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Old 02-09-19, 03:48 PM
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Why my rifle is always loaded walking into and out of my deer stand in the dark
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Here are a couple catamounts trying to kill my sister. She seems to take it in good spirits though.
Wow! Testing Darwin's Theory for sure.
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Eyes in the back of your head. Hopefully that will confuse the cat enough to scare him off.
Fake eyes looking back on the last guy in line walking, I read somewhere that's what tiger hunters do.
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I don't consider myself especially "brave", but if a mountain lion has his jaws clamped on me, you can damned well bet I'll fight and try to strangle it.
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i bet the jenvinile ML was really hangry...probalby its mom got killed earlier...so juveile havent the skillz yet to find food...mom would teach to hunt deer and rabbitz...now it is alone in the world...hangry...it is desperate hangry...so started to chase anything that moves.
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Around here, mountain lions kill deer and then rip out their kidneys and eat them, leaving the remainder for scavengers.
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Old 02-10-19, 09:27 PM
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East coast now has a great white shark problem in waters I grew up in and raised my kids in so keep your cats please
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Old 02-10-19, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
East coast now has a great white shark problem in waters I grew up in and raised my kids in so keep your cats please
Out at the Farallon Islands there is a pod of Killer whales that have learned to feed on great whites. They flip them upside down and hold them until they suffocate. When this happens, the other sharks disappear. A tagged shark was tracked and I guess they beeline to the Hawaii.
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Old 02-10-19, 11:44 PM
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But was he on a bike? Nope, a runner.

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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Where was it that sick cat killed the mountain biker outside Seattle last year?

As I remember, two guys were riding together. The cat attacked one of them had his head in its jaws. The other guy ran away and the cat left the bloodied guy and attacked the runner and killed him, dragging him off into the woods. The bloodied head guy survived.

Moral: never run from a large cat.
Where did you get that? That's not characteristic of a mountain lion. Humans aren't on their food list and they will avoid human contact. Attacks happen when you stumble onto them, or they are cornered.

One more thing, these are wild animals not pets. They can turn on you in the blink of an eye.
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Old 02-11-19, 05:14 AM
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Where did you get that? That's not characteristic of a mountain lion. Humans aren't on their food list and they will avoid human contact. Attacks happen when you stumble onto them, or they are cornered.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0909f89d49f8

Appears to have been sick and desperate.
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Where did you get that? That's not characteristic of a mountain lion. Humans aren't on their food list and they will avoid human contact. Attacks happen when you stumble onto them, or they are cornered.
Sounds like you have confused mountain lion and bears. There have many incidents of mountain lions stalking and attacking humans. Read "Beast in the Garden". There have been many more incidents after that book was published.
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East coast now has a great white shark problem in waters I grew up in and raised my kids in so keep your cats please
We have those here, too. We even have a nursery of great whites where our kids do "junior guards" events.
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There have been many more incidents after that book was published.
Publication of the book was really irresponsible, as it clearly planted this idea into the heads of many young and impressionable mountain lions.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Where was it that sick cat killed the mountain biker outside Seattle last year?

As I remember, two guys were riding together.

At least one was trans. It is clearly a mountain lion hate-crime.
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Old 02-11-19, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GailT View Post
Sounds like you have confused mountain lion and bears. There have many incidents of mountain lions stalking and attacking humans. Read "Beast in the Garden". There have been many more incidents after that book was published.
A few years ago, the ex-husband of an old friend and former student of mine (I was a TA in legal research and writing) was attacked and partially consumed by a grizzly while working in Yellowstone. The bear then cached his body. It's believed he came upon it and her two cubs.

In 2016 or so, two relatives were MTB-ing on U.S.F.S. land not far from Glacier National Park. The lead guy was bombing a wooded descent at up to 25 mph. Came around a bend and hit a grizzly, which proceeded to maul him to death. He was a Forest Service cop. The pal, who I think was his brother in law, came upon the scene, but there was nothing he could do so he rode off. Accident reconstruction calculated that, depending on riding speed, he had between 1 and 3 seconds to react after seeing the bear. The deceased had upper body/limb injuries consistent with flying over the handlebars, which is why they think he struck the animal and pissed it off. The animal eas not hunted because there were no signs of predatory behavior. (I.e., It did not eat and/or cache the body.)
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We have those here, too. We even have a nursery of great whites where our kids do "junior guards" events.
so the Jr guards practice w the Jr sharks?
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so the Jr guards practice w the Jr sharks?
Yeah, it turns out they don't typically feed on humans during procreation.

Sometimes they take it more seriously, if folks from out of town are visiting:
https://www.ksbw.com/article/15-shar...nceled/1056952

Personally, I am far more worried about the used hypodermic needles in the sand.

Doesn't seem to bother the triatheloners either:
https://www.santacruzwaves.com/2015/...-shark-scares/

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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
East coast now has a great white shark problem in waters I grew up in and raised my kids in so keep your cats please
Well not really a problem, as long as you're not swimming while wearing a black wetsuit.

The GW's have pretty much always had a presence off the eastern shores of Cape Cod but there's been an increase in the past few years as the seal population increased. They think possibly due to warming ocean waters. But the GW's have always used these waters as a breeding ground and it's been a known fact. The water for swimming tends to be cold till Sept. or so, so there haven't been many problems until lately. As well lots of folks using drones and can now take great video's of what looks like sharks stalking surfers and such. Likely they've always done that but nobody knew.

It was a bit of a surprise to discover that Sand Tiger Sharks use the Great South Bay of Long Island as a nursery, as well as there being a breading ground off the south shore of the Hamptons for GW's. Thing is, there's a great deal more research being done these days and better technology to track sharks, so we are finding out about shark behavior that's been mostly unknown.
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But the GW's have always used these waters as a breeding ground and it's been a known fact.
"All this machine does is swim, and eat and make little sharks."--Matt Hooper
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Where did you get that?
From recent history. You can find the articles on it if you want.

That's not characteristic of a mountain lion.
No, it was the first cat related death in the state in 100 years, I think. The cat was like 40 lbs under weight. Sick, obviously.
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From recent history. You can find the articles on it if you want.
See post # 61 above. I gave him a link.
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Last July, my son, Jeff a coworker and I were riding the Tour Divide route. We had come over Lodgepole pass and stopped to grab a bite at Butts Cabin before going over Cabin Pass. It was getting late in the afternoon as we crested Cabin Pass and we were all a bit tired from the climb and we had a strong headwind. The wind through the scrub and grass was a bit loud. Jeff was ahead of us about 12 feet when all of the sudden a mountain lion hopped up from behind a clump of grass and took off down a grassy embankment. We were downwind and it was relatively noisy so it had no idea that we were there. That was one of the highlights of the ride. Later on, I took some pictures of footprints in the mud from a bit cat. Might have been the same one.
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That was one of the highlights of the ride.
I have seen several bears during bike tours, including a huge black bear in 2017 that was too close to comfort (staring at each from a distance of about 25' a I was about to leave camp). I find myself torn over wanting to see a lion. I am sure it was tres cool, but at the same I wonder if it would be terrifying under many situations.

When I was in Glacier N.P. in 2017 the campground host told me that the year before a lion came into camp and killed one of a small group of deer that would frequent the campground. They believe heavy spring snow at higher elevations forced the cat down to find food. I got this vision of getting out of my tent only to find a hungry big cat licking its lips.
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Last July, my son, Jeff a coworker and I were riding the Tour Divide route. We had come over Lodgepole pass and stopped to grab a bite at Butts Cabin before going over Cabin Pass. It was getting late in the afternoon as we crested Cabin Pass and we were all a bit tired from the climb and we had a strong headwind. The wind through the scrub and grass was a bit loud. Jeff was ahead of us about 12 feet when all of the sudden a mountain lion hopped up from behind a clump of grass and took off down a grassy embankment. We were downwind and it was relatively noisy so it had no idea that we were there. That was one of the highlights of the ride. Later on, I took some pictures of footprints in the mud from a bit cat. Might have been the same one.
Very cool indeed. I have a feeling that lion knew you were there even though it could not smell you.

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