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Old 11-13-18, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
Would you like to see a picture of my frame? It's only about 67,000 grams.
No, I'm good. Thanks.


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Old 11-13-18, 02:06 PM
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Old 11-13-18, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
I feel like this is a good time to mention my 1463 gram steel frame.




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doesn't count... you ditched the gears and derailleurs for what a 17 lb steel ride? lol
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Old 11-13-18, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
How much does your average weenie weigh?
a weight weenie weighs everything,,,,,,,
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Old 11-13-18, 04:41 PM
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Carbon cranks.....
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Old 11-13-18, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Metieval View Post
doesn't count... you ditched the gears and derailleurs for what a 17 lb steel ride? lol
No, my Bianchi Pista is 17 lb.

This one was 15.9 lb including pedals and cages last time it was weighed. Recent changes probably put it closer to 15.7.

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/2018-...z-custom-37179

The frame is identical to a road frame except that it has horizontal track ends instead of dropouts and no place to attach a derailleur hanger.



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Old 11-13-18, 06:30 PM
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My steel bike has a carbon fork, I love riding it.
My aluminum bike has a carbon fork, I love riding it.
My titanium bike has a carbon fork, I love riding it.
I love riding my carbon forked bikes.
If and when I get a carbon bike with a carbon fork, I'll love riding that too.
Now carbon wheels are the devil!
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Old 11-13-18, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Exactly! 'Troll" isn't a synonym for "guy I disagree with".

From the OP: "It's all 90% of the carbon fanboy-weight-weenies need.Tell me I'm wrong."

I agree with him that I don't want carbon frames, but every word of that is trolling.
It's actually closer to what 98% of all carbon fanboy-weight-weenies need.
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Old 11-13-18, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
The OP is correct. So called CF bikes are in reality plastic bikes. They are carbon fiber reinforced plastic. Not much of a fan of CF bikes since they are so delicate. Given the money my choice would the a titanium frame bike.

BTW there are examples of 100 year old steel frame bikes around. IMO one of todays plastic bikes will simply disintegrate long before it is 100 years old. The simple fact is plastic drys up and get brittle after a short time.

That's REGULAR carbon. OP is talking about Carbon Schmarbon, which is a more durable blend. It's all in how much Schmar they bake into it. Makes all the difference.
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Old 11-13-18, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wattsup View Post
It's actually closer to what 98% of all carbon fanboy-weight-weenies need.
I feel this measure of weight weenie neediness is not accurate enough for the subject at hand. Can we get it to at least .0 or .00?
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Old 11-13-18, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
I feel like this is a good time to mention my 1463 gram steel frame.




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But does it look good?
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Old 11-13-18, 08:28 PM
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Not into carbon frames

steel and aluminum are better for me
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
No, my Bianchi Pista is 17 lb.

This one was 15.9 lb including pedals and cages last time it was weighed. Recent changes probably put it closer to 15.7.

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/2018-...z-custom-37179

The frame is identical to a road frame except that it has horizontal track ends instead of dropouts and no place to attach a derailleur hanger.



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Old 11-13-18, 10:34 PM
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I ride an '84 Pug "carbolite" that I bought new. "Steel IS real". How many plastic bikes are gonna' make it to 34 years of age unless they're in a museum some where?
Besides, plastic bikes are ugly.
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Old 11-13-18, 10:50 PM
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What's going to be the next "big" frame material? Graphene perhaps? Memory metal from the ship found in Roswell?
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Old 11-13-18, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon T View Post
I ride an '84 Pug "carbolite" that I bought new. "Steel IS real". How many plastic bikes are gonna' make it to 34 years of age unless they're in a museum some where?
Besides, plastic bikes are ugly.
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You are in the minority.

I notice that very few of those touting the longevity of steel frames are riding their '80s Peugeot.
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Old 11-13-18, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius View Post
What's going to be the next "big" frame material? Graphene perhaps? Memory metal from the ship found in Roswell?
Bakelite.
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Old 11-13-18, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by woodcraft View Post
You are in the minority.

I notice that very few of those touting the longevity of steel frames are riding their '80s Peugeot.
why are they riding 80's?

wouldn't a 1930's frame still be under 100 years old and viable?
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Old 11-14-18, 12:25 AM
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Relevant video, Dancing Queen and all:

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Relevant video, Dancing Queen and all:
hmm
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What's going to be the next "big" frame material? Graphene perhaps? Memory metal from the ship found in Roswell?
Formica/Depleted Uranium.
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(1) You omitted a hyphen.

(2) If carbon is so over-rated, show me a single life form that is not carbon-based!

(3) If it wasn't for carbon, in addition to not being alive, we wouldn't have steel. Which is real.
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I want to complement everyone (so far) on not abbreviating Al (aluminum/aluminium) as Alu.
You complained incorrectly about a missing hyphen, and then you mistakenly used complement instead of compliment. C'mon, this is an important thread. You can do better.
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But does it look good?
It's not red, so it's not the fastest.
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Bakelite.
Bakelite is jake, right!
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Originally Posted by Metieval View Post
why are they riding 80's?

wouldn't a 1930's frame still be under 100 years old and viable?
My early '90s steel frame is doing quite well, thank you, as is the al fork attached to it. That's pretty good longevity. Don't think I would put a lot of miles on a early 90s carbon frame.

I'm perfectly fine with other people choosing cf frames, but don't pretend that longevity isn't an issue. It just might not be one you care about.
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