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Old 11-05-18, 11:34 AM
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Using U-Lock on bike with integrated rear wheel lock?

I am using my old Fahgettaboudit Mini to lock a new bike that came with integrated Abus lock. The rack at work garage is too thick to fit any part of frame (including chain stays) if I try locking rear wheel through the frame triangle. Is that Abus good enough deterrent for just the rear wheel if I use the mini to lock the down tube? I also run Kryptonite cable through both wheels and saddle, FWIW.
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Old 11-05-18, 11:44 AM
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Cables can be cut, quickly

Some Ring locks offer an integrated chain pin catch on the side opposite the lock cylinder,



Just not on the cheapest models..

a link to the full range.. https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Secu...ks/Frame-Locks

which one you talking about?
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Old 11-05-18, 11:47 AM
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Old 11-05-18, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Some Ring locks offer an integrated chain pin catch on the side opposite the lock cylinder
Oh, that is very interesting, my lock does not have this feature BUT you could always use noose chain and lock the last link with the locking bar of the lock itself (the part that goes in between the spokes). The real question is where do I buy such chain without also having to buy the lock with comes with one (something like New York Noose 1275, but only the chain)?
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I have the Abus with chains...too heavy to lug around all the time.

Then, I saw this no-name setup below on Amazon for just $20. Should have gotten this instead. The cable looks much lighter than chain.

*Btw, your frame must have special braze-ons on the seat stay, in order to install these type of locks.

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Old 11-05-18, 03:30 PM
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I bought the Axa, added chain is 1.4M, it locks up the front wheel and the bike
to the bike-rack, and plugs into the ring lock..

some things you should not weight-weenie on,
unless you are ready to walk home, when your bike is stolen.
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Old 11-05-18, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
I have the Abus with chains...too heavy to lug around all the time.

Then, I saw this no-name setup below on Amazon for just $20. Should have gotten this instead. The cable looks much lighter than chain.

*Btw, your frame must have special braze-ons on the seat stay, in order to install these type of locks.

In reality, you could just zip tie the lock to your seat stays, as it is the lock's shackle through the spokes which prevents the bike from being ridden, which is how that lock works in the first place.


So if the lock is engaged, cutting the zip ties won't free the lock.
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Old 11-05-18, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by boggy View Post
I am using my old Fahgettaboudit Mini to lock a new bike that came with integrated Abus lock. The rack at work garage is too thick to fit any part of frame (including chain stays) if I try locking rear wheel through the frame triangle. Is that Abus good enough deterrent for just the rear wheel if I use the mini to lock the down tube? I also run Kryptonite cable through both wheels and saddle, FWIW.

You would be pretty unlucky to lose a rear wheel if you have an Abus frame lock being used to protect it.


If however you wanted some extra protection, you could always get this :


https://momentummag.com/abus-nutfix-lock-review/


https://www.hibike.com/abus-nutfix-w...d2ae2562c054ad
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Old 11-05-18, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
I have the Abus with chains...too heavy to lug around all the time.

Then, I saw this no-name setup below on Amazon for just $20. Should have gotten this instead. The cable looks much lighter than chain.

*Btw, your frame must have special braze-ons on the seat stay, in order to install these type of locks.


This lock is no good. I had one installed on a folding bike and parked in front of an Underground station. It got stolen.

Then I got this type of combo and used it for about a year with no issues. I mounted it in between the frame tubes upside down the other side of the brake caliper mounts and fixed it in with cable ties.
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Old 11-06-18, 01:59 AM
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^^^ Most probably because a folding bike is compact enough to put into the trunk of a car with the rear wheel still locked in mere seconds, to work on the lock in discretion later. The cable pictured can be cut in a blink of the eye with even compact-sized cable cutters.
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Impossible to answer since any lock can be defeated with time. Even so, your first consideration should be how secure is the area where you leave your bike? If its a high-crime area then the quality and number of locks won't matter.

But I suppose that if there are other bikes around and you have a tougher lock/s to defeat a bike thief will go for the bike that's easiest to steal. There's safety in numbers.
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Old 11-06-18, 07:41 AM
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^^^ Most probably because a folding bike is compact enough to put into the trunk of a car with the rear wheel still locked in mere seconds, to work on the lock in discretion later.
Not in London though, a car wouldn't have been able to stop where i parked. But indeed, the cable is easy to cut, then the guy just lifted the bike away, probably with a bus or the underground.
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Axa, 'defender', + chain, on my Koga WTR.. the lock came with a mounting band set,
for bikes without fittings,
(once installed the band tightening securing screw was made to break off)
Bike sold with Axa SL7, but I got newer one so I could add the lock up chain, seen around seatpost..


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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Impossible to answer since any lock can be defeated with time. Even so, your first consideration should be how secure is the area where you leave your bike? If its a high-crime area then the quality and number of locks won't matter.

But I suppose that if there are other bikes around and you have a tougher lock/s to defeat a bike thief will go for the bike that's easiest to steal. There's safety in numbers.
Well... The bike is locked to dedicated bike rack on the first floor of 7 floor business parking structure. The rack is installed by garage exit in front of garage security office with windows overlooking the rack that is manned during the day, and it would require two cuts with angle-grinder to take out my mini U-lock that will take, at the very least, over 1 minute for a skilled professional. I assume angle-grinder generates a lot of noise in the enclosed space of the garage structure, and it should attract attention of whoever is inside the security office 20 feet away. Also, if that makes any difference, this is an electric bike with bosch mid drive, and I always take the battery and headset control unit with me when I leave, so that (in theory) should make bike less desirable to steal since expensive components are missing?

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