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Old 11-02-18, 08:12 AM
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Need advice on a Fuji Absolute 4.0

Hi there!

I'm new to bike commuting and am looking to buy a used bike to get started. I had read great things about the Fuji Absolute, and found one on Craigslist.

The seller said that it used to belong to his roommate who has since left the city, and that it has been well-maintained/stored inside.

At first I thought this seemed like a great deal, since new Absolutes can retail for so much more than $240. However, I did some more research, and it looks like this particular model (4.0) hasn't been manufactured since 2012 according to bicyclebluebook.com. So now I'm wondering if the seller is asking for way too much for it.

I'm meant to go check it out this weekend, so I would appreciate any advice anyone might have! Is this worth going to see, or is it priced unreasonably high?

Many thanks in advance!!

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Old 11-02-18, 08:19 AM
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PS, wish I could post a link or photo but apparently I can't until I've hit 10 posts! If you feel like it, you could search "Fuji Absolute" on Boston Craigslist and that will bring it up!
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Old 11-02-18, 09:04 AM
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Here is a good trick, go post in other threads and make friends and become a member of the community. Don't just ask a question a leave like so many others. This is a great forum with tons of different opinions and some decent people.

Just for your info Fuji's number system goes like this x.y where x is the quality of frame and y is quality of components the lower number like 1 is going to be higher quality a 4.0 is generally going to be the lowest quality. Fuji is also owned by ASI which owns a lot of cool older brands that have now been kind of lost in a see of mediocrity. Joe Breeze pioneered the first mountain bike in the U.S. (or at least one of them) and Kestrel did some really early full carbon frames, SE did some awesome BMX stuff at one point well before ASI took over but Performance used to sell Campagnolo (a high end Italian component manufacturer that won probably most of the road races in the 20th century). The quality has significantly declined and was at a similar point in 2012 as well.

I would try and test ride some bikes and get a feel for what you are looking for. Your local bike shop or LBS will usually allow you to do this and sometimes private sellers on craigslist will allow it but with used bikes you need to worry about several factors. Is the bike stolen? Has the bike been well kept maintained? Was it a mid range or higher end bike (especially if an older bike). The reason you want a higher end bike when looking used is because lower end stuff doesn't hold its value well and sometimes wasn't worth the initial selling price. Some older higher end stuff can still hold some value or is more likely to hold value. Also check to see if there are dents or cracks in the frame. Especially with aluminum and carbon fibre dents and cracks are bad and mean a frame that is unsafe. It is useful to note that with a used bike you won't get any warranties on the bike so if it has issues you are SOL.

The reason to test ride bikes is so you can get a feel for the frame and components and see if it is something you want to ride. The saddle won't really tell you much so you can ignore that (yes pain is a possibility in those short rides) but you want to see if the frame is comfortable because typically aluminum frames and forks are a bit more stiff and rigid and lead to a poor ride. Also you want to know if the gearing is going to work for your needs. Granted your gearing can be changed but that will add cost and sometimes it can be quite a bit of cost if you also have to replace derailleurs and shifters.

When looking at a bike if you see Tourney or a derailleur that just says SRAM and nothing else you will certainly want to avoid that. Generally most quality components are going to be 9 speed on up and lower quality stuff is going to be 8 speed and below at least these days the farther you go back the more likelihood you can have of finding some higher quality 8 or below components. For mountain bike components generally it is good to look around Deore and up and for road I generally will stick around 105 to get good quality but the 1 step down from those Alivio and Tiagra is certainly better then in past years.
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Old 11-02-18, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sammoyer View Post
The seller said that it used to belong to his roommate who has since left the city
The above sounds fishy - might indicate the bike is stolen. Definitely check the frame number if you intend to have a look at the bike.
This seems to be the bike in question: https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...732640582.html
From the only not very high resolution picture, looks like it has the cheapest Shimano drivetrain (Tourney), but it's impossible to tell the wear of it's components. I don't know what the average used bike prices are over there, but I'd say it isn't worth $240.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Here is a good trick, go post in other threads and make friends and become a member of the community. Don't just ask a question a leave like so many others. This is a great forum with tons of different opinions and some decent people.

Just for your info Fuji's number system goes like this x.y where x is the quality of frame and y is quality of components the lower number like 1 is going to be higher quality a 4.0 is generally going to be the lowest quality. Fuji is also owned by ASI which owns a lot of cool older brands that have now been kind of lost in a see of mediocrity. Joe Breeze pioneered the first mountain bike in the U.S. (or at least one of them) and Kestrel did some really early full carbon frames, SE did some awesome BMX stuff at one point well before ASI took over but Performance used to sell Campagnolo (a high end Italian component manufacturer that won probably most of the road races in the 20th century). The quality has significantly declined and was at a similar point in 2012 as well.

I would try and test ride some bikes and get a feel for what you are looking for. Your local bike shop or LBS will usually allow you to do this and sometimes private sellers on craigslist will allow it but with used bikes you need to worry about several factors. Is the bike stolen? Has the bike been well kept maintained? Was it a mid range or higher end bike (especially if an older bike). The reason you want a higher end bike when looking used is because lower end stuff doesn't hold its value well and sometimes wasn't worth the initial selling price. Some older higher end stuff can still hold some value or is more likely to hold value. Also check to see if there are dents or cracks in the frame. Especially with aluminum and carbon fibre dents and cracks are bad and mean a frame that is unsafe. It is useful to note that with a used bike you won't get any warranties on the bike so if it has issues you are SOL.

The reason to test ride bikes is so you can get a feel for the frame and components and see if it is something you want to ride. The saddle won't really tell you much so you can ignore that (yes pain is a possibility in those short rides) but you want to see if the frame is comfortable because typically aluminum frames and forks are a bit more stiff and rigid and lead to a poor ride. Also you want to know if the gearing is going to work for your needs. Granted your gearing can be changed but that will add cost and sometimes it can be quite a bit of cost if you also have to replace derailleurs and shifters.

When looking at a bike if you see Tourney or a derailleur that just says SRAM and nothing else you will certainly want to avoid that. Generally most quality components are going to be 9 speed on up and lower quality stuff is going to be 8 speed and below at least these days the farther you go back the more likelihood you can have of finding some higher quality 8 or below components. For mountain bike components generally it is good to look around Deore and up and for road I generally will stick around 105 to get good quality but the 1 step down from those Alivio and Tiagra is certainly better then in past years.
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Thank you both for the advice @veganbikes and @subgrade!! The x.y info is super helpful and thank you subgrade for finding and checking out the post -- that's the one! Okay, I think I might just pass on this bike. Seems like the price is too high regardless, and you're right that it seems a little suspicious.

I found one other Craigslist option I think I'm going to check out -- a 2008 Marin Muirwoods listed for $60, which really does seem like a fair price. Have heard great things about this line of bikes too! I figure even if it end up needing some TLC, it will still work out to be a great deal.

If that one doesn't work out, I do have a local bike shop that let me know they usually have a range of used bikes in the $250-$265 range, which seems fair considering it'll be road ready and they'll help fit me for it!

Appreciate all the advice! Thanks so much!!
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post

I would try and test ride some bikes and get a feel for what you are looking for. Your local bike shop or LBS will usually allow you to do this and sometimes private sellers on craigslist will allow it but with used bikes you need to worry about several factors. Is the bike stolen? Has the bike been well kept maintained? Was it a mid range or higher end bike (especially if an older bike). The reason you want a higher end bike when looking used is because lower end stuff doesn't hold its value well and sometimes wasn't worth the initial selling price. Some older higher end stuff can still hold some value or is more likely to hold value. Also check to see if there are dents or cracks in the frame. Especially with aluminum and carbon fibre dents and cracks are bad and mean a frame that is unsafe. It is useful to note that with a used bike you won't get any warranties on the bike so if it has issues you are SOL.

The reason to test ride bikes is so you can get a feel for the frame and components and see if it is something you want to ride. The saddle won't really tell you much so you can ignore that (yes pain is a possibility in those short rides) but you want to see if the frame is comfortable because typically aluminum frames and forks are a bit more stiff and rigid and lead to a poor ride. Also you want to know if the gearing is going to work for your needs. Granted your gearing can be changed but that will add cost and sometimes it can be quite a bit of cost if you also have to replace derailleurs and shifters.

When looking at a bike if you see Tourney or a derailleur that just says SRAM and nothing else you will certainly want to avoid that. Generally most quality components are going to be 9 speed on up and lower quality stuff is going to be 8 speed and below at least these days the farther you go back the more likelihood you can have of finding some higher quality 8 or below components. For mountain bike components generally it is good to look around Deore and up and for road I generally will stick around 105 to get good quality but the 1 step down from those Alivio and Tiagra is certainly better then in past years.
This is awesome advice for checking out used bikes -- THANK YOU. I think I'll probably end up going to a shop, but there is one more listing I found online that I do want to check out -- a 2008 Marin Muirwoods (steel frame!) Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by subgrade View Post
The above sounds fishy - might indicate the bike is stolen. Definitely check the frame number if you intend to have a look at the bike.
This seems to be the bike in question: https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...732640582.html
From the only not very high resolution picture, looks like it has the cheapest Shimano drivetrain (Tourney), but it's impossible to tell the wear of it's components. I don't know what the average used bike prices are over there, but I'd say it isn't worth $240.

Definitely not worth $240. Brand new bikes with Tourney aren't much more than that.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop...e-2018-31-8563


But hey, why miss the twofer possibility? Overpriced AND stolen!
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Originally Posted by sammoyer View Post
This is awesome advice for checking out used bikes -- THANK YOU. I think I'll probably end up going to a shop, but there is one more listing I found online that I do want to check out -- a 2008 Marin Muirwoods (steel frame!) Thanks again!
No worries, happy to help. Hope we see you around her more. Be careful with the next bike, as well bikes at that price can seem like a deal until you realize the work that will go into fixing it and replacing parts. Steel frames are generally nice especially if not made of hi-ten steel but more modern generic stock frames aren't super high value. However one hopes it is a good deal and hope with the little info I could provide that you have the knowledge you need to navigate with the right caution. Still though getting a new bike is the better way to go especially for a first bike, spend some money and get something decent that you will enjoy riding. Start a project bike once you know what you like and don't like about your other bike. Especially if you want to get riding sooner. I have about 4 projects going for myself and then two others for friends and I am just so glad I have other bikes to ride. If I had the time and funds I could get them done much faster but working in a shop doesn't leave a ton of time to work in the shop for me.
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Thanks a bunch! Have a swell day : )
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