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That's it. I'm moving to Amsterdam!

Old 02-18-19, 08:11 AM
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That's it. I'm moving to Amsterdam!

https://imgur.com/gallery/uJixr/comment/1587694509



^This!



This is how things should be.



This is the realistic, safe choice of mode of transportation we should all enjoy.



This is the respect which should be afforded to anyone who chooses to go by bike.



The rainbows and butterflies are just a bonus...
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Could you take me with you?
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Especially with the economy and political goings-on, the Netherlands has never looked so attractive.
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The bikeway around New York is impressive.
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I visited Amsterdam once...my memory of it is pretty vague...I visited Amsterdam once...
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I visited Amsterdam once...my memory of it is pretty vague...I visited Amsterdam once...
Good thing you didn't visit three times like I did. I cannot remember why that's a good thing. Which is why that's a good thing.
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Old 02-19-19, 06:12 AM
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The weed and hookers are just a bonus...
Get a good lock. Bike theft is rampant in the city. And if you ride elsewhere in the country I hope you like wind.
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Below sea level next to the ocean. What could go wrong?
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They could legalize magic mushrooms next.
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Below sea level next to the ocean. What could go wrong?
Unlike us, they're prepared to deal with it.
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Oulu Finland does great bike paths too, but alas, no weed or hookers. Reindeer steaks, and various forms of salted preserved fish though... and the world air guitar contest are there though, so not a total loss.

And they DO have saunas.
Air Guitar World Championships takes place on August 21-23rd already for the 24th time!

National Championships start during the spring and entry for the Dark Horses' Qualifications (August 22nd in Oulu) will be opened in summer. Stay tuned for more info.
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Ahh Finland. The depressed man's Netherlands. There was a great 60 Minutes piece on Finland many years back, but I'm sure most people who would be interested have already seen it.
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Originally Posted by chewybrian View Post
https://imgur.com/gallery/uJixr/comment/1587694509



^This!



This is how things should be.

This is the respect which should be afforded to anyone who chooses to go by bike.

The weed and hookers are just a bonus...
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If you get nearer to the weed and hookers it's more like this, with lots of tourists on rental bikes added who don't know the rules, the unwritten rules and often don't know how to ride either. Most 'coffeeshops' are for the tourists anyway, the Dutch smoke less pot than anybody else in the Western world. There's discussion about removing the window hookers too, it remains difficult to keep human traffickers from Eastern Europe out and it has become like a zoo due to overtourism. It used to be a nightlife area with lots of normal bars too, if you walked past the hookers on your way to the next bar you just wouldn't pay much attention and don't bother the girls as you're not interested in their services. With many tourists that decency isn't so obvious. When it comes to the dignity of the women and girls, it worse than it has been for 5 centuries. The whole area is suffering.

I think cycling in Amsterdam is fun, but it's not very cycling friendly, probably one the least cycling friendly places in the Netherlands. It's got a video game appeal to it because it's hectic but you can't just go anywhere as fast as you want like some shots of the infrastructure suggest.

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Unlike us, they're prepared to deal with it.
Yes, there is already climate change that is dealt with. But if sealevel rises more than a meter it can get very complicated. If a levee (outsmarted the censor there) is raised it gets much wider too, and the space is also needed for the water coming downhill from Switzerland, Germany and France. And a lot of the North Sea defence relies on the dunes, which are manipulated and managed but are still mostly natural.

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Originally Posted by Stadjer View Post
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Yes, there is already climate change that is dealt with. But if sealevel rises more than a meter it can get very complicated. If a levee (outsmarted the censor there) is raised it gets much wider too, and the space is also needed for the water coming downhill from Switzerland, Germany and France. And a lot of the North Sea defence relies on the dunes, which are manipulated and managed but are still mostly natural.
If the sea goes up a meter, it will obliterate dozens of cities. It won't take a lot more to obliterate Manhattan, which would badly damage the American economy.
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Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
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The OP has only just discovered this about Amsterdam?

Several things in my experience as someone who has been there on several occasions.

The bike path situation, while looking grand, can result in serious downgrading of level quality. And if you want to ride on the road with a bike path running parallel to it, be prepared for really aggressive driving skills and attitudes towards someone not wanted on roads. The density of bike usage is so bad in some parts that, as some of the pictures illustrate, it is almost impossible to get anywhere with any level of efficiency. And the bike parking becomes intimidating on footpaths for ordinary pedestrians.

On the whole, the visit to Amsterdam was not something I particularly enjoyed as a bike rider, compared with a few other Netherland places once out of there.
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It's like the local Critical Mass rides. But it's not bad.

Riding in those type of environment require a special type of bike: like the Dutch bikes. Something sit upright so you have situation awareness and can right real slow if need be...be able to stop and put foot down frequently...squeeze thru tight spots...be comfortable with riding shoulder-to-shoulder with other bicyclists and very close to cars. Just like the CM. LoL.

I have a small folding bike is perfect for it. It's got low center of gravity. Low seat height. Tall handlebar.

Yeah, it would be miserable riding a drop bar CF bike with 23c tires and clipless pedals. But it's about having the right tool for the job.

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They WILL enforce cycling speed limits.
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Originally Posted by mirfi View Post
The bikeway around New York is impressive.
The one on the west side of Manhattan along the Hudson River is lovely. It's now my favorite place to ride in NYC, and it was my commuting route in my two most recent jobs, so that was great. But it doesn't go around anything. The east side path is not complete, and it's in bad repair. There are long term plans to have a route that goes around the harbor, including the New Jersey site. That's good. And NY State wants to have a bike route from NYC to the Canadian border. We already have a bike route along the old Erie Canal, from Buffalo to Albany.
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Ah yes, the pasture is always greener on the other side of the fence...until you realize you're looking through green glasses. I've been to Amsterdam, have no desire to go back. Give me a ticket to Berlin any day!
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Get a good lock. Bike theft is rampant in the city.
I'm sure anyone who needs to lock their bike in the city will take the "beater".....
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My experience is when you have something really good...eventually it will be ruined by outside people finding out and moving in.
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Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
The OP has only just discovered this about Amsterdam?

Several things in my experience as someone who has been there on several occasions.

The bike path situation, while looking grand, can result in serious downgrading of level quality. And if you want to ride on the road with a bike path running parallel to it, be prepared for really aggressive driving skills and attitudes towards someone not wanted on roads. The density of bike usage is so bad in some parts that, as some of the pictures illustrate, it is almost impossible to get anywhere with any level of efficiency. And the bike parking becomes intimidating on footpaths for ordinary pedestrians.

On the whole, the visit to Amsterdam was not something I particularly enjoyed as a bike rider, compared with a few other Netherland places once out of there.
So 32 kpm may want to ride here is so sorry?
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No debate about helmets there.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict View Post
My experience is when you have something really good...eventually it will be ruined by outside people finding out and moving in.
Of course, there are a fair number of posters in this thread -- and serious cyclists, what's more -- who have little to no desire to go back there. As far as I can tell, none are drug users. which seems to play a significant role in the visitor attendance based on my most recent observations in the city.
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So 32 kpm may want to ride here is so sorry?
Maybe if you could find a decent way to express your English, we could understand exactly what you mean by kpm.

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