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Old 11-12-18, 05:01 AM
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City bike abuse - disturbing pics




In Munich for work and had time for a walk along the river this morning. Sad to see a fair number of trashed city bikes. These were the worst

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Old 11-12-18, 06:35 AM
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Used or abused, either way it's still better than the countless piles of them in scrapyards in China.

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I see a lot of vandalized bike share bikes in my area. Most of them have collapsed wheels, but some have them have been thrown into creeks and ponds. Some neer-do-wells have figured out how to disable the lock and either use the bike as their own or do a quick repaint and offer it for sale.
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Old 11-12-18, 07:11 AM
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That's O-Bikes on the pics. A rather nebulous bikeshare company out of Singapore (i think) distributed them all arround cities in Europe last summer in a pretty invasive way (means without asking/informing authorities). Lead to some discussion and news here in Switzerland and some Cities outright banning them. Then there were problems with data security and allegations that the company is basically only fishing for data. The bikes ended up being left all over the place and the company wasn't able (or not willing) to collect them. Then somewhere beginning of this year they went bankrupt and didn't bother to collect the bikes. They had some sort of contractor for the job but that person claims to have lost chf 200'000 in doing it and now has to collect all the bikes by himself and try to sell them to east Europe.

The bikes themselves were pretty low quality singlespeeds without even the possibilty to adjust saddle height.
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Old 11-12-18, 07:27 AM
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bike share, good idea. the problem? people
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Old 11-12-18, 07:44 AM
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I haven't seen anything like that in Eugene or Portland. Of course, the systems are still new.

Perhaps the important thing is for the companies to quickly locate damaged bikes, and remove them from service or repair them.

These bikes aren't shopping carts.
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Old 11-12-18, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flip Flop Rider View Post
bike share, good idea. the problem? people
^This sums it up..
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Old 11-12-18, 09:23 AM
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bikeshare, like, communism is very inefficient. when u get rid of ownership and assume people will act for good of many, is a mistake. there is always a large portion of people who care only about self. and there are lots of crazies out there who just want to destroy when they can get away with doing it.
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Old 11-12-18, 09:53 AM
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A real shame. More video cameras at bike drop off points? However, won't help much with kids with hoodies on.
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Old 11-12-18, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
there are lots of crazies out there who just want to destroy when they can get away with doing it.
Oh, they are not only "out there," they are right here on bikeforums.

"Two rows of about 10 bikes each on their kick stands. Looked like a lock below the rear brake. I reached out to touch the first one and then, well I did it. Pushed it over and hoped to get the whole row. First bike went down and the next one, missed the rest I guess. I think these was a name on those bikes but can't remember. Now back home and the rain is pretty hard. I wish I could have knocked them all down."

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Old 11-12-18, 10:24 AM
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bike share, good idea. the problem? people
Yep, including the people behind the dockless ideas.

Not bikes, but the electric scooters have appeared around me, and cities have taken to impounding them and basically holding them for ransom until companies start working with the city. Guess they learned their lesson with the dockless bikes, but just dumping a pile of bikes or scooters on a city without any legal agreements with local authorities on how it should work is as much on the operator as the users when it goes bad.
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Old 11-12-18, 10:38 AM
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The nicely redone Bathroom walls at the Bar I like, only lasted a few weeks before ugly tagging kicked in..

same vandalism mindset ..
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Old 11-12-18, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Kovkov View Post
A rather nebulous bikeshare company out of Singapore (i think) distributed them all arround cities in Europe last summer in a pretty invasive way (means without asking/informing authorities).
Kind of like the way Bird and Lime electric scooters were recently dumped in cities across the US?
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Old 11-13-18, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
Kind of like the way Bird and Lime electric scooters were recently dumped in cities across the US?
Don't know about that. Lime is arround here too. They have a much better reputation here than O-Bike had. Their approach was less aggressive.
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Old 11-13-18, 11:18 AM
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In Berkeley they once had the pink bike. A guy named John, who had a shop called 'The Krusty Wheel', got a job at Urban Ore and would restore bikes, paint them pink and leave them out for free ride share. Of course, many people decided not to share and that was that. Only in Utopia.
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Old 11-13-18, 11:41 AM
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There’s a new bike share program here in Providence, RI. Jump bikes...they have e-assist motors on them. But, I’ve encountered many of them on the multi-use bike paths that are designated “NON-MOTORIZED vehicles only.” Granted they don’t go super fast with the motor engaged. But I question whether they should be allowed on the paths or not.


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Old 11-13-18, 02:19 PM
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But I question whether they should be allowed on the paths or not.
Why shouldn't they? They're bikes and generally don't go any faster than a motivated roadie on his bike...

I like the concept. I dislike the concept that everything needs to be regulated in order to survive in a city. The REAL problem we all face is that cities have allocated too much space to cars and not enough space for pedestrians and other mostly human powered methods. I *wish* I could hop on a bike and get around downtown LA but I can't... the only bike share bikes available have to be returned to a dock. Might as well just walk.
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Old 11-13-18, 03:05 PM
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As much as I dislike dockless sharing - scooters or bikes - I wouldn't stoop so low as to vandalize them. Vandalizing property is not the way to finding solutions to opposing opinions. Overall, I see bike sharing as a good thing. It's the execution of the idea that I disagree with. There's no place in a civil society for dockless anything. As much as the automobile dominates the landscape, even they have designated parking spaces. Bicycle sharing companies and elected officials need to understand that much of the resentment is due to the reckless abandonment of the ride once the destination is reached.

Docked systems enable movement from one generalized area to another. It's up to the planners to determine the best location for docking stations. Patrons (customers) can ride the device from one area to another and then walk the last bit to their destination. If riders don't like the idea of walking even a small distance, they can buy their own bike or scooter for door-to-door luxury. The next time I go shopping, I'm gonna pull my car right up onto the sidewalk and park it adjacent to the entrance. Sounds ridiculous, right? Well, that's the same argument dockless sharing is proposing. There's nothing wrong with requiring parking be done in a designated area.

We all love bikes or we wouldn't be here. Take a bunch of bikes and scatter them across my yard or neighborhood, and I'm not feeling the love. Again, there's no need for the destructive vandalism. Put the time and effort into docked systems to serve a greater portion of the population... everybody wins.


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The only dockless (or any e-bike) I've ever used was a Jump bike up in Santa Cruz... they had a zillion of them near the boardwalk in a designated area (a bike rack). Their requirement is that when you're done, you secure the bike to a bike rack. Easy. I left it at Santa Cruz High school locked to the school's bike rack and when I drove by an hour later, it was already gone. Worked great.

There are solutions that don't involve vandalism or people dumping them all over the place.
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Old 11-13-18, 06:55 PM
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HAHAHAHA, those are great photos. Love seeing that garbage mangled and destroyed. Get rid of those dockless morons. Docked systems are fine it's the plague of people leaving garbage in the middle of the sidewalk which is the problem. It is garbage no matter how you stack it, if I abandon something somewhere and had no intention of picking it up, that is certainly littering and that isn't OK. And no I don't care that "you have an app on your phone and derp a derp a derp" because I still find those bikes to be litter and litter should be disposed of properly. A business has no right to take up public sidewalk space with any junk. If they want to keep it on their own property go for it or if they give the bikes away for free and pay the city for any clean up that might be done for bikes that aren't claimed sure go for it but aside from that get 'em out.
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