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Old 02-09-19, 03:45 PM
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Uh...No. Sort of a running joke. It's from an independent, custom ti frame builder in Philadelphia. That image is reversed. The brand is Engin. See page 5 of this thread for the actual photo.
Oh, Ok, that's' funny!
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Old 02-09-19, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by luevelvet View Post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trek_Bicycle_Corporation

"With its headquarters in Waterloo, Wisconsin, Trek bicycles are marketed through 1,700 dealers across North America, subsidiaries in Europe and Asia as well as distributors in 90 countries worldwide. 99% of Trek bicycles are manufactured outside the United States, in countries including the Netherlands, Germany, and China.[2]"
And this site: https://www.cips.org/en/supply-manag...still-growing/
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
Anyone that claims Treks are crap is simply talking trash as they know it is not true. Their bikes are made in the same factories as the other brands out there. So if Trek is crap so are the rest of them.
Disclaimer: I do not own a Trek, but have in the past.
only difference is trek is 1.5x to 3x the price
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I wonder about something, since Trek's are made by Giant, would Giant make their own bikes inferior to Treks knowing that the Giant company is the worlds largest frame production plant and therefore making the world to believe that Giant is a lower tier bike company? I don't think Giant would do that, in fact if anything wouldn't they make sure that all the other brands they make are either equal or less than equal to the Giant brand? Hmm, now I wonder if Trek is inferior to Giant yet cost more than Giant?
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Of the 4 shops that are in driving distance to me one is a Trek Store, one is a stocking dealer of Specialized & Felt, another is a leftover from BITD that is a Swchinn dealer but doesn't stock any bikes from what I could tell the one time I've been there this century (I bought my last new BMX race bike there back in the '80s). And there is a new one that just opened next to the Tweetie trail in Johnson City Tennessee. I've not been in there, they show to be stocking Fuji and TransionBikes.Of the 4 the Trek Store is by far the most active as far involvement in promoting rides and getting a new MTB park open. It's a young husband and wife team who own it and they are both very friendly people. Every time I've been in there I want to buy a bike from them. Plus, Trek offers an extensive line and are always leading in innovation.It would be my opinion that it's not an accident you're seeing a lot of Trek, good marketing, great products good values with a dealer network that backs what they sale.
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Old 02-10-19, 07:52 AM
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Dude, c'mon. Almost all "Italian" bikes are made in Asia. This includes all Pinarellos, every Colnago except the C64 (which is glued together and painted in Italy from tubes and lugs made in... Asia), the vast majority (all?) of Bottecchias (lol) etc. They're made in Asia not just for cost reasons, but also because that's where the manufacturing expertise and supply chain is the best. This "origin" stuff has been bull**** for several decades and didn't really matter in the first place:
https://www.velonews.com/2012/03/bik...-origin_211105
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Dude, if ignorance be a mark of distinction, you, sir, are one very distinguished person.

Carry on.
How does posting an article about where bicycles are built today mark one as ignorant?

What in the article did you take issue with or find to be not true?
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Old 02-10-19, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by greatscott View Post
I wonder about something, since Trek's are made by Giant, would Giant make their own bikes inferior to Treks knowing that the Giant company is the worlds largest frame production plant and therefore making the world to believe that Giant is a lower tier bike company? I don't think Giant would do that, in fact if anything wouldn't they make sure that all the other brands they make are either equal or less than equal to the Giant brand? Hmm, now I wonder if Trek is inferior to Giant yet cost more than Giant?
Giant started out as a builder for other brands then branched off into their own brand. They’re so big that I think they don’t care how good or bad their own brand is against others. Trek is just a client for which they provide frame building services and shouldn’t factor into their ability to make good bikes themselves.

I could be wrong but look up Giant factory tours on YouTube and you’ll see that they have plenty of resources to provide quality services to “competing” brands.

Also the success of their competition that they build for is directly related to how much business they continue to get so if you think about it, making good stuff all around is in their best interest, not just for their brand but also for their OEM markets and services.
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Old 02-10-19, 08:54 AM
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How does posting an article about where bicycles are built today mark one as ignorant?

What in the article did you take issue with or find to be not true?
I did not take issue with the article, many fine bikes are made in Asia (lots of crappy bikes too).

I take issue with The poster’s ignorance as evidenced in his conclusions.

My C59 and C60 were fully made in Italy, that includes the tubes and lugs. The carbon fabrics are made in Japan, by Toray. Toray also makes the carbon fabrics used by Ferrari to make its cars. Are Ferraris Japanese and not Italian?

My Bottecchia and Master are also fully made in Italy.

If people want to buy and ride Asia-made bikes that’s fine. If they want to believe that their bikes are superior to Italian bikes that’s fine with me too.

I buy and bikes made in Italy. I think they are superior, look better and are more desireable. Same reason why I buy and drive German cars.

My money, my life, my choice.

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You must not be looking hard enough. The UK has 300 Trek dealers. Granted there are more Trek dealer per capita (1 for each 113.000 Coloradans vs 1 for each 213,000 UK subjects) just in Colorado but that's still a lot of dealers. However, when you compare US Trek dealers per capita to the UK, there's more Trek dealers per capita in the UK (one Trek dealer for each 224,000 US citizens).
That doesn't mean they sell well. I visit many local bike shops and here in the UK they tend to sell more of the high end bikes which sell in very low numbers but as part of the overall sales of bikes they are statistically quite low I think. Sometimes you go into such dealers and you might have 5-6 bike brands. I think Trek road bikes are less significant over here than Trek mountain bikes but maybe that is just how it seems to me. I would more likely expect to see a Trek bike in an off road situation.

As for value I would say they are very poor value here in the UK, many of their entry level bikes are best avoided with poor quality components compared to shop brands. Sort of bikes pushed by local bike shops as their value model but compare badly to those bikes many retail chains import directly from the factories in the far east under their own brand. A shop brand bike costing £300 might be equal to a Trek bike costing £500 in component terms and many aren't prepared to pay that £200 premium even if it does mean better support from their local bike shop. Most bikes sold in the UK would be lower value bikes and shop brand bikes. I think Halfords in the UK has about 25% of the market by value and 40% of bicycle unit sales. They do many fantastic bikes at great prices and nationwide support albeit with some reportedly poorly skilled bike mechanics sometimes. I would say the sit in between walmart and independent bike shops in bike quality and bike pricing. Maybe similar to Dick's sporting goods?
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Old 02-10-19, 03:27 PM
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They’re so big that I think they don’t care how good or bad their own brand is against others.

Oh my, that's not at all how they got to be where they are in the highly competitive bicycle market. If you know something about their manufacturing standards that the rest of us don't, please enlighten us.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
My C59 and C60 were fully made in Italy, that includes the tubes and lugs. The carbon fabrics are made in Japan, by Toray.

My Bottecchia and Master are also fully made in Italy.

Thanks for your reply eja bottechchia. How about posting a pic or two of your fine Italian built bike(s)? They sound nice. Don't allow indy to have the only Anti-Trek bike posted in the thread!
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Old 02-10-19, 07:16 PM
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Thanks for your reply eja bottechchia. How about posting a pic or two of your fine Italian built bike(s)? They sound nice. Don't allow indy to have the only Anti-Trek bike posted in the thread!
Will do...here you are. And, BTW, I never meant to imply that Asian made bikes are not good. Like I wrote earlier, some are very good. I just have a thing for Italian design and style. There is something about things that are fabricatto in Italia, that appeals to me. If my wife ever allowed it, I would buy a Ducatiand if I ever won the lottery, there is a Ferrari dealer near my home with a red Ferrari calling out my name. Alas, I am not a trust fund baby, so Colnago is the closest that I will ever get to that red Ferrari.





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Oh my!

How many top of the line Treks for the whole bunch? Com'on, everyone has their price...
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Originally Posted by venturi95 View Post
They’re so big that I think they don’t care how good or bad their own brand is against others.

Oh my, that's not at all how they got to be where they are in the highly competitive bicycle market. If you know something about their manufacturing standards that the rest of us don't, please enlighten us.
Im not trying to argue your point but I’m curious about the details of how this all panned out. I was commenting on the idea that Giant May intentionally give bad products to someone like Trek because they’re competition. But admittedly that was an assumption so now I’m truly curious how this all worked out.
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Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana View Post
That doesn't mean they sell well. I visit many local bike shops and here in the UK they tend to sell more of the high end bikes which sell in very low numbers but as part of the overall sales of bikes they are statistically quite low I think. Sometimes you go into such dealers and you might have 5-6 bike brands. I think Trek road bikes are less significant over here than Trek mountain bikes but maybe that is just how it seems to me. I would more likely expect to see a Trek bike in an off road situation.
So 300 Trek dealers are just sitting around selling nothing? That makes no sense. If something doesn't sell well, the business selling it ceases to exist. I'm relatively certain that Trek didn't just dip their toes into the UK market so those are established shops that aren't struggling to introduce Treks either.

As for the road/mountain bike split, that is norm everywhere because mountain bike sales have been much higher than road bike sales for decades.
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