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caloso 02-28-19 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by burnthesheep (Post 20816273)
Winner winner chicken dinner.

I'd say money buying speed is totally true in TT and triathlon. Particularly long course triathlon where marginal differences add up to minutes over some 5 to 8 hours on the bike.

In a peloton, no way. Not going to solo away due to a bike.

Even uphill, you realize the Allez guy just has to sit in behind the other guy for 2/3 of the hill then pip him on the last 1/3. Yeah, strong enough riders can draft uphill.

KOMs on some shorter 3min to 4min hills in the 4% grade range are probably approaching or over 20mph. You can suck wheel up a hill like that.

Also, in the flat, just try to get away alone from a big like-skilled group. You're either totally out riding their fitness, or you're blowing up in 5 minutes. I've tried, and failed.

Stop trolling.

It's obvious that the OP has never raced, but now I have to question whether he's even watched a race.

robnol 03-01-19 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 20816290)
It's obvious that the OP has never raced, but now I have to question whether he's even watched a race.

yes I have raced..its for the younger guys now...the first 10 miles and the last ten miles are actual racing the rest is just boring riding....

skyblue1 03-06-19 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 20801339)
Talent

Talented use of steroids...?

Doge 03-06-19 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by skyblue1 (Post 20825050)
Talented use of steroids...?

Optimizing the body through training and chemicals is tech to me. Knowing what tech to use is talent.
Not every cyclist, or team even deciding to break the rules had the ability to execute as well as US Postal did. Or they were much better which is why only USPS was "caught" (and Festina ans Astana).

Some tech is illegal, some is allowed.
Some drugs are allowed in some situations and not in others.

Some tech is not allowed in some countries, while allowed in others.
Sleeping in an O2 controlled tent is not allowed for Italian racing, but is allowed for UCI - it is tech.

mstateglfr 03-06-19 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 20799122)
THis is why I don't care to watch races. It's become a win at all cost mentality at all levels. Lets just ride and not care about winning or losing.

ha, i missed this one. Classic mtb right here. Love it!


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