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Old 01-19-19, 12:17 PM
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It was 40 years ago today

Actually the anniversary is tomorrow. This is the very first video of the sport that would eventually be named "mountain biking," filmed on January 20, 1979. This is hardly the first time this has been posted here, but because it's a nice round numbered anniversary, I thought I would give it another mention.

You may have seen a few frames of this in the film "Klunkerz."

In late 1978 producer from a local TV station had heard about this crazy downhill race involving a bunch of hippies in Fairfax. He tracked me down and asked if I would put on a race for the TV cameras.

Of course.

When the gang heard that it would be filmed, turnout was huge. The video was broadcast on the local CBS affiliate on a program called "Evening Magazine." Later it was shown again on the national broadcast of the same program, the first time the public was exposed to this new sport which the participants called "klunking.""

Gary Fisher gets off a great line when asked how long this had been going on. "It's been going on as long as people have been riding bikes. For us it's been just the last five years or so, and in that time it's come a long way, and it's GOING a long way."

If you're attentive, you can see a quick shot of Tom Ritichey on Wende Cragg's Schwinn klunker. He was there at the invitation of Joe Breeze. Later that year Gary Fisher would ask Tom to build a couple of these new bikes.

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…....and the rest is history.
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Dirty.
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the best changes in the world often come from smelly people.

edit: proud to be called a hippie
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Come on down to the Marin Museum of Bicycling/Mountain Bike Hall of Fame in Fairfax on Sunday, January 20 at 3:00 for the 40th Anniversary showing of the ORIGINAL version of the Evening Magazine video, without the terrible music added by Youtube.

While you're there, you can have a look at the expanded museum area and the new improvements to the property.
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Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
Actually the anniversary is tomorrow. This is the very first video of the sport that would eventually be named "mountain biking," filmed on January 20, 1979. This is hardly the first time this has been posted here, but because it's a nice round numbered anniversary, I thought I would give it another mention.

You may have seen a few frames of this in the film "Klunkerz."

In late 1978 producer from a local TV station had heard about this crazy downhill race involving a bunch of hippies in Fairfax. He tracked me down and asked if I would put on a race for the TV cameras.

Of course.

When the gang heard that it would be filmed, turnout was huge. The video was broadcast on the local CBS affiliate on a program called "Evening Magazine." Later it was shown again on the national broadcast of the same program, the first time the public was exposed to this new sport which the participants called "klunking.""

Gary Fisher gets off a great line when asked how long this had been going on. "It's been going on as long as people have been riding bikes. For us it's been just the last five years or so, and in that time it's come a long way, and it's GOING a long way."

If you're attentive, you can see a quick shot of Tom Ritichey on Wende Cragg's Schwinn klunker. He was there at the invitation of Joe Breeze. Later that year Gary Fisher would ask Tom to build a couple of these new bikes.

Here is the YouTube link.
Great post Charlie!

You and the others from Repack may never know the full extent of the influence you had. Were it not for the Repack Riders and the mountain bike industry that was driven from it, I wouldn't have had the opportunity to be one of the founding members of the International Police Mountain Bike Association (IPMBA).

IPMBA - Training, news, and networking for police bicycle patrols.
IPMBA is responsible for training LEO/Public Safety personnel around the world.

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About IPMBA - IPMBA

I would have also missed out on running the Dayton Ohio Police Bike Patrol which was the best time I ever had in my 26 year career.


As the first president of IPMBA I sincerely thank you and the others for "paving" the way for us to provide protection to the public where cars won't go and for giving us a great medium to establish a rapport with the public, as we are much more approachable on a bike. I think the funniest part of the video is one quote that said "Klunking is best when the cops aren't around" Based on the proliferation of IPMBA you accomplished just the opposite

We hold an international conference every year for training and information exchanging, in 2018 it was in St Louis. Even though I'm retired now, I still attend the conferences and am always happy to see how the organization has progressed. In 2019 the conference will be in Fort Worth, TX; I'd like to get you out to one sometime. You and some other free thinkers flooded the country with cops on bikes, which I can only assume was an unintended consequence



Happy Anniversary

PM me your info sometime Charlie if you think you'd like to see it.

Allan

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Now there is speed cameras an law enforcement to cope with, there.. Mt Tam..








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Old 01-19-19, 01:39 PM
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Now there is speed cameras an law enforcement to cope with, there.. Mt Tam.....
Repack is not on Mount Tam, it's on Pine Mountain, and there are no speed cameras on it.
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Its a Fire Road..
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I was fresh out of high school over in the east bay city of Hayward. My roommate Andy and I were bumbling along, making our way without direction or discipline. A couple other knuckleheads, Mike and his roommate Joe lived across the street and Mike had a friend of a friend who knew of some guys riding bikes all over Mt Tamalpais. It sounded pretty cool and offered a distraction from the dead end path we four were on at the time.

We tried modifying cheap 10 speeds but the frames were too frail and the trails too rough. We bodged the 10 speed drivetrains onto more robust Schwinn cruisers and that worked a little bit better. Mike came up with a throw away frame from one of the Mt Tam guys, a heavily braced and bubblegum welded monstrosity. He rode it till it broke beyond repair, but it became the template for many attempts that followed. We terrorized the trails all over the East Bay from Tilden to Lake Chabot and Redwood in between.

By 1983 I’d finally saved up enough minimum wage to buy my dream bike, a Specialized Stumpjumper. A few years earlier, it was the first production mountain bike made, and when I got mine I was living the dream. Mike was riding a frame he got from a guy named Gary Fisher. Joe got snagged by a gorgeous blonde who dragged him into a life of responsibility. Andy joined the Navy.

It wasn’t long before the park rangers had to do something. The East Bay hills were overrun by idiots like myself who rode wild and reckless and beyond our ability far too often. In the years that followed, trails were closed, speed limits set, and the realities of reason and common sense swept across the East Bay Regional Park District. I went on to college.

I’ve continued to ride those same hills and trails all these years. And while the bikes and technology have only gotten better, the engine has worn past its prime. There’s still a bit left in the tank, but it’s far slower and deliberate with plenty of stopping to enjoy the view. The Columbine single track was one of the first trails the park district closed to bikes, but to this day the eucalyptus tree Mike, Joe and I dragged into position parallel to the creek is still there. We packed the dirt along side the downed trunk to create a launch ramp so we could clear the creek if we held enough speed coming down the hill. I walk that trail with my wife now, and I’m sure she’s tired of hearing the story of how that tree trunk got there.

Thanks to the OP for unlocking the moment of reminiscence. Time flies, but yet seems to stand still. I feel lucky to have been around at such a changing time. I have an unsuspended 29er project bike I built. I’m gonna go ride it over by the lake.



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Fun video.

I have an old Schwinn balloon tire frame buried around here somewhere. Perhaps I should hunt down some cheap vintage 10-speed parts and build it up.
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Originally Posted by Repack Rider View Post
Come on down to the Marin Museum of Bicycling/Mountain Bike Hall of Fame in Fairfax on Sunday, January 20 at 3:00 for the 40th Anniversary showing of the ORIGINAL version of the Evening Magazine video, without the terrible music added by Youtube.

While you're there, you can have a look at the expanded museum area and the new improvements to the property.
Congrats on the anniversary, Charlie!
Is the museum expansion done yet?
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Cool stuff.

Don't think the speed record will ever be beaten, as water bars have been added to the road.

Just for kicks, here's a pic of the street scene shown at the beginning with the truck,

in the 1920s.

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Those guys were so much ahead of their time. Note that almost all of them had 1x setups.
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Back in 1989 the bike shop where I worked was full of mountain bikes. We moved the handful of road bikes we still had in stock up to the second floor, no one was interested in them. Our counter had new issues of "Mountain Biking," and most of the articles in "Bicycling" were about mountain bikes, suspension forks, and knobby tires.

In 2019, as of this moment, 19 people are viewing the Mountain Bike forum, 123 are viewing the Road Bike forum. My old bike shop is now full of road bike and hybrids, with the few mountain bikes still in stock up on the second floor.

Mountain biking was more than a fad, as it was very popular for more than 2 decades, but it has faded as road cycling faded in the 80's. I imagine it will one day make a comeback, and road cycling has.
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Those guys were so much ahead of their time. Note that almost all of them had 1x setups.
If someone is hauling you to the top of a hill so that you can coast (mostly) down, a 1x system is just fine. The people who followed realized that if you want to go up and down hills, a 1x is pretty limited...just like now.
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In 1982 and 83 I worked at Alameda Bicycles, which is still there today in Alameda, CA. We only had road bikes in the shop and wondered what was going on across the bay. What are those things? Little did we know what was going on would infect the entire planet.
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We weren't Hippies by 79. We were called Heads. Still a few hold out Hippies around but the new young ones were called The Rainbow People by then. All great people
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I was very interested in mountain bikes in the early '80's, based almost entirely on what I read about them in magazines. Never actually had one, but did buy a Jamis city bike in '85 which was based on their MTB line. It served me very well for about 8 years in Atlanta and then Indianapolis primarily as a commuter bike. It only got off-road a few times. Riding home from work in Atlanta once, a young woman on a downtown sidewalk saw me and my bike and yelled out "Allright! Fat tires!"
The Jamis Gentry was replaced by a Cannondale hybrid, which served my suburban/urban style better.
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That's fantastic, thanks. I for one had never seen it, so it's much appreciated.
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A huge thanks dude, to you and all the other Repak Riders and builders and early pioneers. I wish I could have been there and experienced that craziness. Don't get me wrong full-sus, bigger wheels and all sort of safety gear are neat and really nice to have but to think we started with old balloon tire bikes bombing down hills and mountains in jeans and jackets and not that long ago is crazy. How far we have come. I wonder what the mountain bikes of 2059 will look like (assuming there is a 2059)?
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Nope.

"Mountain bikes accounted for $600 million in sales at IBDs over the past year, making up the single largest category at specialty stores. The category grew 5 percent through June of this year, with most of the growth in full-suspension bikes.

Sorenson noted that with SRAM's Eagle 12-speed drivetrain spec'd on bikes in the $2,500 to $3,000 price band, many consumers are moving to that price range. But the $4,500 to $4,999 price band is also growing in mountain bikes.

The road category was down 5 percent to $424 million in IBDs, while 'cross/gravel bikes (a subcategory of road) were up 15 percent to $66 million. In road, the typically most popular price band — $500 to $2,000 — is losing share to bands above that. Sorenson attributed that to widespread adoption of disc brakes."

The devil is in the details. What is considered a "mountain bike" by those of us here at Bike Forums is a little different from what are described as mountain bikes as a general product. Most of bikes sold in developing countries are loosely defined as mountain bikes.

Here in Japan mountain bikes are becoming scarce in bike shops. The local Bic Camera in Akasaka (which has a large cycling shop) has a variety of road bikes, shopping bikes, kid's bikes, and power-assist bikes, but none, not one mountain bike. The nearby Y's road, which has 5 floors of bikes, has three floors of road bikes, a floor of hybrids and touring bikes, and half of one floor of mountain bikes.

The Yodobashi Camera store in Akihabara has a good selection of everything except mountain bikes. If indeed mountain bikes are outselling road bikes, why can't I find any for sale? And if they are so popular, why is almost no one visiting the mountain bike forum here? Look at this moment and compare how many people are looking at each forum and see for yourself.
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The devil is in the details. What is considered a "mountain bike" by those of us here at Bike Forums is a little different from what are described as mountain bikes as a general product. Most of bikes sold in developing countries are loosely defined as mountain bikes.

Here in Japan mountain bikes are becoming scarce in bike shops. The local Bic Camera in Akasaka (which has a large cycling shop) has a variety of road bikes, shopping bikes, kid's bikes, and power-assist bikes, but none, not one mountain bike. The nearby Y's road, which has 5 floors of bikes, has three floors of road bikes, a floor of hybrids and touring bikes, and half of one floor of mountain bikes.

The Yodobashi Camera store in Akihabara has a good selection of everything except mountain bikes. If indeed mountain bikes are outselling road bikes, why can't I find any for sale? And if they are so popular, why is almost no one visiting the mountain bike forum here? Look at this moment and compare how many people are looking at each forum and see for yourself.
OR even check Youtube. There are a LOT of mountain bikers with popular channels with big followings. Check out BCPOV channel. His wife,Yuka, is Japanese and they have taken a few trips there and have hung out with some good riders.
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40 years ago, working full-time, going to law school at nights, Trek bikes were a young brand and I was riding one of'm that I toured the coast route with a year later. I bought one of the first Stumpjumpers ~ 6 years later.
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