Suggestions for high-quality, fast 32 or 35 mm tires and rims?
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Suggestions for high-quality, fast 32 or 35 mm tires and rims?
Currently running Bontrager AT-750 alloy rims and 700x35c H2 Hard-Case Lite tires. Would love to hear suggestions on an upgraded set of 32 to 35 mm rims and tires for long-distance (100 to 160 km) recreational rides on roads.
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Vision 40 Metro wheels and Bontrager AW3 32mm tires are working great for me. I would have gone with Continental GP4000s but they didn't come in 32mm - the new 5000s do, might try them next, but they are a good deal more expensive than the AW3s.
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There are a plethora of good, lightweight, fast tires in 32mm. 35 is usually a size reserved for more ‘utility’ tires. But it’s going to be hard to offer recommendations with so little info to work with. Things like your weight, the type of roads will be riding on, is there a higher chance of punctures from debris or things like thorns? Could you be prone to pinch flats if you move down to a smaller tire? (Related to your weight) budget, willing to spend? Can you fit a tire larger than 35mm?
most of us can really only make recommendations based on our own experiences and the tires we ride on. One of my favourite daily ride tires, is the 32mm Panaracer GravelKing (slick version). These tires offer puncture protection, are fast rolling and very lightweight by comparison to your tires. (290g per tire, vs your tires at 635g. Or to put it another way, your tires together weigh about 3 pounds, mine weigh 1.3 pounds) I’ll say this: most good quality tires, even performance tires typically have some form of puncture protection. It’s hard to buy a set today that doesn’t. But the bottom line is that your tires are heavy. Very heavy. This means the list of upgrades is a really long one. This means nearly any ‘performance’ tire will feel like a massive upgrade. without some more info, it’s going to be difficult to narrow things down.
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the new Continental GP 5000 in a 32
panaracer gravelking in a 32
Compass bon jon pass in a 700x35
Continental also has the Gran prix 4season in a 32
panaracer gravelking in a 32
Compass bon jon pass in a 700x35
Continental also has the Gran prix 4season in a 32
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But compared to a proper performance road tire, they are fairly slow, both in terms of weight and rolling resistance.
I have a set of 35mm Compass Bon Jon Pass tires that are rediculously fast and smooth. There is some pretty over-the-top hype around some of the Compass offerings, and in my experience it is pretty well deserved. However, they are very expensive, and if you are prone to flats or tire damage, might not be a good choice. That said, I have yet to get a flat on the Bon Jons or the Barlow Pass (the 38mm version), despite riding on a lot of dirt and gravel. Also, people report having mixed results running these tubeless.
From reading a lot of reviews, the Panaracer Gravel King slick seems like a good choice for a lot less money. It comes in 32c and 38c. I may get a set of them next becuase they apparently set up for tubeless very easily.
Other suggestions in this thread are probably good as well.
I would not bother with new rims, as that means a new wheelset. I think the change in tires will make a noticable difference on its own.
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Compass. Spend the money. Ride happy.

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May I suggest the Continental GrandSport Race and GrandSport Extra tires in 700x32 These are what I've been using on my hybrids lately. These are actual "road" tires with some flat protection. I've seen several 700x28 ties that fit the bill, but few in 700x32.
Last Fall I was searching for some actual 700x32 tires that were road tires that didn't have the words marathon, touring, city, plumpish, heavy as ****, associated with them and that also met the following requirements ...
I really loved the way they felt between the bike and the pavement so I ended up buying some GrandSport Extras in 700x32. Differences are ...
Hope this helps.
Race:
https://www.continental-tires.com/bi...and-sport-race
Extra:
https://www.continental-tires.com/bi...nd-sport-extra
Last Fall I was searching for some actual 700x32 tires that were road tires that didn't have the words marathon, touring, city, plumpish, heavy as ****, associated with them and that also met the following requirements ...
- Foldable (all sizes)
- Pure Grip compound (1 step down from Conti's premium Black Chili compound)
- Decent 3/180 TPI so not entry level
- 1 layer NyTech breaker for flat protection
- 370 grams in 700x32 size
- Pressure: 60-102 PSI
- Reasonably priced (under $25 each)
I really loved the way they felt between the bike and the pavement so I ended up buying some GrandSport Extras in 700x32. Differences are ...
- Not foldable in 700x32 size (all other sizes, yes)
- 2 layers NyTech breaker flat protection
- 530 grams in 700x32 size (a bit plumpish)
Hope this helps.
Race:
https://www.continental-tires.com/bi...and-sport-race
Extra:
https://www.continental-tires.com/bi...nd-sport-extra
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https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVO...r-folding-tyre
Vittoria Voyager Hyper. Low rolling resistance- actually tested by machines and users.
2 of these cost $77 shipped to the US right now. There are times when a pair only costs $53 total shipped to the US.
They are fast rolling, reliable, and not expensive.
There are tons of tires available to you- compass is a nice brand but super expensive. there are absolutely other tires available that will be just as nice for less.
Panaracer gravel king in 32 is another thats relatively light, fast rolling and OK on price.
Vittoria Voyager Hyper. Low rolling resistance- actually tested by machines and users.
2 of these cost $77 shipped to the US right now. There are times when a pair only costs $53 total shipped to the US.
They are fast rolling, reliable, and not expensive.
There are tons of tires available to you- compass is a nice brand but super expensive. there are absolutely other tires available that will be just as nice for less.
Panaracer gravel king in 32 is another thats relatively light, fast rolling and OK on price.
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Are you prioritising speed over puncture protection for a change of tires?
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But it’s going to be hard to offer recommendations with so little info to work with. Things like your weight, the type of roads will be riding on, is there a higher chance of punctures from debris or things like thorns? Could you be prone to pinch flats if you move down to a smaller tire? (Related to your weight) budget, willing to spend? Can you fit a tire larger than 35mm?
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But it’s going to be hard to offer recommendations with so little info to work with. Things like your weight, the type of roads will be riding on, is there a higher chance of punctures from debris or things like thorns? Could you be prone to pinch flats if you move down to a smaller tire? (Related to your weight) budget, willing to spend? Can you fit a tire larger than 35mm?
I weigh about 175 lb.
I was thinking 32 to 35 mm tires would be best, given that I'm a recreational long-distance rider looking for a balance between speed and comfort, but smaller or larger tires would be ok too, if they offer some advantages. My bike is a 2016 Trek FX 7.2. It looks to have plenty of clearance for much wider tires than the 35 mm ones it came with.
As for budget, I could consider options up to $100 for a pair of tires. But that doesn't mean I feel a need to have $100 tires. A high-quality pair of tires that costs half that much would also suit me fine.
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Continental 4-seasons come in a 32. I've found them to be an excellent balance between puncture protection and speed, but they are a little on the pricey end as well.
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If you lived in the States and had a Performance Bike in your town, I'd suggest these for some inexpensive discontinued Continental tires.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop...ontact-50-8572
They are 700x32. I paid $9 each after sales tax in Indianapolis and had them shipped to the store for pickup to save shipping costs. The reviews I've read are mixed, but at that price I'm willing to give it a shot.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop...ontact-50-8572
They are 700x32. I paid $9 each after sales tax in Indianapolis and had them shipped to the store for pickup to save shipping costs. The reviews I've read are mixed, but at that price I'm willing to give it a shot.
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A balance of speed and moderate puncture protection sounds good to me, rather than selecting tires exclusively on the basis of speed. On the roads I ride, the frequency of encountering man-made and natural debris is probably average. The roads are paved fairly smooth but have cracks and bumps from time to time.
I weigh about 175 lb.
I was thinking 32 to 35 mm tires would be best, given that I'm a recreational long-distance rider looking for a balance between speed and comfort, but smaller or larger tires would be ok too, if they offer some advantages. My bike is a 2016 Trek FX 7.2. It looks to have plenty of clearance for much wider tires than the 35 mm ones it came with.
As for budget, I could consider options up to $100 for a pair of tires. But that doesn't mean I feel a need to have $100 tires. A high-quality pair of tires that costs half that much would also suit me fine.
I weigh about 175 lb.
I was thinking 32 to 35 mm tires would be best, given that I'm a recreational long-distance rider looking for a balance between speed and comfort, but smaller or larger tires would be ok too, if they offer some advantages. My bike is a 2016 Trek FX 7.2. It looks to have plenty of clearance for much wider tires than the 35 mm ones it came with.
As for budget, I could consider options up to $100 for a pair of tires. But that doesn't mean I feel a need to have $100 tires. A high-quality pair of tires that costs half that much would also suit me fine.
there are still a plethora of choices in this range though, from schwalbe, continental, vittoria, soma, etc, etc.
Some me people have mentioned Compass tires, but if you would like to stay within $100 or less, I wouldn’t recommend them. These tires are very ‘plush’ tires, but they prioritise lightness and softness over everything else. They’re great tires but they don’t really offer puncture protection, they’ll wear quickly and you’ll cough up quite a few pennies. The gravelkings will give you a good %80 of that for a lot less. compass tires are made by panaracer anyway.
A few other good choices would be the Soma Shikoro. It can be had in 33 and 38mm. Has a little more puncture protection than the gravelkings, but similar weight (both lighter than your current tires). Good grip and fast rolling. I can personally vouch for the tires as I can the gravelkings. These are also made by panaracer and are tubeless compatible. These are generally more expensive, but you can find them online typically for the same price as the gravelkings.
Fairweather also has a few choices that would be good: the ‘Cruise’ 38mm and the ‘Traveler’ 32mm. Similar weight to both the gravelkings and shikoro, and they also come in a selection of colours, if that’s your thing. These can be had for around $35 per tire. The Fairwether tires are also made by panaracer. The ‘traveler’ is a copy of the Gravelking, and the ‘cruise’ is a copy of the panaracer Pasela. These are the lightest options, because they have the least puncture protection.
the main reason for my recommendations, is because these tires strike a good balance, but offer massively improved performance without sacrifice of comfort. If you’re asking about upgrading both tires and wheels, I think it would be smarter and more economical to spend the money on lighter tires. It will cost you less in total upgrades, and greatly improve the weight, handling and overall enjoyment of the bike. This would negate the need for a wheel upgrade, that staying with a cheaper, heavier tire might push you to continue wanting. There are plenty of cheap options out there, in 32-38mm range, but most wont be much if any better than what you have.
If if you are in Japan, I believe you can get panaracer, soma and fairweather tires pretty easily and cheaply. BlueLug in either Hatagaya or Kamiuma should be able to help you out.
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Can't really beat these for the price:
https://www.thebikesmiths.com/produc...dition-10332-2
But only if you run them tubeless.
https://www.thebikesmiths.com/produc...dition-10332-2
But only if you run them tubeless.
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These tires are very ‘plush’ tires, but they prioritise lightness and softness over everything else. They’re great tires but they don’t really offer puncture protection, they’ll wear quickly and you’ll cough up quite a few pennies. The gravelkings will give you a good %80 of that for a lot less. compass tires are made by panaracer anyway.
Actually, the tread rubber of Compass tires is unusually thick for such a pricey performance-oriented tire; they're about 3mm at the centerline, despite a very thin casing and no puncture-protection layer. Consequentially, they're very long-wearing compared with Gravelkings, which achieve their extremely light weight (in some sizes lighter than Compass) by using incredibly thin tread rubber.
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What, no love for the Challenge Strada Bianca? Run some 33s (measure out to 35 or so on my wide rims) that I use when I take my gravel bike on fast group road rides. Very smooth and fast.
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Well if you got 90 bucks a tire money the new gp 5000 boobookittyplucks come in 32 , or 28 on a wide rim will be about 32 .
Gp4ks2 in 28
Swalbe pro 1 in 28 will measure wide .
Gp4ks2 in 28
Swalbe pro 1 in 28 will measure wide .
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Actually, the tread rubber of Compass tires is unusually thick for such a pricey performance-oriented tire; they're about 3mm at the centerline, despite a very thin casing and no puncture-protection layer. Consequentially, they're very long-wearing compared with Gravelkings, which achieve their extremely light weight (in some sizes lighter than Compass) by using incredibly thin tread rubber.
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no. None. They’re good performing tires, but they are an absolute PITA, to mount. Also, I don’t think tires like that are a good choice for the OP. His frame is pretty heavy, he’s not doing any performance specific riding, and he’s coming from hybrid tires similar to a schwalbe marathon or delta cruiser. He doesn’t need racing tires, he needs good middle range performing tires that improve the handling, grip and sheds excess rotational weight. Taking the OPs information and stated use, the gravelkings fit the bill perfectly.
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no. None. They’re good performing tires, but they are an absolute PITA, to mount. Also, I don’t think tires like that are a good choice for the OP. His frame is pretty heavy, he’s not doing any performance specific riding, and he’s coming from hybrid tires similar to a schwalbe marathon or delta cruiser. He doesn’t need racing tires, he needs good middle range performing tires that improve the handling, grip and sheds excess rotational weight. Taking the OPs information and stated use, the gravelkings fit the bill perfectly.
I how ever ran 28c Michelin dynamics (measured 30) on a hybrid forever and it was fine. If the OP is always on pavement the 700x38 might be over kill, but super plush. which is why I suggested the 32.
feedback on the 700x38 gravelkings
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I had another look at my bike and realized I forgot to check tire clearance at one of the narrowest points. Turns out 38 mm would be a tight squeeze, if they'd fit at all.
Ordered a pair of the slick panaracer gravel king 32 tires for the equivalent of US$42 each. Looking forward to taking them out on the road.
Thanks for the helpful advice, everybody!
Ordered a pair of the slick panaracer gravel king 32 tires for the equivalent of US$42 each. Looking forward to taking them out on the road.
Thanks for the helpful advice, everybody!
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Nice! I ended up putting slick gravel king's on my winter fixie, but was only able to fit 26's since they ran a little big. If 38 mm is iffy, though, it seems like there would be enough wiggle room between 32s so that even if they were a little large, they'd still fit.
I've been a fan of them so far, they're supple and grip well in the rain, which is the main thing I wanted out of a winter tire for my commute.
I've been a fan of them so far, they're supple and grip well in the rain, which is the main thing I wanted out of a winter tire for my commute.
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no. None. They’re good performing tires, but they are an absolute PITA, to mount. Also, I don’t think tires like that are a good choice for the OP. His frame is pretty heavy, he’s not doing any performance specific riding, and he’s coming from hybrid tires similar to a schwalbe marathon or delta cruiser. He doesn’t need racing tires, he needs good middle range performing tires that improve the handling, grip and sheds excess rotational weight. Taking the OPs information and stated use, the gravelkings fit the bill perfectly.
I'll admit I haven't thrashed mine on non-paved surfaces, that's what my Trigger Pros are for, but I haven't had any complaints so far. YMMV.
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agree,
I how ever ran 28c Michelin dynamics (measured 30) on a hybrid forever and it was fine. If the OP is always on pavement the 700x38 might be over kill, but super plush. which is why I suggested the 32.
feedback on the 700x38 gravelkings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VZIvxkKkHw
I how ever ran 28c Michelin dynamics (measured 30) on a hybrid forever and it was fine. If the OP is always on pavement the 700x38 might be over kill, but super plush. which is why I suggested the 32.
feedback on the 700x38 gravelkings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VZIvxkKkHw
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Hmm what rims are you using? I can mount/dismount mine on DTSwiss R460 rims without using levers, and I was mildly concerned that they were actually too loose when I first got them.
I'll admit I haven't thrashed mine on non-paved surfaces, that's what my Trigger Pros are for, but I haven't had any complaints so far. YMMV.
I'll admit I haven't thrashed mine on non-paved surfaces, that's what my Trigger Pros are for, but I haven't had any complaints so far. YMMV.