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Old 02-13-19, 09:23 AM
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So,,, Out For My Morning Ride And........

Man am I bummed. Yesterday I put brand new set Cont Gator Skins on my bike. The old ones had 5,528 uneventful miles on them, but I could not see the 'wear dimples' and I just did not want to push them any longer. After all the tires are a lot cheaper than 'butt-skin'.


So,,,, during my first ride on the new tires I was about 5.5 miles into my normal 17 mile dawn ride. All of a sudden I heard a hair raising 'crunch' and loud rapid 'PSSSSSSSsssst. I stopped and discovered that I experienced a very fast deflation event with new rear tire. I had a hugely loud discussion with Buda and anyone else listening.


I turned my lights off (I ride in predawn darkness) and started towards home. Which was a challenge in my 'clipless' pedal shoes. Whew, I made it home about the same time it would take me to do the 17 miles.


My question to all of you is: Would you put a new tube in this injured tire and ride like you stole the bike?? Or buy a new one? (The funds would have to come out of my Brewski allowance.)


Thanks for any input...... 'Donations' Excepted'........ (grin)










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Old 02-13-19, 09:30 AM
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Being the cheap SOB that I am, I'd probably patch the tire and reuse it...or try to, anyway.
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Old 02-13-19, 09:34 AM
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I would have put a spare tube in it when it happened (subtle hint) and a boot if you think the tube would poke through the hole. If money is tight I would patch the tire and continue to ride it. As long as the tube doesn't protrude when fully inflated you should be OK. It will likely be a magnet for future flats so it might be good to replace the tire and jump on the wagon for a while until your beer fund is replenished.
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Old 02-13-19, 09:39 AM
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The inside doesn’t look too bad. I’d boot it with a couple layers of gaffers tape. Keep it on the rear though.
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Old 02-13-19, 09:41 AM
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Do not use that tyre. Contact the people you bought it from, they way well replace it free of charge, or contact Continental themselves.

Had some issues with Schwalbe Marathons, brand new once. The rear tyre blew out on first ride over Paris cobblestones - glass or something, never did find the reason. Rang the bike shop who replaced the offending tyre and gave me an extra just in case.
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Old 02-13-19, 10:05 AM
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"Very fast deflation events" are a fact of life.

The tire with the hole in it is garbage.

A spare tire from my closet would have been on my bike in the time it took to write the first post in this thread.


Originally Posted by MePoocho View Post
After all the tires are a lot cheaper than 'butt-skin'.
You have answered your own question right there.


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Old 02-13-19, 10:34 AM
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I would boot it just to get me home, but I don't think I'd rely on it for a ride of any length too far from home.
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My question to you is: Why didn't you boot the tire and replace the tube?

P.S. I wouldn't ride on that tire.
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Old 02-13-19, 10:45 AM
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the tire saved your butt, save your beer belly & spend the $$ on a new tire

but, another person walking 5 miles instead of road side repair ...
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Old 02-13-19, 10:47 AM
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It a back tire so depend on how u ride if ur going down hills at 40 miles a hour definitely not.if ur cruising along at 15 mph then boot the tire and get another couple thousand miles out of it rode worst on my errand bike all was ok .
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Old 02-13-19, 10:50 AM
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Anytime I see the cords are cut all the way through, I'd really be hard-pressed to run the tire again. You must've caught something good. Gatorskins have 3 seperate (60tpi?) casings for a very high tpi total. Plus kevlar. Plus thick rubber "tread." You cut through a lot of to get to where you are.

Since you've only rode 5 miles on it, I'd say it failed to meet expectations or failed to perform as advertised. Just to see what the shop or Conti has to say on the matter. It's tough to see money catch on fire like that. I'd also fully expect to pay full price for another one though & have the cash in hand if the shop resisted in the slightest. I've tossed hundreds of dollars in race rubber for the same reasons. Sometimes, that's life. FWIW: I've never had a Gator fail or be unusable.

At least you weren't 30 miles from town!
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Old 02-13-19, 11:00 AM
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As your first pic denotes "put a fork in it it's done".
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Old 02-13-19, 11:24 AM
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I run tubeless and have have had a couple of places where a puncture refused to seal. I patched those and have been fine with it ever since. The gouge on the tread is pretty substantial and I'd recommend against keeping it.
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Old 02-13-19, 11:30 AM
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I also would not trust that tire any longer.
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Originally Posted by DowneasTTer View Post
As your first pic denotes "put a fork in it it's done".
My thoughts, too, especially since that looks like the kind of tire that runs at high pressure and the cord body has been badly breached. See if you can get some satisfaction from the supplier, but if not, get a new one anyway.
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what did you hit?
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I've experimented with booting, some success, some failures.

I can't say what I'd do with that. Perhaps try some kind of a heavy boot. One person suggested glued in sail cloth??? I still need to track some down in Portland sometime when I'm up there.

You should be able to find good sail cloth in Florida. Look for a sailmakers shop.

My experiments with Park Boots is that they are ineffective for long-term riding.

As mentioned, put it on the rear if you're wishing to experiment.
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Well this one is a good peek at just how much of a cheapskate I am.

I'd hit the outside of that tire with some vulcanizing glue or pain ol' rubber cement. I'd patch the tire on the inside with a tube patch. Then I'd slap a new tube in it and ride it down to the cords. I'm not ashamed to admit I've ridden far worse looking tires all the way to end-of-life. I wouldn't mount it on the front, but I'd definitely wear that one out positioned on the rear.


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Fish the best of the old ones out of your trash can and run it until you can buy a new one.
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Originally Posted by avole View Post
Do not use that tyre. Contact the people you bought it from, they way well replace it free of charge, or contact Continental themselves.

Had some issues with Schwalbe Marathons, brand new once. The rear tyre blew out on first ride over Paris cobblestones - glass or something, never did find the reason. Rang the bike shop who replaced the offending tyre and gave me an extra just in case.
Why contact the seller? It is not the seller’s fault nor is it Continental’s fault. Looks like the OP hit something and suffered massive damage.

I would throw out the tire… But if you don’t have the money to replace it, you can try booting it.
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I have done that several times over the years. Boot the tire and ride it. When I have cuts of that size I put a double boot on it and run it on the front. Less weight on the wheel will put less stress on the booted portion of the tire. Had one go 3000 miles like that until the boot finally wore through!
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Old 02-13-19, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kedosto View Post
I'd hit the outside of that tire with some vulcanizing glue or pain ol' rubber cement. I'd patch the tire on the inside with a tube patch. Then I'd slap a new tube in it and ride it down to the cords. I'm not ashamed to admit I've ridden far worse looking tires all the way to end-of-life. I wouldn't mount it on the front, but I'd definitely wear that one out positioned on the rear.
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I have done that several times over the years. Boot the tire and ride it. When I have cuts of that size I put a double boot on it and run it on the front. Less weight on the wheel will put less stress on the booted portion of the tire. Had one go 3000 miles like that until the boot finally wore through!
Same-- only for me it's super glue on the outside, and Gorilla Tape on the inside. Super-gluing cuts on tires is a normal activity for me. So long as the hole isn't getting any bigger, ride it. My back tire has threads showing in a couple of spots. Still riding it. They're tires, not Faberge Eggs.

My last tire that got trashed early had a cut so big I could fit my pinky through it. What the OP has got is barely a flesh wound.
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Flat Fairy, wins !
Again !
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