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indyfabz 01-09-19 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by DaveSSS (Post 20739369)
I'd be embarrassed to admit that I can't do my own bike repair.

It's you.

And one of my LBS built me this. Don't try that at home, kids.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...579f869ade.jpg

Yendor72 01-09-19 09:43 AM

No, not because I wouldn't, but the owner/mechanic's wife is a brewer at the local brewery. I don't buy him beers when I see him out either, he gets them free. I have tipped him in the past for taking care of me 2 hours after picking up my bike. My wife braked when I expected her to go, hit her, bent a spoke. He dropped what he was doing to take care of me.

jefnvk 01-09-19 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20739367)
Doing something nice in return for extraordinary treatment is a nice gesture and can result in continued extraordinary treatment. I'm talking about things like emergency service on the spot. Free and/or discounted parts and/or labor.

Which, I do understand, and I hope I conveyed above isn't what I am questioning at all.


Originally Posted by DaveSSS (Post 20739369)
I'd be embarrassed to admit that I can't do my own bike repair. Never had a local shop make a repair.

Eh, I do most of my own stuff, sometimes it is just more convenient to drop it off and let someone else deal with it. We did that with the wife's brakes in France while we went and did some shopping and ate. I had the tools and the knowledge, but I choose to just pay the guy at the shop and not bother.

Jim from Boston 01-09-19 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by DaveSSS (Post 20739369)
I'd be embarrassed to admit that I can't do my own bike repair. Never had a local shop make a repair.

Earlier on this thread I posted

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 20739111)
I too have such [amazing] mechanics at my LBS…


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 18139946)
Do You Work / Maintain Your Own Bikes?

I am one as you describe, in boldface. My first adult bike was a Schwinn Suburban, and as a college student I did a lot of work on it, including cleaning bearings. Time eventually became too much of a premium, so now my LBS does it all.

Besides time, I have never had good facilities to work easily. Even now we live in a relatively small, but elegant condo, and my wife would frown on a room with a bike stand. Having the LBS do it all, in my case is a really good deal.

The shop is one block away, and they will fix many things at a convenient time for me. They are so expert that they can do these things quickly, better than me, and often spot problems that I did not see. Whenever I leave the shop, the bikes ride as if new again.

Because the bikes are a major transportation mode for me, keeping them in good repair is critical. We save a lot of money on transportation, so further using the LBS is even more cost-effective. I tip well, not, “To Insure Prompt Service,” but because I am so appreciative of their work. Hats off to Back Bay Bikes.


mtb_addict 01-09-19 10:21 AM

If I was a mech, I would think it is a bribe. And I would feel uncomfortable about accepting.

But never been in such position because people know I do not do favoritism. I treat everyone equally. And I work hard to everyone.

If customer is very happy, then instead of buying a 6-pack or donuts or whatever, go tell your peloton buddies about it. Referral is much more important imo than a 6-pack.

mcours2006 01-09-19 10:22 AM

A shop owner did a quote for me for repairs for the insurance company once. The next time I was in the neighbourhood I brought coffee and some donuts. I usually do my own work at home.

indyfabz 01-09-19 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by jefnvk (Post 20739434)
Which, I do understand, and I hope I conveyed above isn't what I am questioning at all.

You're good.

As for one doing one's own work, I think that poster is looking at things from a very self-centered perspective. Not everyone is in a position to do his or her own mechanical work.

Imagine, if you will, the second year grad student living in a small, third floor walk up apartment who has little money and even less time to invest in the tools and training/study necessary to become a competent mechanic. Her chain starts skipping or her wheel comes out of true. All she knows is that she needs her beater bike to get to school and around town so she stops into the closest LBS for assistance. Those of us who live in major metropolitan areas who spend enough time in LBS see this person all the time. It's one reason shops located in areas with a substantial population of people like that tend to do well.

I-Like-To-Bike 01-09-19 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by OBoile (Post 20739352)
People actually tip/buy drinks for employees of their LBS? Really? I had no idea this is was a thing.
I agree with @jefnvk. The LBS has a price for a service, I pay it. End of story. I also don't tip the people who sold me my shoes, or my pants. I don't tip my auto mechanic either.

I Agree. I would avoid a store or shop where management considers it acceptable to take friendly bribes from their friends or "bros" for providing service to them ahead of other customers waiting for service or maintenance work.

BirdsBikeBinocs 01-09-19 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by ooga-booga (Post 20738858)
so do you buy beer or beverages for your local lbs/mechanic? if so, what do you tend to bring over?
i usually try for a six-pack mixer of at least two different beers-a lager and an ale-if current reefer/fridge inventory
allows for it. sometimes it's just straight lager(s) or ipa's.

No.

jefnvk 01-09-19 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20739478)
Imagine, if you will, the second year grad student living in a small, third floor walk up apartment who has little money and even less time to invest in the tools and training/study necessary to become a competent mechanic. Her chain starts skipping or her wheel comes out of true. All she knows is that she needs her beater bike to get to school and around town so she stops into the closest LBS for assistance. Those of us who live in major metropolitan areas who spend enough time in LBS see this person all the time. It's one reason shops located in areas with a substantial population of people like that tend to do well.

Agreed, plenty of folks who have no knowledge/tools or simply no inclination to do their own work, nothing wrong with that. I dare say that the LBS wouldn't exist if not for them, I have to imagine the store makes far more off their repair shop than selling new bikes.

I'm very much a DIY-er, mostly because I am cheap and enjoy it, but as I get older and better paid some of that is slipping away. Bikes are simple and quick enough most of the time, but oil changes on a car? Done those since I was 16, I'll pay the shop the extra $15 over my cost on supplies and not feel bad someone else is doing it on my daily. Don't even know where the filter is on my Fusion, if I'm being completely honest. Yes, its less than an hour job, yes its easy, yes I still do it on my toy cars, and yes me from a decade ago would probably laugh at me of now, but now its simply a mundane task I don't care to do. Even on bikes, when I had a wheel with spoke tension that needed adjusted right before a trip, I took it to a shop and let them do it. Peace of mind and I simply didn't have the time to undo it and learn on my own.

ggoytia1 01-09-19 10:58 AM

When I lost 70 pounds i did bring them a bottle of rum for thier coffee, I had no idea my old bike ( new to me) would hold me up. They spent alot of time explaining everything and checking the fit and spokes for free. Got a few items while i was there.

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I-Like-To-Bike 01-09-19 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by trailangel (Post 20739362)
I took a can of Coors once and got yelled at......"F that Shiit....IPAs"

I would have replied "and FU 2" and walked out and made sure I told the owner why I was never coming back.

trailangel 01-09-19 11:07 AM

All in good fun

fietsbob 01-09-19 11:20 AM

I , a busy summer season, part time helper (retired) , @ the LBS and the Owner often have a few pints at the bar down the street..
particularly when there is a Portland Timbers [MLS] Match on the TV

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=A81ac...5&pid=3.1&rm=2

fietsbob 01-09-19 11:34 AM

Many of my younger friends are working in restaurants, a Tip is not a Bribe, they depend on them to pay for their cost of living..
In France that's different


Bikeshop wages stay near the low end*, so tips are welcome there too.




in some states tipped workers have a sub minimum* wage, so you actually make up the difference
restaurant owners can pay their servers less.

veganbikes 01-09-19 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 20739108)
No I don't, I work on my own bikes. I avoid LBS unless I need parts or if I plan on purchasing a new bike. Bike shops are just like any other business out there and I don't feel any obligation to give them special treatment.

Not at all. Yes in the end the bike shop is a business but comparing to other businesses that do different things is kind of silly. Plus a lot of people buy gifts for those who take care of them. It might be working on a bike or for your dentist or a favorite restaurant or something like that. Being a good person to those in the service industry is not a bad thing and doesn't mean you are giving special treatment. Most people will tip at a restaurant (at least good people will) so what is so different here? I am not saying you have to shower everyone with gifts all the time but buying a mechanic or sales person a beer or giving them a small tip even if just a buck or two is still a nice gesture and goes a long way.

People always have to find a way to be negative towards the bike shop. We are not the same as a grocery store or a furniture store or something like that. There is a lot of knowledge one must have to work on a bike and to sell a bike well. Yes put probably anyone in a situation and they could sell something but will you get a customer out of it or is it just a quick sale. Is that customer happy with their purchase or service or did they just get it because they needed it and won't likely come back. Being a good sales person is not an easy task and not knowing what you are doing can lose a sale and lose a customer. One of the many reasons I work at a bike shop is because it is a different experience and not just a cashier job or "go to aisle 4, I think". Let's all maybe make a new years resolution to be a little nicer to the LBS unless you have a reasonable situation which management has not resolved.

indyfabz 01-09-19 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 20739603)
Let's all maybe make a new years resolution to be a little nicer to the LBS unless you have a reasonable situation which management has not resolved.

You're asking a lot from the "I scour the Interwebs for hours to save $0.50 on inner tubes" crowd. :innocent:

NJ does not have self-serve gas stations. When I am over there for work and buy gas, I always give the attendant a couple of bucks. Imagine standing outside in the cold or heat smelling gas and exhaust fumes your entire shift for $12/hour if you are lucky..

And I am not embarrassed to admit that if I would never wash my car myself. Some things are just not worth my time compared to what they cost.

I-Like-To-Bike 01-09-19 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20739594)
Many of my younger friends are working in restaurants, a Tip is not a Bribe, they depend on them to pay for their cost of living..

Paying the waiter to ignore the patrons who arrived and/or ordered before you to serve you first is a bribe.

An LBS owner and his employees joining a few of their bros lifting a few at the local pub is not what was being discussed. And it would still be a wee-wee poor business practice for the LBS to allow favored pals to jump the service queue just because they are pals or have paid through "tips" for the favor.

rumrunn6 01-09-19 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20739640)
I scour the Interwebs for hours to save $0.50 on inner tubes

I do the same, my quest is for long stem schraders ... :D

OrenNoah 01-09-19 12:26 PM

I sure do.

My LBS owner and his employees are constantly doing me little favors. A tweak here, a tip there, etc.

Every once in a while, I show up with a six of a local microbrew.

It's become much more a matter of buying beers for my friends than a commercial transaction.

indyfabz 01-09-19 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 20739670)
Paying the waiter to ignore the patrons who arrived and/or ordered before you to serve you first is a bribe.

You do that? Everyone I know tips after they have been served, and have eaten, the entire meal.

indyfabz 01-09-19 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by OrenNoah (Post 20739709)
It's become much more a matter of buying beers for my friends than a commercial transaction.

You win this thread for today, and likely for its useful lifespan.

I-Like-To-Bike 01-09-19 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20739711)
You do that? Everyone I know tips after they have been served, and have eaten, the entire meal.

Aren't you cute, eh?:rolleyes:

If you are like the LBS bros who "tip" their pals at the LBS as described on this thread, you would show the waiter the extra "tip" upon entrance and the waiters would see to it that you are served before the other patrons, if not this time but in the future.

indyfabz 01-09-19 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 20739724)
If you are like the LBS bros who "tip" their pals at the LBS as described on this thread, you would show the waiter the extra "tip" upon entrance and the waiters would see to it that you are served before the other patrons, if not this time but in the future.

Nope. When I show up with a case of beer for my LBS my presence is not in connection with obtaining goods or services and is in recognition for having gone above and beyond in the recent past and, because, they are more than just service providers to me.

Thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts waiting back stage for you.

P.S. Not sure where you eat, but the where I dine, it's rare that the waiter/waitress or the server (who takes your order and who actually serves you your food may be two different people entirely) interacts with me upon entrance. That task is usually reserved for the host/hostess.

pdlamb 01-09-19 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20739754)
Nope. When I show up with a case of beer for my LBS my presence is not in connection with obtaining goods or services and is in recognition for having gone above and beyond in the recent past and, because, they are more than just service providers to me.

This.

One time I had put a new front derailer on and couldn't make it work. I paid the shop to adjust the derailer -- the good old mechanic was off that day, so the young kid did it. No luck; went back on Saturday, the good old guy fixed it in 10 minutes and didn't charge me, but he was sweating (un-air conditioned shop on a hot summer day). I went around the block to the convenience store and brought him back a Coke (his choice!).

Not so much payment as evening the karmic balance, perhaps.


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