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Got screamed at by a driver at 5:00 AM

Old 03-27-19, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thumpism
I always smile and wave.
Originally Posted by jefnvk
+1. Confuses about half of them, infuriates the other half even more though, but makes me feel good about myself.

I'm not about to let someone else's crappy life ruin my day.
In this case, smile wave, and say to the guy, "I am so sorry you can't get laid ... Can I buy you a cup of coffee?"

Great motivation to ride quickly for the rest of your commute.
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Old 03-27-19, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KLiNCK
As long as you were running lights/reflectors, and were visible, I wouldn't worry about it.!
You might have a point. At 5AM here it's still dark as night this time of year.
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Old 03-27-19, 12:29 PM
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More seriously, I do agree with @jefnvk: I have trained myself to smile or laugh when people scream or shout from cars. I don't need the adrenaline, I don't need the angry thoughts, i on't need the self-doubt later about whether i did the right thing or deserved it .... and seriously, think of the state of mind of someone who would shout such stuff?

Usually if I make an error on the road, I know it, and otherwise, anyone who vents anger at me was angry at a bunch of other things and I just happened to be there. Smile and wave---it will either annoy the person (revenge!) or it will mystify the person, or maybe make the person stop and think (least likely but best possible outcome.) In any case, minimal karma for you, and minimal distraction from your real job, which is enjoying your ride.
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Old 03-27-19, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR
"Sticks and Stones."

I keep a small canister of pepper gel handy in a jersey pocket just in case it turns into more than words.
I'm guessing using pepper spray would be considered assault in many localities.

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Old 03-27-19, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MattTheHat
I'm guessing using pepper spray would be considered assault in many localities. -Matt
I assume anyone posting at BF would be level-headed enough only to use such a device in self-defense .... right?
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Old 03-27-19, 01:08 PM
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I've actually reacted to this scenario a few times when we got stopped at the same light afterwards by acting like such an angry lunatic that they clearly became scared of me, all without uttering anything that could be interpreted as a threat. I know it wasn't smart, but it was both fun and somehow satisfying. I suspect about 90% of these people would really be shocked by having a cyclist actually stand up to them. Unfortunately, some of the other ones probably wouldn't mind actually using their car as a weapon.

What can I say, sometimes I get cranky on a long ride. At least some of these people might think twice before they try it again.
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Old 03-27-19, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I assume anyone posting at BF would be level-headed enough only to use such a device in self-defense .... right?
One would hope. Proving that you acted in self defense is another matter all together.

As others have stated, doing anything other than ignoring the crazy driver is likely going to escalate the problem.

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Old 03-27-19, 02:11 PM
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Screamed At is less injurious than 'Creamed By'...
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Old 03-27-19, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jskash
I was stopped at a light at 5:00 AM this morning on a very well lit street when a driver rolled down his window to inform me that I was a "f...ing" moron for riding my bike in the street. Mind you, I was standing in the bike lane. He shouted that I should be riding on the sidewalk. As he drove away he yelled something about understanding hit and run drivers. A bit unsettling. Hopefully our paths don't cross again.

And in even more from the unusual news department - Dog bites man.
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Old 03-27-19, 02:24 PM
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Yeah, if they're shouting as they fly by, I just smile and wave. If they're stopped and expecting a response, I tell them that if they have a problem with the way I'm riding, they should report me to the police. Nothing I tell them about the law will matter because I'm just some goof on a bike; but if the police chew them out it might sink in.
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Old 03-27-19, 02:32 PM
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In situations such as these, I like to ask myself, "What would Judge Dredd do?"
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Old 03-27-19, 02:33 PM
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Oh good the BF lawyers have chimed in
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Old 03-27-19, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jskash
I was stopped at a light at 5:00 AM this morning on a very well lit street when a driver rolled down his window to inform me that I was a "f...ing" moron for riding my bike in the street. Mind you, I was standing in the bike lane. He shouted that I should be riding on the sidewalk. As he drove away he yelled something about understanding hit and run drivers. A bit unsettling. Hopefully our paths don't cross again.
Well obviously you were riding on his streets.
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Old 03-27-19, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I assume anyone posting at BF would be level-headed enough only to use such a device in self-defense .... right?
Last resort of course. In Cally one is required to escape the situation if one can. However, if assault is imminent, I am justified to protect myself in public. Pepper gel really is a good deterrent and is less violent than fisticuffs.

Avoidance is the first choice but occasionally that is not enough.
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I'm in the "smile and wave" camp. If I want to get under their skin I'll point at them and laugh. There's something infuriating about being laughed at I suppose. It sure send people into a hissy fit, I know that. If I'm in the mood I'll shout out a compliant "OK!" as if I'm actually gonna get up on the sidewalk. I never do, of course. I don't ever challenge or argue with anyone. There's too much crazy in the world for that.


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Old 03-27-19, 03:59 PM
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Been there done that. Then I would take out my badge and ID, instruct the driver to pull to the side of the road in front of me, check his license and registration, and if they were okay, give him a lecture on traffic law. The more in a hurry he appeared to be, the longer I would take. There is nothing like seeing the look of anger and outrage on a driver's turn to total fear, and angry curses turn into almost tearful apologies.
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Safer to ignore them (while making sure that they don’t do anything sketchy).

Someone who is already that angry at 5:00 a.m., could be easily triggered by the rider’s reaction.

Just move on and let the idiot go on his not so merry way.
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Originally Posted by ksryder
Oh good the BF lawyers have chimed in
They may not be real lawyers, but they have watched enough Law and Order episodes to “know” the law.
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Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
Excellent article.
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No matter how justified, ultimately it’s never satisfying to fly into a rage; if anything, you just wind up feeling guilty and ashamed, like when you wake up on the couch covered in Cheetos after a Netflix binge.
I'm just glad the author didn't mention the other part.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
I'm just glad the author didn't mention the other part.
Lol!
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Originally Posted by 50PlusCycling
...The more in a hurry he appeared to be, the longer I would take.
Love it!


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Originally Posted by jskash
I was stopped at a light at 5:00 AM this morning on a very well lit street when a driver rolled down his window to inform me that I was a "f...ing" moron for riding my bike in the street. Mind you, I was standing in the bike lane. He shouted that I should be riding on the sidewalk. As he drove away he yelled something about understanding hit and run drivers. A bit unsettling. Hopefully our paths don't cross again.
that's why you need to carry around a 1 inch ball bearing taped to the bars so the next time just rip that thing off the bar and hurl it at the car. Remember, you're on a bike, you can get away easily.
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Old 03-28-19, 08:23 PM
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I used to carry one when in uniform so that when someone asked, "Where's your military bearing?" I could display it.
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