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cyclist2000 01-15-19 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by wipekitty (Post 20749704)
Here's the destructions for setting up Google location sharing: https://support.google.com/maps/answ...id&hl=en&oco=0

That Road ID app looks nice, though. I might have to check that out! It looks like it's better for recreational riding, whereas Google sharing is a good setup if you just want someone to know where you are in general (e.g. my SO can check and see I'm still at the office, and didn't get hit by a truck on the commute home.)

I haven't tried the Road ID app but my sister told me it is quite a drain on her phone battery.

Milton Keynes 01-15-19 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Troul (Post 20748181)
By law in the USA, if you're out in public, you must have state issued photo I.D. on person if 18 or older.
A driver's license serves as photo I.D. Traveling out on an unbeaten path out in public does not exempt one from carrying proper I.D.
it's a requirement. America.

Um, no it's not. It's an exceptionally good idea to carry ID with you, but I'm unaware of any laws locally which state you have to have it on your person.

pauoos 01-16-19 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by nomadmax (Post 20748913)
This isn't true.

I know it to be a fact because I was a law enforcement officer for 26 years. This is the only ID I carry when I'm out on my bike ;) Currently I'm considering a chest tattoo that says "KEEP TRYING!!!" :roflmao2:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7f292b0fd3.jpg

Nice tattoo. What are you going to do if you get promoted to lieutenant?

nomadmax 01-16-19 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by pauoos (Post 20750355)
Nice tattoo. What are you going to do if you get promoted to lieutenant?

No threat of that, I retired in 2008 ;)

Occasionally, when I have reason to go back to the PD, all the youngsters (who are now much higher in rank than I ever was) call me "Sarge" and it seems very weird. This pic is when I was in charge of the Bicycle Patrol, I'm right behind the Chief of Police who is squatting. He went through the training and would occasionally ride on patrol with me and the other members. He made it a point during training that I was to show him "no mercy", which I didn't; he was a good man. Sorry for the off topic content; you definitely DO NOT have to carry identification in the USA.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...12c4978590.jpg

RidingMatthew 01-16-19 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by cyclist2000 (Post 20749818)
I haven't tried the Road ID app but my sister told me it is quite a drain on her phone battery.

i use it for my commute to and from work. So it runs give or take about an hour both ways. Sometimes if going for a longer recreational ride I will run it but sometimes not. I do wish that there was a way to share location with someone specific. I tried to figure out Find my friends app but I could not get it to work or be easy to turn on and off. I might need to do more research for the longer rides. I do tell her where I am going and we have driven most of my commuting routes.

RidingMatthew 01-16-19 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by nomadmax (Post 20750433)
No threat of that, I retired in 2008 ;)

Occasionally, when I have reason to go back to the PD, all the youngsters (who are now much higher in rank than I ever was) call me "Sarge" and it seems very weird. This pic is when I was in charge of the Bicycle Patrol, I'm right behind the Chief of Police who is squatting. He went through the training and would occasionally ride on patrol with me and the other members. He made it a point during training that I was to show him "no mercy", which I didn't; he was a good man. Sorry for the off topic content; you definitely DO NOT have to carry identification in the USA.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...12c4978590.jpg

what is the vintage of this photo? what year are those bikes? that is a good looking group of LEO

Troul 01-16-19 08:25 AM

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

I may have advanced beyond a little, however, the "Real I.D. Act" is selective at this point depending on where you may reside. Most state are compliant from the above link, IF I am reading it correctly.

I did not intend to come-off as "playing" anyone, but the name sure does fit. lol Best name selected by me ever!

nomadmax 01-16-19 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by RidingMatthew (Post 20750478)
what is the vintage of this photo? what year are those bikes? that is a good looking group of LEO

I should probably start another thread on this; I don't want to intrude upon the original topic.

I would say that's somewhere around 1995 to 1997 based on the personnel in the pic and a couple of the bikes I see. Most of them are Cannondales; I helped with the design/execution of one of the first OEM police bike here in the US, Cannondale.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...43c7e5c119.jpg


If you look to the far left you'll see a blue fork, that's a Raliegh Technium MTB. We broke many of those, they usually came unbonded at the down tube and head tube; most of the failures were catastrophic as you couldn't see it was going to fail. After that, we used Specialized (I think Rockhoppers) and looking to the right between legs you'll see a yellow one. At our peak we had 35 including me, this photo was not all of us, the rest were on duty, in court or sleeping because they worked midnights.

Here is an earlier Technium bike, never mind the Reno 911 shorts;)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4d22e1b024.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3610591c65.jpg

Cuyuna 01-16-19 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Troul (Post 20750512)
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

I may have advanced beyond a little, however, the "Real I.D. Act" is selective at this point depending on where you may reside. Most state are compliant from the above link, IF I am reading it correctly.

I did not intend to come-off as "playing" anyone, but the name sure does fit. lol Best name selected by me ever!

The Real ID Act only sets Federal standards for identification that is of acceptable quality to the Feds IF a person wants to fly on a commercial airline, enter a Federal building/facility, or enter a nuclear power plant. It has nothing to do with whether any person has to have any kind of identification at any other time or for any other purpose.

NoWhammies 01-16-19 09:52 AM

[MENTION=134924]RidingMatthew[/MENTION] I had the RoadID with a clasp. I liked it well enough; that is when I remembered to wear the thing. I left it at home as much as I wrote it. For some reason I could never get in the habit of wearing the thing. Then my GF and I split and I figured there wasn't much point in wearing it anymore anyway.

tagaproject6 01-16-19 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Troul (Post 20748181)
By law in the USA, if you're out in public, you must have state issued photo I.D. on person if 18 or older.
A driver's license serves as photo I.D. Traveling out on an unbeaten path out in public does not exempt one from carrying proper I.D.
it's a requirement. America.

Incorrect.

nomadmax 01-16-19 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cuyuna (Post 20750632)
The Real ID Act only sets Federal standards for identification that is of acceptable quality to the Feds IF a person wants to fly on a commercial airline, enter a Federal building/facility, or enter a nuclear power plant. It has nothing to do with whether any person has to have any kind of identification at any other time or for any other purpose.

EXACTLY that ^^^^^^ :thumb:

prj71 01-16-19 10:04 AM

Find someone to ride with and use the buddy system.

Cuyuna 01-16-19 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by nomadmax (Post 20750639)
EXACTLY that ^^^^^^ :thumb:

This state (Minnesota) was one of the last states to approve Real ID option for its driver's licenses. The Feds kept postponing the implementation while Minnesota and a couple of other state tried to get their act together and get its driver's license criteria established. I opted to just go for a Passport Card instead. It was $65 and good for 10 years. Wallet-size...same size as my driver's license. Now I don't have to worry about whether or not my driver's license is valid ID.

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam...rd%20Front.jpg

Ironfish653 01-17-19 04:13 PM

ROAD iD

If anyone's interested, I just got a $10 code for ROAD iD

PM if you're interested.

Milton Keynes 01-17-19 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Troul (Post 20750512)
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

I may have advanced beyond a little, however, the "Real I.D. Act" is selective at this point depending on where you may reside. Most state are compliant from the above link, IF I am reading it correctly.

I did not intend to come-off as "playing" anyone, but the name sure does fit. lol Best name selected by me ever!


The REAL ID Act establishes minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards. The purposes covered by the Act are: accessing Federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft.
This hardly equates to "everyone is required by law must carry ID at all times."

MoAlpha 01-17-19 04:50 PM

I have a tag with my name, spouse’s contact, and insurance info, on a ball chain around my neck. From what I’ve seen of EMS and ER personnel and procedure, however, there’s an even chance no one will think to look at it. It will, however, ID my remains if I go over the side offshore and don’t wash up anywhere for a few weeks.

Cuyuna 01-17-19 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 20752779)
This hardly equates to "everyone is required by law must carry ID at all times."

As you note, Real ID has nothing to do with having to produce one's "papers" at the whim of a random police officer.

Jeff K. 01-17-19 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 20752790)
I have a tag with my name, spouse’s contact, and insurance info, on a ball chain around my neck. From what I’ve seen of EMS and ER personnel and procedure, however, there’s an even chance no one will think to look at it. It will, however, ID my remains if I go over the side offshore and don’t wash up anywhere for a few weeks.

If you are unconscious, with it around your neck they will certainly find it during their initial assessment unless they are completely and epically incompetent (15+ years as a paramedic in a previous life talking here).

MoAlpha 01-17-19 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff K. (Post 20752918)


If you are unconscious, with it around your neck they will certainly find it during their initial assessment unless they are completely and epically incompetent (15+ years as a paramedic in a previous life talking here).

A year as a medical intern and three as a neurology resident says you’re probably right, but I did see epic incompetence and also major trauma rooms with 7 or 8 highly competent people in them, each of whom was far too focused on something else to do more than snip it off.

Milton Keynes 01-17-19 07:28 PM

That's why I like the idea of the bright yellow Road ID wrist band, hopefully first responders will notice it. Anyone know exactly how big the tag on the band is?

MoAlpha 01-17-19 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Milton Keynes (Post 20752975)
That's why I like the idea of the bright yellow Road ID wrist band, hopefully first responders will notice it. Anyone know exactly how big the tag on the band is?

The tag on the wristband I have, but don’t wear, measures about 45 x 20 mm. It is much more obviously informational than my little necklace.

kcblair 01-17-19 07:46 PM

I use Garmin Live Track, so my wife knows where I'm at. Plus, being old and forgetful, I don't want to leave my DL in my bike stuff, so I made a copy of my DL , with phone number and other data, on the back side, and leave it in my saddle bag.KB

bionicOldGuy 01-21-19 12:47 PM

I recently had an experience of this hiking with a group. We came upon a young mountain biker lying unconscious next the trail. We had a couple of nurses and a vet with us so good emergency expertise. Fortunately we had cell reception so they called 911 immediately, then got him stabilized. They found his ID on his phone which not locked, they could get to his contact info and actually got ahold of his dad. Kudos to emergency services response, rangers showed up in a few minutes, firefighter EMTs in about 10. They got hiim transported pretty quickly., still unconscious. Unfortunately because of privacy (HIPPA) we could not get a followup on his condition.

I tell this to drive home the point that having ID is important, even for younger folks.

EdGear 01-21-19 01:09 PM

I carry my license, credit card, medical insurance card and some cash in a small zip-lock bag.
It goes in my jersey pocket on road rides and shorts pocket on MTB rides.
I carry them on my body in case I am separated from my bike.
The cash is to buy food and drink, in case I didn't bring enough, or want a treat.
Most of my helmets have a sticker inside with contact information.
I also carry my cell phone for emergencies and because it's my camera.
I'm cautious about tracking apps because they could run down the phone battery.
I should find a good APP.
I ride with a heart rate monitor for medical reasons. I can ride further and longer if pay attention to my heart rate.
When I ride from the bay over the hills to the coast I'm on the smallest, most remote, backroads and there are large areas without cell coverage.
Most of these rides I am solo.
I have a Garmin InReach satellite communicator I use for motorcycle adventures.
It allows you to send and receive text messages at anyplace on the planet.
The text messages include your location.
I'll carry the InReach on solo coastal rides.
Only carry what you think you can use to keep yourself alive to ride another day.


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