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Old 10-30-18, 08:23 PM
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Blunders

When you lace a new wheel, spokes are all snugged up and the wheel spins true, you go to do the final tensioning and notice you've rotated he hub in the wrong direction.
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Old 10-30-18, 08:24 PM
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Say what?
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Old 10-30-18, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
Say what?
You know how you have a nice clear gap in the spokes where the valve stem sits? To make it easier to attach the pump? I made a minor error and crossed the spokes over that spot. I'm just annoyed at myself for getting all the spokes laced before noticing. Easy to correct, but tedious to correct.
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Old 10-30-18, 08:45 PM
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A one time mistake.
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Old 10-31-18, 06:38 AM
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I did this once long ago and lived with it for many years. Finally broke down and relaced correctly. You are reminded of the error every single time you add air. I have never done this a second time.
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Old 10-31-18, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
You know how you have a nice clear gap in the spokes where the valve stem sits? To make it easier to attach the pump? I made a minor error and crossed the spokes over that spot. I'm just annoyed at myself for getting all the spokes laced before noticing. Easy to correct, but tedious to correct.
I have learned so much from my mistakes I may make a few more.
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Old 10-31-18, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopdriver View Post
I did this once long ago and lived with it for many years. Finally broke down and relaced correctly. You are reminded of the error every single time you add air. I have never done this a second time.
I'll relace this week. My friend and I are both doing wheels. Might as well relace now while we have all the tools and supplies out.
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Old 10-31-18, 09:25 AM
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Did this when building the rear wheel for our tandem back in '78 - and it's a 48-spoke wheel so the spacing is even tighter. But it's never bothered me enough to rebuild it, so it's still that way 30 years later.
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Old 10-31-18, 01:23 PM
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got before & after pics? just trying to understand
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Old 10-31-18, 02:01 PM
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The set of wheels I am on now are both built this way intentionally. Call it a trade mark of sorts. No one else does it, so I do. I hate to follow the rules. I am a pirate.
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Old 10-31-18, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
got before & after pics? just trying to understand
Good idea!

Mistake first. The chuck is on the valve hole, and already it doesn't fit well. Having a tube in place will make things worse.



My other wheel that's built right. Notice the huge amount of clearance.

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Old 10-31-18, 03:20 PM
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Hmm, never had that problem making sure the spokes are all in the right position from the start.

But I did notice you lace the lead spokes on the inside of the hub flange (though pic not real clear). I always lace my rear wheels so that the trailing spokes are on the inside of the hub flange. I've read this supports the trailing spokes from flexing as they get most of the stress while pedaling.

Some builders say it doesn't matter but I take every measure possible to make sure my wheels don't fail. A couple local builders said it didn't matter after I pointed it out. Of course the wheels they built for me lasted 2,000 miles and the other only 40 miles.

My wheels lasted 20,000+ so why not?

Needless to say I build my own now and stopped wasting my money on the local bike shop "pros".

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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
Mistake first. The chuck is on the valve hole, and already it doesn't fit well. Having a tube in place will make things worse.
My other wheel that's built right. Notice the huge amount of clearance.
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Old 10-31-18, 04:23 PM
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Too many spokes.

If you left out half of the spokes, then there would be plenty of space for your pump.
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Old 10-31-18, 04:28 PM
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They say practice makes perfect, mind if I send you a wheelset to build and practice on for me?

What are they for? What hubs ya using?
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Originally Posted by GuessWhoCycling View Post
But I did notice you lace the lead spokes on the inside of the hub flange (though pic not real clear). I always lace my rear wheels so that the trailing spokes are on the inside of the hub flange. I've read this supports the trailing spokes from flexing as they get most of the stress while pedaling.
I only just learned yesterday evening that what you describe is an issue. Some apparently also worry about spokes bowing outward under extreme stress and catching the derailleur or brake rotor, and I read at least one suggestion of lacing differently per side to account for the direction of torque on the drive side versus the rotor side. I'm going to stay the course on my current build. My other three wheels are holding up, and I'll get more fluent with the subtleties as I gain experience.
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Originally Posted by GrainBrain View Post
They say practice makes perfect, mind if I send you a wheelset to build and practice on for me?
Yes. For sure. I'm getting better. Wish I had taken the leap years ago.

What are they for? What hubs ya using?
The blue wheels are a friend's. They are Spank Spoon 32 rims laced to Shimano SLX hubs. They'll go on to a Rockhopper Pro 26er that is a burnt-orange frame. Should be a good look.

The other wheels are mine, and are just a spare set of Pacenti DL31 rims that I'm lacing to some XT hubs. We both went with Shimano hubs for the value. Hard to beat the value for the price with Shimano components.
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