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I've Got A Beef: Pedals

Old 11-04-18, 04:52 PM
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I've Got A Beef: Pedals

So let me get this straight....

I'm going to spend $2,000 for a bike without a motor and it can't be ridden until I buy some pedals for it. And I can't ask for 10% off the bike because the bike industry just doesn't operate that way.

Highway robbery.
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Old 11-04-18, 05:08 PM
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Pedals are pretty personal and can range from extremely cheap to extremely expensive. Not all shoes fit all pedals. At a certain price, a certain level of seriousness is expected, and most in that category would be unhappy with the bike company's choice.

Imagine the absolute flood of take-off pedals at every bike shop if they did as you say.

Im certain the shop will give you cheap plastic pedals to actually ride on while you figure out which model of clipless pedals and shoes you want.

This doesn't bother most people. I think there are a lot of people who would go one step further and would prefer new bikes not to come with wheels.
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Old 11-04-18, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdsBikeBinocs View Post
So let me get this straight....

I'm going to spend $2,000 for a bike without a motor and it can't be ridden until I buy some pedals for it. And I can't ask for 10% off the bike because the bike industry just doesn't operate that way.

Highway robbery.
Did I miss the part where you explained why you should get 10% off?
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Old 11-04-18, 05:26 PM
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if you've saved up for a bicycle in that price range, the cost of pedals might be the least of your future purchases worries when outfitting the bicycle with other things. Sucks it doesnt even come with cheap ones.
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Old 11-04-18, 05:36 PM
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Sure.

Mark the bike up to $2222...

Then you get 10% off. And, only pay $2000 for the bike.

Or, you can have a $222 credit for buying those pedals.

Everyone wins!!!
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Old 11-04-18, 05:44 PM
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Sure.

Mark the bike up to $2222...

Then you get 10% off. And, only pay $2000 for the bike.

Or, you can have a $222 credit for buying those pedals.

Everyone wins!!!
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Old 11-04-18, 05:45 PM
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Any LBS will gladly supply you with a pair of generic nylon platform pedals-- probably for free-- they'll have a big box full. If I bought a road bike and it came with road pedals, I'd just have to take 'em off because I use SPD.

Mfrs. don't include pedals because it would be a waste of time and parts. I'm surprised some bikes even come with saddles.
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Originally Posted by BirdsBikeBinocs View Post
So let me get this straight....

I'm going to spend $2,000 for a bike without a motor and it can't be ridden until I buy some pedals for it. And I can't ask for 10% off the bike because the bike industry just doesn't operate that way.

Highway robbery.
Welcome to capitalism.
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Old 11-04-18, 05:49 PM
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Saddles should be next
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Old 11-04-18, 05:54 PM
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Every bike I've bought from the LBS came with pedals thrown in with the purchase. Maybe not the best quality or exactly what I wanted but I've always found use for them.....
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Most bikes come with cheap platform pedals, knowing the user of a $2000 bike is likely to install their own specific pedals.

As well, the Shimano SPD pedals I use cost about $25. Not exactly breaking the new bike budget.
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Cheaper bikes always come with pedals but expensive bikes don't. Something is not right.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Cheaper bikes always come with pedals but expensive bikes don't. Something is not right.
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crappy lug bolts on Jeeps are not covered by warranty
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
Welcome to capitalism.
In Venezuela they'll give you any pedals you want for free. Even the bike can be free if you ask.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Cheaper bikes always come with pedals but expensive bikes don't. Something is not right.
They also don’t come with wheel reflectors,
plastic spoke protectors, or kickstands.
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What bugs me is bike weights that don't include pedals. I think they should just add 250 grams for a generic, decently light pedal. That weight would much better reflect reality,

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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Sure.

Mark the bike up to $2222...

Then you get 10% off. And, only pay $2000 for the bike.

Or, you can have a $222 credit for buying those pedals.

Everyone wins!!!
I was formulating a similar answer in my head but you did well so I'll just quote you instead.
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Pedals, bottles and cages, a saddle that doesn't chafe like sandpaper.....

Just costs to figure in.
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The price doesn't include the cost of pedals. They aren't hiding this from you, so why should there be a discount?
Most people buying a $2000 bike probably have a strong pedal preference, while people buying cheap bikes probably don't care, any half decent platform will do.

I'm strictly a platform pedal guy even on my road bike, and I have a really specific preference for which one. I'd be annoyed if the price of a bike included a pair of SPDs I just had to swap out.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
What bugs me is bike weights that don't include pedals. I think they should just add 250 grams for a generic, decently light pedal. That weight would much better reflect reality,

Ben
When you see the weight of the bike just add 250g.
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I just love all the replies here about how great it is that pedals don't come with a bicycle. It's laughable.
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Spending $2K means you care about bikes. that also means you would not have liked the OEM pedals. them not providing any saved us from a thread "bought $2,200 bike and the pedals it came with are cheap and not SPD..." or something like that.
They should even take off saddles since one can ride with cheap pedals, but not with an unfitting saddle. and grips, and handlebars, and stems......
f...% it, just sell me a frame and i handpick the rest myself.
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Originally Posted by BirdsBikeBinocs View Post
I just love all the replies here about how great it is that pedals don't come with a bicycle. It's laughable.
Buy a Wallyworld special if you want it to include pedals commensurate with the quality of the bike.

You won't get pedals with a 10 grand bike either.
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Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Spending $2K means you care about bikes. that also means you would not have liked the OEM pedals. them not providing any saved us from a thread "bought $2,200 bike and the pedals it came with are cheap and not SPD..." or something like that.
They should even take off saddles since one can ride with cheap pedals, but not with an unfitting saddle. and grips, and handlebars, and stems......
f...% it, just sell me a frame and i handpick the rest myself.
I sort of bought my last bike that way. Online build where I had them change the crank arm length, bar width, stem length, and wheels and tires.

It didn't come with pedals.

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