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Old 01-15-19, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
So, how much faster would this guy be if he shaved off the 'stache?

Without looking it up Iím pretty sure he gained the US the world pursuit record recently. And used to be a gravel racer of all things.

Lambie?

Lambie has facial hair also.

Facial hair is shielded usually by your head turtling down and fact youíre staring at the black line and not 1/4 mile ahead.

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Old 01-15-19, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by burnthesheep View Post

Without looking it up Iím pretty sure he gained the US the world pursuit record recently. And used to be a gravel racer of all things.

Lambie?

Lambie has facial hair also.

Facial hair is shielded usually by your head turtling down and fact youíre staring at the black line and not 1/4 mile ahead.

Yeah, the 'stache is pretty well-shielded, but not totally:



Yep, that's Ashton ('stache-ton) Lambie. And he's still doing the occasional gravel race, I believe.
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Old 01-15-19, 02:28 PM
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It lightens your wallet considerably so you should go much faster.
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I'm not sure it makes my gut any sexier, or aerodynamic.
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does this apply?

Rule #18 Know what to wear. Donít suffer kit confusion. No baggy shorts and jerseys while riding the road bike. No lycra when riding the mountain bike (unless racing XC). Skin suits only for cyclocross.
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Old 01-23-19, 07:29 PM
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does this apply?

Rule #18 Know what to wear. Donít suffer kit confusion. No baggy shorts and jerseys while riding the road bike. No lycra when riding the mountain bike (unless racing XC). Skin suits only for cyclocross.
Only if your skinsuit looks like this:

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Old 01-24-19, 04:59 AM
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Only if your skinsuit looks like this:
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Old 01-27-19, 08:09 PM
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hey guys , how long do you think this will be on sale and can i do better???/


https://www.competitivecyclist.com/a...nosuit_s7-mens
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Old 01-27-19, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle View Post
hey guys , how long do you think this will be on sale and can i do better???/


https://www.competitivecyclist.com/a...nosuit_s7-mens
Assos is good stuff.
Depends what you want. The Castelli Body Paint would get my money first. Junior has used both.
My 1st 1983 skin suit was Assos. It would be fine now.
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Old 01-28-19, 01:16 AM
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In any case ... even a hardcore pro TT expert isn't going to gain much from wearing a skinsuit when he is riding around the block with his kids on their bikes with training wheels. So, pretty much, at speeds below what the really fast riders ride, that skin suit is likely not the most effective investment.
I know you know this, and using hyperbole to make a point, but it bears stating: there are like 87 levels of fitness and types of riders in between the two. Based on what I see around my parts, Speed suits (skin suits with pockets) are de rigueur during cross season, and you'll see plenty of them in the cat4 and up ranks the rest of the year. And in the local TT series, you'll see plenty of em, on top of $12k of wundergear. If it works for you, it works.
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Old 01-28-19, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle View Post
hey guys , how long do you think this will be on sale and can i do better???/


https://www.competitivecyclist.com/a...nosuit_s7-mens
I'm not sure how you personally measure better, but in terms of reducing drag, performance is very dependent on the individual, and there's no way of knowing which will perform better without testing. On some people, more expensive suits perform worse than the less expensive ones.
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Old 01-31-19, 10:34 PM
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In my case speed suits turn on the ladies at spin class.
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Old 02-01-19, 09:32 AM
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Just plain silly.
You reference a report suggesting a benefit of a tiny amount of watts for people riding at over 30 mph and then go on to apply that to pleasure riders going around half or two-thirds that speed.
19-25W is hardly a tiny amount of watts. That's a huge difference for anyone in shape and looking to go faster, it will take a lot of work to get that sort of power increase! Even a pro in the 450-500W range for a TT is looking at around 5% savings.

I agree for pleasure riders, it's no difference but that's not the target market here. For a competitive amateur it really does look like easy watts for the money.
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Old 02-01-19, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Caliper View Post
19-25W is hardly a tiny amount of watts. That's a huge difference for anyone in shape and looking to go faster, it will take a lot of work to get that sort of power increase! Even a pro in the 450-500W range for a TT is looking at around 5% savings.

I agree for pleasure riders, it's no difference but that's not the target market here. For a competitive amateur it really does look like easy watts for the money.
Seriously. I have absolutely slaughtered myself for months to achieve a 25w increase in FTP.
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Old 02-01-19, 12:24 PM
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Seriously. I have absolutely slaughtered myself for months to achieve a 25w increase in FTP.
Of course you should feel great about the accomplishment; much moreso than if you had just pulled out your wallet to do the same. Most anyone can do that.
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Old 02-03-19, 09:28 PM
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Seriously. I have absolutely slaughtered myself for months to achieve a 25w increase in FTP.
Are you doing pure outdoor or track ftp tests or trainer.
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Originally Posted by Teamprovicycle View Post
To a amature racer skin/speed suits seem kinda silly .
spend almost 1000 bucks to cover up in a thin silly material.
why not just race naked , or shorts only .
its the placebo effect...total waste of some ones money
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its the placebo effect...total waste of some ones money
I'm pretty sure all the strain gauges used in testing have built in placebo compensation.
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Are you doing pure outdoor or track ftp tests or trainer.
Outside. I have a stretch of road that allows for 20 minutes of flat, no stops.
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I'm pretty sure all the strain gauges used in testing have built in placebo compensation.
yeah a loose shoe lace will have as much effect on a riders speed as a ****** speed suit....buy a low racer recumbent if u really want to get aero and go fast
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yeah a loose shoe lace will have as much effect on a riders speed as a ****** speed suit....buy a low racer recumbent if u really want to get aero and go fast
You really have no idea what the drag on shoe laces or speed suits are do you? Don't be afraid, admit it.

And surely you must realize recumbents aren't allowed in bicycle races.
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Originally Posted by asgelle View Post
You really have no idea what the drag on shoe laces or speed suits are do you? Don't be afraid, admit it.

And surely you must realize recumbents aren't allowed in bicycle races.
bike races are about who can afford the most advantages....speed sui...t ultra light bikes......carbon .racing wheels....ceramic bearings the list goes on...its not about whos best just who has the most money to spend on advantages
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Makes you look fast? Just kidding. In elite sports it's all about the smallest edge. Sometimes the physical edge isn't as strong as the psychological edge. If you "feel" faster you generally will be faster.

I was a swimmer all through high school and college. I hated shaving my legs...hated it. But, it made me feel like a greased torpedo in the water. I "felt" faster. My times were always better when I shaved.

When I was in college Mark Spitz was a swimming god. Spitz won seven Olympic Gold Medals in swimming with a FULL head of hair AND a mustache. Kinda puts the hair thing to rest but he was confident enough to swim with a full head of hair and no cap.

If I put on a speed suite I'd look like a big stuffed sausage at my age. Probably good for sky diving but not cycling....

Spitz's edge was his mechanics. Hair? Pffft....

Today? He'd wear a skinsuite just like the rest of the competition though. He'd probably wear a cap too for the psychological edge.


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Now? probably be too cold..
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I always thought bikers look silly. Sorry. I have since then changed my mind a little. I used to think, "Who the hell do they think they are? Freddie Mercury?". And what is that mushroom thing on their head? Since then I have put on bike suits. I have mushroom helmets (I only wear them 30% of the time) For fun.

But...something in the back of my head keeps on reminding me: "There was a time you thought they looked silly. Remember that..dress normal."
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