New cycling fad???
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New cycling fad???
Lately I have seen a lot of cyclists riding with their helmet hanging from the handlebar. These aren't weekend/fair weather riders. They are "real" cyclists, dressed in there best team gear and riding in traffic.
Are they crazy, tempting fate, or just stupid?
Are they crazy, tempting fate, or just stupid?
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I'd say stupid. I mean if your not gonna wear the helmet why bother carying the damn thing around? Pretty stupid if you ask me. Unless you only see them do that on long climbs, then it's cool to do that b/c tour stage finishers do it
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Originally Posted by jfmckenna
then it's cool to do that b/c tour stage finishers do it
I would like a helmet rack (on my bike) for these occasions.
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I always thought it was a way to avoid wearing a helmet while still complying w/ helmet laws.
But yes, stupid, is what it ultimately is.
But yes, stupid, is what it ultimately is.
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Sometimes when I commute and my head is wet I will remove it a half mile from work so my hair can dry before I go into the office. But that is the only reason I won't wear my helmet while in motion and that stretch of road has zero traffic (and yes I know people are going to pipe up saying you can injure your head by falling off a standing bike, for that matter you could injure your head while falling off your feet with no bike involved too, sometimes you just need to assess what is an acceptable risk).
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NO NO NO NO NO! These guys are either going to or returning from their training rides....... that's all...... no fad...... this has been going on for decades.....
That being said, I keep my helmet on 100% of the time.
That being said, I keep my helmet on 100% of the time.
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Some people are too cool to wear seat belts too. It's all part of a process Darwin called "Natural Selection."
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Oh, all this time I thought it was some kind of test. As in: how quickly can I whip my helmet on in a crash, before I actually hit the ground?
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They are DUMB!!!! I saw a rider yesterday, like you described, riding down a steep, long hill without a helmet. I rode down that hill the other day and was doing 43 mph. If he fell for any reason, he is DEAD, or at least he would be better off dead after the injuries.
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Originally Posted by RonH
Lately I have seen a lot of cyclists riding with their helmet hanging from the handlebar. These aren't weekend/fair weather riders. They are "real" cyclists, dressed in there best team gear and riding in traffic.
Are they crazy, tempting fate, or just stupid?
Are they crazy, tempting fate, or just stupid?
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All it takes is a hit to the head at 10 mph to kill a person. Going even half that speed could cause serious brain damage.
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Originally Posted by pletcgm
All it takes is a hit to the head at 10 mph to kill a person. Going even half that speed could cause serious brain damage.
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I admit I've done this before. Like Paul L's situation, it's at the end of my commute, the last 500m is on a wide sidewalk (it's been designated a bike path, so no "get off the sidewalk!" comments). I'm only going about 9-10mph and I'm trying to cool my head and dry my hair.
Not a big deal as far as I'm concerned.
Not a big deal as far as I'm concerned.
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You people have got to be joking, 10 mph is *plenty* fast to crack your head open! Heck, people have gotten concussions hitting an open dresser drawer...and that just while standing up!! I'm not suggesting that you gear up to get your socks each morning, but I *am* suggesting that you helmet-up when you are talking about speeds 10 or 20 times greater.
And also note that "even" a 10mph crash will probably result (because of the nature of rotational motion added to the fact that you're a good 4-5 feet off of the ground) in your head hitting the ground at a significantly higher speed than 10mph.
Keep your noggin safe--especially as a lot of us humans get great pleasure in telling you that we "told you so"--and there certainly would be none of that if you go and spew out your brains first!
And also note that "even" a 10mph crash will probably result (because of the nature of rotational motion added to the fact that you're a good 4-5 feet off of the ground) in your head hitting the ground at a significantly higher speed than 10mph.
Keep your noggin safe--especially as a lot of us humans get great pleasure in telling you that we "told you so"--and there certainly would be none of that if you go and spew out your brains first!
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I'll remove my helmet during long climbs. It's a risk I choose to take, after all, I'm an adult.
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Well, since I can run a 40 min. 10K (approx. 9.3 mph), should I wear my helmet the next time I go for a run?
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Originally Posted by sm266
I'll remove my helmet during long climbs. It's a risk I choose to take, after all, I'm an adult.
:-)
I do the same thing...
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Originally Posted by bbaker22
No way! We're still allowed to do that in the US?
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I do the same thing...
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I do the same thing...
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I am just wondering the thresh hold for too much risk is. At what point should we employ safety equipment to prevent injury/death? We live in fear, fear pushed on us by advertising and other sources.
The argument "why not wear it, it might save your life" can be applied to most activities- why not just ban bikes? That would solve all bike related injuries and is just as logical. At least come up with better arguments- almost all arguments I have heard for wearing a helmet all the time are fallacies.
There is a greater risk of dying as a pedestrian that a cyclist by a factor of 7 (national safety council- percent of total population). That is, 1:359,967 people will die on a bike, 1:19,075 in a car, and 1:46,960 as a pedestrian.
To put that in perspective, this forum boasts 10,000 members as of 3-6-04. Odds are that 1 of us will be dead from a cycling accident in 35 years- from any cause. Those odds state one of us should die every other year in a car and as a pedestrian one every four years. I think I'll quite walking and driving and ride everywhere (yes I know this is a ridiculous assertion).
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The argument "why not wear it, it might save your life" can be applied to most activities- why not just ban bikes? That would solve all bike related injuries and is just as logical. At least come up with better arguments- almost all arguments I have heard for wearing a helmet all the time are fallacies.
There is a greater risk of dying as a pedestrian that a cyclist by a factor of 7 (national safety council- percent of total population). That is, 1:359,967 people will die on a bike, 1:19,075 in a car, and 1:46,960 as a pedestrian.
To put that in perspective, this forum boasts 10,000 members as of 3-6-04. Odds are that 1 of us will be dead from a cycling accident in 35 years- from any cause. Those odds state one of us should die every other year in a car and as a pedestrian one every four years. I think I'll quite walking and driving and ride everywhere (yes I know this is a ridiculous assertion).
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Originally Posted by sm266
I'll remove my helmet during long climbs. It's a risk I choose to take, after all, I'm an adult.
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I am just wondering the thresh hold for too much risk is. At what point should we employ safety equipment to prevent injury/death? We live in fear, fear pushed on us by advertising and other sources.
Originally Posted by Trevor98
The argument "why not wear it, it might save your life" can be applied to most activities- why not just ban bikes?
Originally Posted by Trevor98
There is a greater risk of dying as a pedestrian that a cyclist by a factor of 7 (national safety council- percent of total population). That is, 1:359,967 people will die on a bike, 1:19,075 in a car, and 1:46,960 as a pedestrian.
Originally Posted by Trevor98
To put that in perspective, this forum boasts 10,000 members as of 3-6-04. Odds are that 1 of us will be dead from a cycling accident in 35 years- from any cause. Those odds state one of us should die every other year in a car and as a pedestrian one every four years. I think I'll quite walking and driving and ride everywhere (yes I know this is a ridiculous assertion).
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Originally Posted by pletcgm
I definitely agree! That why I also think that seat belt and motorcycle helmet laws are so stupid!!! I would never go without, but I don't think that you should be forced to wear one. The way I look at it, it's your own life and no one else's to rule.
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Originally Posted by ExMachina
I always thought it was a way to avoid wearing a helmet while still complying w/ helmet laws.
But yes, stupid, is what it ultimately is.
But yes, stupid, is what it ultimately is.
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