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Old 11-09-18, 12:12 AM
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Old 11-09-18, 06:00 AM
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I am not sure what LBS you go to but my LBS is awesome we just got 30% off a 2019 carbon Ultegra bike. We have been shopping there for years and they treat us very well.
If they didn't include the complimentary $5 pedals, you got robbed, according to the OP.
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Old 11-09-18, 06:09 AM
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Why wouldn't they? The last time I went bike shopping, I looked at a Specialized and a Trek. The Specialized demo model came with some cheap pedals already on it, so I just used those. At the Trek shop, they noticed I had SPD shoes on, so they quickly took the demo bike in the back and stuck some SPD pedals on it for me to test-ride with. Wouldn't this be standard procedure for these shops, to just either put on some cheap pedals if you want to test-ride, or to put on some others to fit your shoes if they happen to have them handy?
I'm taking it that the complete lack of anyone claiming that a lbs refused to put on a pair of pedals for a test ride is really good proof you're absolutely right. Can you imagine a lbs turning away a serious shopper because they don't want to do about 3 minutes of work? I suppose there might be lbs locations where they don't allow test rides, but that wouldn't be the reason.
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Old 11-09-18, 07:01 AM
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Agree-bikes should come with pedals. Why? When you go to sell the bike, so you can stick the cheap pair of platform pedals back on so the bike may be test ridden by someone interested in purchasing it. If it didn't come with pedals and you are not like me (who has maybe a dozen old cheap platforms in a box), then when someone shows up to check out your bike, and doesn't have cleats that go along with your clipless pedals, it may not be comfortable for them to test ride. So there's my reason for pedals to come along with the bike. Yes, you could go out and buy some cheap platforms, but it wouldn't hurt to have them come along with the bike.

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Old 11-09-18, 07:48 AM
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Agree-bikes should come with pedals. Why? When you go to sell the bike, so you can stick the cheap pair of platform pedals back on so the bike may be test ridden by someone interested in purchasing it. If it didn't come with pedals and you are not like me (who has maybe a dozen old cheap platforms in a box), then when someone shows up to check out your bike, and doesn't have cleats that go along with your clipless pedals, it may not be comfortable for them to test ride. So there's my reason for pedals to come along with the bike. Yes, you could go out and buy some cheap platforms, but it wouldn't hurt to have them come along with the bike.

Wow, that's confusing.

What it appears is that Trek and Giant have decided that putting cheap platforms on bikes makes economic sense for them up to the $1200 list price point, and not above that.

I find it next to impossible to believe that if you were purchasing a $2000 bike at a LBS, that they wouldn't throw in a $12 pair of platforms if you asked them. They almost certainly have boxes full of take-offs that they keep for just that and test ride purposes.

If you're purchasing your bike online, the logic of "put pedals on them for test rides" makes no sense at all.
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Old 11-09-18, 09:24 AM
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Bikes could come with 'meat-on-a-stick' pedals- like corn dogs.

Then when you got home & put on the real ones, you could eat them.

"I've got a beef: pedals"!
Beef pedals would be great for long MTB rides. Jerky wrapped handlebars might be more convenient, you wouldn't have to stop to eat.
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Old 11-09-18, 09:29 AM
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One good thing about not having pedals on higher end bikes on a salesroom floor is that it makes ride-out-the-door theft more difficult.
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Old 11-09-18, 09:34 AM
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Beef pedals would be great for long MTB rides. Jerky wrapped handlebars might be more convenient, you wouldn't have to stop to eat.

Actually, beef by itself would be too low carb. Maybe pedals made of Swedish Fish?
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Old 11-09-18, 10:49 AM
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I suppose there might be lbs locations where they don't allow test rides, but that wouldn't be the reason.
The LBS closest to me doesn't allow test rides. They say they'd have to clean the bike after a test ride! The horror!

Needless to say, I bought a bike elsewhere.

I don't recall if it came with pedals... if so, they're out in the shed somewhere gathering dust.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
The LBS closest to me doesn't allow test rides. They say they'd have to clean the bike after a test ride! The horror!

Needless to say, I bought a bike elsewhere.

I don't recall if it came with pedals... if so, they're out in the shed somewhere gathering dust.
Wow, good call!

Unless they're located in a swamp or a desert subjected to dust storms, I would take the fact that they're too lazy to clean a little schmutz off of a bike as a reason I wouldn't want to touch anything they'd assembled or serviced.
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Old 11-09-18, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
Beef pedals would be great for long MTB rides. Jerky wrapped handlebars might be more convenient, you wouldn't have to stop to eat.
Yeah, but nuisance dogs might be more of a problem.
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Old 11-09-18, 01:41 PM
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The BF Bicycling Enthusiast Smugness Factor™ is strong in this thread, perhaps it should be moved to the Road Cycling Forum.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
If they didn't include the complimentary $5 pedals, you got robbed, according to the OP.
You're mouthy. But I'm sure you know that because others have told you.
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Old 11-09-18, 05:18 PM
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You're mouthy. But I'm sure you know that because others have told you.
Sick burn, bro.
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Originally Posted by BirdsBikeBinocs View Post
You're mouthy. But I'm sure you know that because others have told you.
OP, if what others on Web forums say about you is worth taking seriously, as you seem to imply with this post I've quoted, perhaps you could learn something from the general reaction to your original post.
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Old 11-09-18, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
One good thing about not having pedals on higher end bikes on a salesroom floor is that it makes ride-out-the-door theft more difficult.
Serious question, how often does that happen?
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Serious question, how often does that happen?
For me, once in about 4 years bike shop working, that I know of.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
For me, once in about 4 years bike shop working, that I know of.


Might have been more with corn dog pedals.
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...perhaps you could learn something from the general reaction to your original post.
I have; see I've Got A Beef: Pedals
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I like to cook well while touring.

Da-uum!

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Turkey.?? Where's the Beef.??
​​​​​​​Right? We've been on a big turkey kick for a few years now, for sure I'll be getting some ground chuck or something soon!
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Was the product description unclear or incorrect? Otherwise, this was a voluntary transaction that did not include fraud and your claim of highway robbery is unfounded.
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Was the product description unclear or incorrect? Otherwise, this was a voluntary transaction that did not include fraud and your claim of highway robbery is unfounded.

It's worse than that--this guy was talking about a hypothetical transaction he hadn't even made yet, and thinks it's highway robbery that they aren't offering a $200 discount to compensate for the lack of $12 pedals on a $2000 bike.

I'm almost certain that 90% of LBS would throw in a cheap pair of pedals if he asked, or even give him a bit of a discount on a more expensive pair.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Serious question, how often does that happen?
Stopped into a high end shop in NE Italy back in 2013. The very expensive bikes (I am talking top of the line Pinarellos) inside the shop were cabled together.
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Old 11-12-18, 02:09 PM
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I just love all the replies here about how great it is that pedals don't come with a bicycle. It's laughable.
I donít think anyoneís saying itís a particularly wonderful thing, just that itís completely understandable given the range of pedals that different cyclists prefer.

Any bike manufacturer who would include a pair of SPD-SLs with their $1500/105 specced/Al-frame offering would essentially be throwing half of those pedals in the trash (or at least onto Craigslist/eBay). Even cheap platforms would, in most cases, be taken off, never to be ridden again.

My wifeís Diamondback Airen came with metal pedals with toe clips and straps. The first thing that came off was the clips and straps, obviously. Then when she agreed to try clipless, the pedals came off, to be replaced by a pair of campus pedals I had sitting in the garage. The cage pedals have sat in a box in our garage ever since.

Pedals are a very personal thing with bikes, especially above a certain price point. By not including them with the bike, the manufacturer gives the customer the freedom to choose their own.
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So let me get this straight....

I'm going to spend $2,000 for a bike without a motor and it can't be ridden until I buy some pedals for it. And I can't ask for 10% off the bike because the bike industry just doesn't operate that way.

Highway robbery.
It is possible to bargain during certain times of the year or if the bike hasn't sold in a long time. But you have to be patient. Otherwise, $2,000 is not a lot to spend for the enjoyment and health the bike will bring to you. I don't have a lot to add to what others have said about pedals. It's just the way it works..
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