, at least it didn't go through the sidewall! You know how frail those Conti sidewalls are.

Also good news that the drywall screw didn't go through your rim - that happened to a buddy. Replacing a tire = cheap. Replacing a rim, not so much.
Actually it did go through the sidewall - or something did. It left a 1/2" long cut in the sidewall. That cut was the main reason for the boot.


… and it also went into my rim, but did not come back out. I'll use this as justification for a deep dish rim

The hole looked surprisingly clean, the screw went straight into it. So I put a new wrap of rim tape on and called it good. If my rim explodes down the road, hopefully I'll be able to post about that, too - but I'm hoping not.

As far as the price of tires, I'm happy with the performance and durability of the 4000s and have been for years. I'm currently running through a wave of flats but hoping that it will subside at some point soon. I can buy 2 tires for what it costs me to fill my truck with fuel once, so I'm not going to get very excited about the cost of the tires I choose to run on my bike.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius View Post
Not following the restaurant/ramen logic, but the OP uses Conti GP 4000S II tires, which are competitively priced with Corsa G+ tires.
If memory serves I was responding to you rather than directly to OP. The GP4000s were the second choice for the bike and almost made it but I wanted to give Vittoria a try after not really being a fan of their stuff for a while but saw the graphene and was like ok, I am game to try the new wonder material and am so extremely happy I did. I just wish I could get it on other tires that were wider and similar construction or at least folding beads.
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